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Offline Right_in_Virginia

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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #225 on: May 14, 2016, 06:00:04 pm »
Quote from: montanajoe on May 14, 2016, 05:25:02 pm
Sink don't worry about it, some folks seem to be suffering an extreme case of preTrumpsal derangement syndrome (PTDS) need to regard them with extreme caution during the election season...

And we do.   :laugh:





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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #226 on: May 14, 2016, 06:05:58 pm »
Quote from: Bruce Campbells Chin on May 13, 2016, 01:26:15 pm
I'm not fan of Trump, but....

Saying that Trump won't appoint conservative justices isn't accurate.

Speaking at the construction site for his new hotel in Washington, D.C., Monday, Trump said he will make a list public in the next week of 10 conservative judges that he would consider nominating to the Supreme Court. If elected, Trump said, he would only pick from that list, which is being made in consultation with the conservative Heritage Foundation...

Now, nobody can guarantee that Trump will pick someone like that, but nobody also can guarantee -- as you did -- that there's no way Trump would pick a conservative.  I suppose it might be accurate to say that he won't pick "another Scalia" because Scalia was a once in a century conservative legal thinker, and their isn't "another Scalia" out there.  But certainly, based on what he's said, the odds of him picking a good judicial conservative are infinitely higher than that of Hillary doing so.

You're cherry-picking.  He criticized one particular decision.  He was wrong to do so, but that's the kind of mistake a lot of lay people make on issues like that one.  And he's made other, very positive statements about Scalia.

I appreciate the correction, however I will remain skeptical because what Trump says, and what he will actually do in terms of picking a Conservative is a complete unknown.  Then there's McConnell's Senate, whom I am also convinced will never confirm a Conservative and will side with the Democrats.   I'm not hopeful Trump will appoint actual Originalist Justices given his admission that all of his statements are just 'suggestions' as he walks back several key positions that rocketed him to popularity.

I expect the worst, and welcome being surprised - but I have no hope or expectation that will be the case with Trump.

The most damning trait is his penchant to publicly humiliate and turn mobs of people against whomever he chooses.  That is beyond dangerous.

The Mao Pantsuit does it too, but Trump beats the entire Leftist Spectrum with his natural ability to incite a mob to rage and action.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #227 on: May 14, 2016, 06:06:02 pm »
Quote from: sinkspur on May 14, 2016, 05:58:36 pm
Sure. But you don't get to say who is part of TBR.  If you can be here, supporting Trump, we ought to throw open the doors to just about anybody.

Of course not.  But I do get to understand why folks are here.  There's certainly no harm in that. 
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #228 on: May 14, 2016, 06:06:54 pm »
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It's a forum of conservatives.  Since you support Trump, you ought to be wondering where you fit.

Come on now....you know good and well RIV is a conservative....just because she chose Trump doesn't make her any less one...it is simply her choice.

And for the zillionth time TBR is open to ALL the factions of the Repub Party....and several 3rd Partys
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #229 on: May 14, 2016, 06:10:10 pm »
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #230 on: May 14, 2016, 06:11:23 pm »
Quote from: sinkspur on May 14, 2016, 05:39:39 pm
It's not a pro-Hillary forum.  It's not a pro-Trump forum.

It's a forum of conservatives.  Since you support Trump, you ought to be wondering where you fit.

Since no conservative could support Hillary Clinton, RIV is clearly correct about the troll. Its simple...and as this is a GOP site, why would anyone defend having a Hillary supporter here trolling?
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #231 on: May 14, 2016, 06:13:09 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on May 14, 2016, 06:06:54 pm
Come on now....you know good and well RIV is a conservative....just because she chose Trump doesn't make her any less one...it is simply her choice.

And for the zillionth time TBR is open to ALL the factions of the Repub Party....and several 3rd Partys

My response was to RIV's questioning of another posters bona fides.  Besides, Trump has said, this week, that he's not a conservative.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #232 on: May 14, 2016, 06:15:39 pm »
Quote from: Mesaclone on May 14, 2016, 06:11:23 pm
Since no conservative could support Hillary Clinton, RIV is clearly correct about the troll. Its simple...and as this is a GOP site, why would anyone defend having a Hillary supporter here trolling?

He's not a troll.  He's been here almost as long as you have. 

This is NOT a GOP site.  And, even if it were, some GOP members have said they'll vote for Hillary.

I would invite Mystery-ak to correct your misunderstanding.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #233 on: May 14, 2016, 06:24:07 pm »
It is not a GOP site..we have nothing to do with the GOP.

TBR was founded under Reagan's Big Tent policy...all opinions [except liberal] are welcome here.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #234 on: May 14, 2016, 06:27:20 pm »
Quote from: INVAR on May 14, 2016, 06:10:10 pm


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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #235 on: May 14, 2016, 06:40:55 pm »
Quote from: Mesaclone on May 14, 2016, 06:11:23 pm
Since no conservative could support Hillary Clinton, RIV is clearly correct about the troll. Its simple...and as this is a GOP site, why would anyone defend having a Hillary supporter here trolling?

