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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2016, 03:17:42 pm »
First, regardless of the validity of your points, Trump has got to show more awareness of the words he uses.  "Worker's party" has distinct historical connotations, and is a terrible choice of words.  "Middle-class" has traditionally been the way the concept is expressed by conservatives because it doesn't put undue emphasis on labor as the most important component of production.

Second, one of the biggest reasons for the lack of wage increase is that other governmental actions have raised the non-wage costs of labor.  Everything from the Americans with Disabilities Act, to the FMLA, to discrimination lawsuits, to a host of regulations from the Department of Labor, etc.., have made the per hour cost of labor go up even if wages themselves are stagnant.  If you want wages to go up, get rid of (or at least dramatically reduce) all those non-wage labor costs.  That's what Trump should be talking about, but he's not.

Well Trump is the ONLY one running to have promised to gut the regulation systems (he has reason to hate them) and hes already shown willingness to listen to and act on the recommendations of reputable conservative think tanks.

I suspect he choose those words to keep his name in the media and it will end up being the fact of the stagnant wages for 18 years that people will carry forward.
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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2016, 03:23:13 pm »
IMO He knows. He  k n o w s  exactly what he is saying!

No he does not. But Crazy Bernie sure does. And he will school him if they debate.

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« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2016, 03:29:08 pm »
How the hell does someone get to 70 years old and NOT know the history and connotations of the phrase Workers Party?

Apparently the same way that one gets to be 70 year old without knowing the history and connotations of "America First".
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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2016, 03:34:59 pm »
So Trump has a pair of five year plans.  First five years, JimRob conducts the purges and the prisoners are sent to the desert to build the wall.  Let us call it the JimRob Archipelago.  Second five years, men work at the requisitioned Ford plants while the women labor at the collective strip joints.

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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2016, 03:44:03 pm »
I don't think this deserves a thread of its own, so I'm posting it here.  I think? I finally found an example of what makes me uncomfortable about Trump.  Last night on Jimmy Kimmel, Kimmel asked Trump if he would debate Sanders.  Trump's reply (probably shredding in the paraphrasing) was that sure he would do it "IF THEY PAY ME.  Then I'll donate the money to charity."  He made several comments on different topics like that.  If they pay me or if they give the money to charity.  He also said that he's only going to pay himself $1 a year as President.

While this may sound all nicey in general to most people, it begs the question of will we, as the people, have to pay him or a charity to get him to speak or act?  I don't know, it just doesn't sit well with me.  If he really wanted to be charitable, how about not taking the money in the first place? 

His comments on money which are made on just about every topic just make me very uneasy.

(the Workers Party comment prompted a connection in my mind with his charitable giving with other peoples' money)
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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2016, 03:53:03 pm »
Hey, MAF!  Good to see you!

Trump is a money-grubber.  He's always talking about taking money and donating to charity because he runs the money through his "Foundation" where he takes his vig off the top and charges interest until he decides where to send it, if he ever does.

In other words, Trump is no philanthropist.  He's always got a self-serving angle to everything he does.  Just witness his Veteran's fundraiser in January.  Half the money is still not distributed, he only made his contribution this past Monday under duress from the press and he didn't collect $6 million; only $4.5 million.   There's no telling what his "fees" were to "manage" this money and half of it is still sitting in his "Foundation."
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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2016, 03:58:20 pm »
@sinkspur, it's really nice to see you too!

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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2016, 03:59:02 pm »
I don't think this deserves a thread of its own, so I'm posting it here.  I think? I finally found an example of what makes me uncomfortable about Trump.  Last night on Jimmy Kimmel, Kimmel asked Trump if he would debate Sanders.  Trump's reply (probably shredding in the paraphrasing) was that sure he would do it "IF THEY PAY ME.  Then I'll donate the money to charity."  He made several comments on different topics like that.  If they pay me or if they give the money to charity.  He also said that he's only going to pay himself $1 a year as President.

While this may sound all nicey in general to most people, it begs the question of will we, as the people, have to pay him or a charity to get him to speak or act?  I don't know, it just doesn't sit well with me.

My reaction to that is also a bit negative, but for a different reason.  To me, it demonstrates that he still thinks of himself primarily as an individual actor rather than as a leader.  Leaders talk about other people engaging in charitable or other good acts.  They try to inspire others to act correctly, to organize and lead groups of their own, etc..  Trump's sights just seem set so much lower, focusing just on what he does personally, and blowing his own horn about it to boot.   It's kind of the charitable version of everything always being about him.

