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Online catfish1957

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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #425 on: August 20, 2022, 01:39:01 pm »
For those interested, most gen. dbase services have the 1950 census up, and indexed.
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« Reply #426 on: August 30, 2022, 12:04:30 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on June 03, 2016, 10:32:21 am
Have used FTDNA and Ancestry's dna tests with great results.  I think FTDNA is more competent in the field, but Ancestry's tools for matches beat FTDNA hands down.  Have you taken the plunge at FTDNA with Big Y yet?  Been a bust here so far.  My drilled down to a finite haplogroup that has about only 3 other members, and none have my surname.  :(

Just signed up to upgrade my Y 67 to Big Y today after learning that the man I had listed as my 6th GG grandfather was in the wrong haplogroup and thus could not possibly be the father of my 5th GG grandfather.  Don't expect much immediately but Y DNA research is rapidly expanding databases. @catfish1957
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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #427 on: August 30, 2022, 12:46:36 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on August 30, 2022, 12:04:30 pm
Just signed up to upgrade my Y 67 to Big Y today after learning that the man I had listed as my 6th GG grandfather was in the wrong haplogroup and thus could not possibly be the father of my 5th GG grandfather.  Don't expect much immediately but Y DNA research is rapidly expanding databases. @catfish1957

Same problem here at my 5-GGF level.  Different  Haplogroup in my surname who arrived in VA in about 1700 from Scotland.  OTOH, there are 9 of a match of a different surname.  So there was some form or fashion of a paternal mishap in my paternal line between 1700-1770.  Another Scottish surname instead. 
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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #428 on: August 30, 2022, 01:03:07 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on August 30, 2022, 12:46:36 pm
Same problem here at my 5-GGF level.  Different  Haplogroup in my surname who arrived in VA in about 1700 from Scotland.  OTOH, there are 9 of a match of a different surname.  So there was some form or fashion of a paternal mishap in my paternal line between 1700-1770.  Another Scottish surname instead.

Human nature being what it is, I'm sure that "woodpile" events didn't just start recently.  I'm sure they are more common than once imagined and DNA is uncovering them.

My wife and I have been married for 54 years. Until about 4 years ago we had no reason to suspect that the man listed on her birth certificate as her father was not her biological father, but it turns out he isn't. The man who IS her biological father is long since departed and never knew she existed. All this revealed because of DNA results.
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #429 on: August 30, 2022, 01:05:14 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on August 30, 2022, 01:03:07 pm
Human nature being what it is, I'm sure that "woodpile" events didn't just start recently.  I'm sure they are more common than once imagined and DNA is uncovering them.

My wife and I have been married for 54 years. Until about 4 years ago we had no reason to suspect that the man listed on her birth certificate as her father was not her biological father, but it turns out he isn't. The man who IS her biological father is long since departed and never knew she existed. All this revealed because of DNA results.


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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #430 on: August 30, 2022, 09:56:55 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on August 30, 2022, 01:03:07 pm
Human nature being what it is, I'm sure that "woodpile" events didn't just start recently.  I'm sure they are more common than once imagined and DNA is uncovering them.
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My wife and I have been married for 54 years. Until about 4 years ago we had no reason to suspect that the man listed on her birth certificate as her father was not her biological father, but it turns out he isn't.

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Well,yeah,he was. In FACT,he was the only father she knew. The other man was just a sperm donor.

BTW,do NOT belittle the term "sperm donor". Who knows how many families would have never existed if it hadn't been for their secret "interventions"?

The woman and the man had a child and a family to raise.

While I am sure that some of these donors were local neighbors,I SUSPECT that more than a few of them were the traveling salesmen that took their wagons to remote locations to sell their goods.

While there,alone with the wife because the man was out working the fields or hunting for game,the salesman happened to make an anonymous "donation" that created a family.

And let's face it,frontier families would have never survived without the help of children.


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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #431 on: May 07, 2023, 07:57:54 am »
Those guys from SP have become legends....    :silly:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5M7A5j5W7U
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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #432 on: April 26, 2025, 01:51:23 pm »
I've been planning a little vacation for later this year that would take in a Civil War site or two in eastern WV and western VA where my ancestors fought. All this time, I've been thinking all the Civil War participants in my family tree had served the confederacy, as they all were from what is now southern W.Va.

Imagine my surprise to learn that there were Union loyalists in parts of southern WV, and it's possible one of the great-great-grandfathers served with and possibly commanded a W.Va. militia unit alongside US forces. His daughter married the son of a CSA veteran, as it turns out. West Virginians apparently don't hold grudges!
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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #433 on: April 26, 2025, 03:14:00 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on April 26, 2025, 01:51:23 pm
I've been planning a little vacation for later this year that would take in a Civil War site or two in eastern WV and western VA where my ancestors fought. All this time, I've been thinking all the Civil War participants in my family tree had served the confederacy, as they all were from what is now southern W.Va.

Imagine my surprise to learn that there were Union loyalists in parts of southern WV, and it's possible one of the great-great-grandfathers served with and possibly commanded a W.Va. militia unit alongside US forces. His daughter married the son of a CSA veteran, as it turns out. West Virginians apparently don't hold grudges!

The 3rd West Virginia (Loyal) Infantry and Cavalry Regiments were actually recruited in modern day West Virginia.  There were indeed lots of loyalists in those mountains!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_West_Virginia_Infantry_Regiment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_West_Virginia_Cavalry_Regiment

Also the 1st and 7th WV Cavalry Regiments...

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/articles/1st_West_Virginia_Volunteer_Cavalry_Regiment

https://7wvcavalry.com/history/





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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #434 on: April 26, 2025, 04:34:59 pm »
The entire state of WV was unconstitutionally stolen from the state of Virginia to begin with.
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: Genealogy - Getting to Know your Heritage
« Reply #435 on: April 26, 2025, 06:58:08 pm »
The northwestern part of WV in which we live was most definitely Union territory, but my great-great-grandfathers and one great-great-great-grandfather, who lived farther south, joined the CSA (Va. 22nd Infantry, Va. 17th Cavalry, etc.).

Just recently I've found that one great-great-grandfather who was from the Charleston area, like the others, apparently signed a loyalty oath to the USA and was a captain with a Union militia in Kanawha County. Would like to find more info on him and the militia. I just love learning new things.
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