One is not a "Hillary supporter" merely because one opposes Trump.    If you care to have a dialogue about why a conservative would in good conscience oppose Trump, then let's have at it.  But this slander that we're trolls and Hillary "supporters" is dishonest propaganda and, yeah, that's a quality shared by your Dear Leader.       
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #236 on: May 14, 2016, 06:47:14 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on May 14, 2016, 06:24:07 pm
It is not a GOP site..we have nothing to do with the GOP.

TBR was founded under Reagan's Big Tent policy...all opinions [except liberal] are welcome here.

Ahhhh…good.  That settles that.

I'm taking my shoes off and hanging the hat up on the rack.  I see the fridge is stocked up pretty good and we have all kinds of folks over for a party.

You know you are in a good place when you can say "Let's talk about the rule of law" and everyone can chime in a positive Constitutional and Founder-oriented viewpoint on that subject.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #237 on: May 14, 2016, 06:52:56 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on May 14, 2016, 06:24:07 pm
It is not a GOP site..we have nothing to do with the GOP.

TBR was founded under Reagan's Big Tent policy...all opinions [except liberal] are welcome here.

Supporting Hillary IS a liberal opinion...so...and no real conservative could ever vote for her over any GOP nominee...so I'll be glad to go with the "its a conservative" sight phrase rather than a GOP one.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #238 on: May 14, 2016, 07:04:45 pm »
Quote from: Mesaclone on May 14, 2016, 06:52:56 pm
Supporting Hillary IS a liberal opinion...so...and no real conservative could ever vote for her over any GOP nominee...so I'll be glad to go with the "its a conservative" sight phrase rather than a GOP one.

No one here supports Hilary...but I am gonna let you say that without repercussions as this site does not ban for stating your opinion unlike others.

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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #239 on: May 14, 2016, 07:09:30 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on May 14, 2016, 07:04:45 pm
No one here supports Hilary...but I am gonna let you say that without repercussions as this site does not ban for stating your opinion unlike others.

In FACT there are people here now, that repeatedly say they will vote for Hillary.

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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #240 on: May 14, 2016, 07:09:56 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on May 14, 2016, 07:04:45 pm
No one here supports Hilary...but I am gonna let you say that without repercussions as this site does not ban for stating your opinion unlike others.

At least do a Sister Mary Stigmata on him like back when we were in school.  I know you have a ruler?
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #241 on: May 14, 2016, 07:13:19 pm »
Quote from: Mesaclone on May 14, 2016, 06:52:56 pm
Supporting Hillary IS a liberal opinion...so...and no real conservative could ever vote for her over any GOP nominee...so I'll be glad to go with the "its a conservative" sight phrase rather than a GOP one.

Trump supports Planned Parenthood, tax increases, is anti-free trade, for hamstringing the media through restricting 1st Amendment rights, and  believes George W. Bush lied us into the  Iraq War.   These are all liberal positions.  Why should supporting Trump not also be a liberal opinion?
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #242 on: May 14, 2016, 07:13:51 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on May 14, 2016, 06:24:07 pm
It is not a GOP site..we have nothing to do with the GOP.

TBR was founded under Reagan's Big Tent policy...all opinions [except liberal] are welcome here.


 **nononono*
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #243 on: May 14, 2016, 07:16:57 pm »
Quote from: sinkspur on May 14, 2016, 07:13:19 pm
Trump supports Planned Parenthood, tax increases, is anti-free trade, for hamstringing the media through restricting 1st Amendment rights, and  believes George W. Bush lied us into the  Iraq War.   These are all liberal positions.  Why should supporting Trump not also be a liberal opinion?


True that  :beer:
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #244 on: May 14, 2016, 07:20:18 pm »
Quote from: sinkspur on May 14, 2016, 02:36:46 pm



I could never vote for a man like this.

NSS! Post something we haven't seen repeatedly.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #245 on: May 14, 2016, 07:21:05 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 14, 2016, 07:13:51 pm

 **nononono*

I hear there are a few slots open over at TOS.
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #246 on: May 14, 2016, 07:23:32 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on May 14, 2016, 07:09:56 pm
At least do a Sister Mary Stigmata on him like back when we were in school.  I know you have a ruler?
Make him fear the Penguin!

The nuns in my school used pointers.....only the nun in typing class used a ruler.....ouch!
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Re: Okay, #NeverTrump, Enough Already
« Reply #247 on: May 14, 2016, 07:23:57 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on May 14, 2016, 07:21:05 pm
I hear there are a few slots open over at TOS.

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« Reply #248 on: May 14, 2016, 07:27:21 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on May 14, 2016, 07:23:32 pm
The nuns in my school used pointers.....only the nun in typing class used a ruler.....ouch!

Oh yeah.  Forgot about those.  Repressed memory on the pointers.

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« Reply #249 on: May 14, 2016, 07:30:13 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on May 14, 2016, 06:40:55 pm
One is not a "Hillary supporter" merely because one opposes Trump.    If you care to have a dialogue about why a conservative would in good conscience oppose Trump, then let's have at it.  But this slander that we're trolls and Hillary "supporters" is dishonest propaganda and, yeah, that's a quality shared by your Dear Leader.     

Not supporting Trump and claiming you'll vote for Hillary certainly calls into question  your party affiliation, your common sense and patriotism.
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