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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #33 on: May 26, 2016, 03:59:38 pm »
Sorry I happen to believe in the Free Market which is Conservative value. We don't need more Government control

I agree 100% However we don't have Free Trade with any country we deal with. The USA is the patsy on every trade agreement and the American people are finally wising up.

These anti US worker free trade pacts were a conglomeration of Big Corp and gov't cronies.

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« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2016, 04:00:44 pm »
And in other news today, presidential candidate Donald Trump announced that Bernie Sanders is his choice as running mate of the Glorious Workers Party!!!!!!!
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« Reply #35 on: May 26, 2016, 04:02:25 pm »
And in other news today, presidential candidate Donald Trump announced that Bernie Sanders is his choice as running mate of the Glorious Workers Party!!!!!!!

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Frankly, it wouldn't shock me.

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« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2016, 04:04:04 pm »
My reaction to that is also a bit negative, but for a different reason.  To me, it demonstrates that he still thinks of himself primarily as an individual actor rather than as a leader.  Leaders talk about other people engaging in charitable or other good acts.  They try to inspire others to act correctly, to organize and lead groups of their own, etc..  Trump's sights just seem set so much lower, focusing just on what he does personally, and blowing his own horn about it to boot.   It's kind of the charitable version of everything always being about him.

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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2016, 04:05:00 pm »
I don't think this deserves a thread of its own, so I'm posting it here.  I think? I finally found an example of what makes me uncomfortable about Trump.  Last night on Jimmy Kimmel, Kimmel asked Trump if he would debate Sanders.  Trump's reply (probably shredding in the paraphrasing) was that sure he would do it "IF THEY PAY ME.  Then I'll donate the money to charity."  He made several comments on different topics like that.  If they pay me or if they give the money to charity.  He also said that he's only going to pay himself $1 a year as President.

While this may sound all nicey in general to most people, it begs the question of will we, as the people, have to pay him or a charity to get him to speak or act?  I don't know, it just doesn't sit well with me.  If he really wanted to be charitable, how about not taking the money in the first place? 

His comments on money which are made on just about every topic just make me very uneasy.

(the Workers Party comment prompted a connection in my mind with his charitable giving with other peoples' money)

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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2016, 04:07:19 pm »
Oops!  Didn't take me long to make a mess here, huh?  I'll repost on your thread.

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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2016, 04:32:48 pm »
Oops!  Didn't take me long to make a mess here, huh?  I'll repost on your thread.

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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2016, 04:38:23 pm »
@Repub4Trump Hey lady, nice to see you!  Hangin in here.

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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2016, 04:40:35 pm »
So Trump has a pair of five year plans.  First five years, JimRob conducts the purges and the prisoners are sent to the desert to build the wall.  Let us call it the JimRob Archipelago.  Second five years, men work at the requisitioned Ford plants while the women labor at the collective strip joints.

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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2016, 04:47:09 pm »
Great, just freakin' great. Not only using leftist talking points, but calling it a Communist "worker's" party,

And the Trump Faithful have the nerve to ridicule us because we state that we see absolutely no core difference between Hillary Clinton or Trump.

This is just more proof our principled discernment is right on the money.
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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2016, 05:02:25 pm »
That is something Socialist would say.

His supporters think he just "misspoke", but he didn't

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« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2016, 05:07:07 pm »
It's not Bolshevism because that had an internationalist base.  It's nationalistic and socialistic, and I will leave it at that; those with brains to think and eyes to see will understand.

So it'll be a National Socialist American Workers Party?  Now why does that sound familiar? 

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« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2016, 05:08:28 pm »
Apparently #neverTrump prefers a parasite and Super rich party with no Middle class workers...

Never Trump doesn't have a coherent ideology except to elect Hillary.

Trump does appeal to middle class workers and that is wonderful.  McCain and Romney lost in large part because they appeared to favor wealthy, country club Republicans who are out of touch with middle class America.     

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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2016, 05:08:58 pm »
Trump aint losing in the rust belt, Its Bloomberg lying. But then that was known.

What would a Trumpster know about lying?

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Re: Trump: GOP Will Become 'Workers Party' 5 Years From Now
« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2016, 05:10:56 pm »
Apparently #neverTrump prefers a parasite and Super rich party with no Middle class workers...

Apparently Trumpsters have no concept of smaller, less intrusive government or deregulation or cutting spending and reining in entitlements.  Not at all surprising since you aren't conservative to begin with.

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« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2016, 05:12:09 pm »
So it'll be a National Socialist American Workers Party?  Now why does that sound familiar?

They already goosestep, I wonder when the orange swastika's come out...