‘I’m One of You’: Donald Trump Vows to Protect Christians, Religious Liberty

[the_doc]

There are Calvinists in the SB church, but there are probably more Arminians.  It is a denomination that does not take a hard stand on that.

I agree completely  with you, my friend.  I was just pointing out that the 19th Century Southern Baptists' founders were dominated by Calvinists--like me, I have to admit!
 
(The only reason why I brought up the Calvinism issue is because Mechanicos seems to be decidedly anti-Calvinistic and also seems to think of himself as knowledgeable in Church history.  I was teasing him [and LOL].) 
 

[Mechanicos]

Nonetheless, it is established in US history, and enacted by US government.

'Christian' Holidays are Biblical, or enacted by a faith (Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox, etc...), and transcend national borders.

No one celebrates Thanksgiving day except US citizens.

Oh really? The Bible nowhere instructs Christians to celebrate holidays such as Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, Valentines Day, Memorial Day, Labor Day, Independence Day, birthdays, anniversaries, etc. The Bible mentions several “celebrations” that the Israelites observed: Passover, Pentecost, Purim, New Moon, etc. The difference between these holidays and the holidays celebrated today is that some of our modern Christian holidays have pagan or even anti-Christian origins. Christmas and Easter began as attempts to redefine a pagan holiday with a Christian meaning, i.e., the Easter bunny, the Christmas tree, giving gifts, hunting for eggs, etc.

[the_doc]

A lover of abortion, Planned Parenthood, men in the girls bathroom, supporter of transexuals and the homo agenda.... says he is one of us!

Probably having another porn convention at the Taj Mahal soon....

gotta marry another lesbian porn star...

gotta out-pervert Howard Stone again....

"One of us...."

 

Great post!

[musiclady]

Nope, Just trying to unclog the mud a ton of organized disinformation has lodged in otherwise smart people's heads.

This is a very poor choice of topics to try to dislodge supposed "disinformation" about Donald.

He has made it very clear in his own words (i.e. real information) that he is clueless about the Christian faith and just pretending to be "one of us."

You should really pick something more believable if you want to convince anyone that your guy isn't a pathological liar.

[Mod2]

This article is truly fascinating.

Funnily enough, it was also heavily commented on here 8 months ago - when it was first published.

Don't post old shit as new.

[Neverdul]

“I want Christmas re-used,” Trump said of the campaign waged to remove the word “Christmas” from society in order to be more politically correct.

“Every year it gets worse and worse,” he said. “We have nobody fighting for us. I’m one of you — just remember that.”



Can you say hypocrite?

[geronl]

Can you say hypocrite?

 

[libertybele]

Trump is an out an out LIAR and a FRAUD!

[IsailedawayfromFR]

‘I’m One of You’: Donald Trump Vows to Protect Christians, Religious Liberty


GOP frontrunner Donald Trump appeared at the Iowa Faith and Family Coalition with his personal Bible in hand, a gift from his mother where she made special written notes to him, and a photo of his confirmation. He then went on to respond to the backlash from the media after he brushed off a supporter at a town hall who claimed President Obama was a Muslim.

He was one of several candidates to speak at the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition on Saturday in Des Moines, Iowa.

“I was in big trouble all over the place… Every newscast — it was the biggest story,” Trump said. “Only time I’ll ever beat out the Pope,” he joked, about having more news coverage than the Pope had on his upcoming visit to America.

Trump went on to reference his tweets from earlier in the day where he said this is the first time he has ever caused controversy by “NOT” saying anything. He tweeted more about defending religious liberty and the First Amendment, which Breitbart News previously noted.

“I’m Presbyterian, can you believe it?”

The crowd chuckled.

“I will protect… because we’re not being protected,” Trump said, referencing Christians and religious liberty.

He said his first priority if elected President of the United States would be to “preserve and protect our religious liberty.”

“We’ll be fighting as part [of a] common core, and we’re going to protect totally the First Amendment,” he vowed.

Trump was asked if he prefers executive orders or treaties when dealing with foreign relations, as well as his thoughts on the Iran deal.

He said a treaty would be his preference because it is a “much stronger agreement” because it goes through Congress and has to be approved.

“We will protect Israel,” he vowed, saying he would fix the deal with Iran. “That deal will become much much better.”

Of the other GOP presidential candidates who have said they would rip up the Iran deal, Trump said, “They don’t understand the way it works.”

“Israel is going to be safe. We’re going to be safe,” he vowed, saying Iran will never get nukes, “That I will tell you.”

He was also questioned about his thoughts on the Second Amendment.

“We need it for security; we need it for safety,” he answered, saying he would defend the Second Amendment.

He did address mental health problems, and said he would “do a lot to fund that, because we’ve got to get these people back in the hospital.”

He criticized taking guns away from the military, and referenced the shooting in Tennessee where military members were shot and killed in a gun free zone.

“If they had the guns, that wouldn’t have happened,” Trump said. “We will keep that Second Amendment.”

He also said he supports the new process regarding ethanol, because “there’s no reason not to. We need it. We need everything we can get. Ethanol is terrific.”

He was again questioned about religious liberty and what he can do to help protect Christians from having to violate their religious beliefs due to government regulations and laws.

“I feel so strongly in fact, it was mentioned in my second paragraph,” he said, referencing his speech. “Religious liberty is so important.”

“I’m a good fighter,” he vowed, “I win a lot,” suggesting he would win the war against Christianity.

“I want Christmas re-used,” Trump said of the campaign waged to remove the word “Christmas” from society in order to be more politically correct.

“Every year it gets worse and worse,” he said. “We have nobody fighting for us. I’m one of you — just remember that.”

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/09/19/im-one-donald-trump-vows-protect-christians-religious-liberty/

I look at deeds, not words.

Anyone know a circumstance that happened on this where we can actually trust him?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Trump is a Presbyterian aka a Calvinist not an evangelical.

That has nothing to do with what he said.  A Christian knows what it means.  If he is a Presbyterian, then he is in name only(PINO).

[the_doc]

This is a very poor choice of topics to try to dislodge supposed "disinformation" about Donald.

He has made it very clear in his own words (i.e. real information) that he is clueless about the Christian faith and just pretending to be "one of us."

You should really pick something more believable if you want to convince anyone that your guy isn't a pathological liar.

Ditto that.

[The Jackal]

I don't think I've ever seen a more blatant attempt to propagandize people than to try and assert Trump's bona fides as a culture warrior. On every cultural issue he's either been MIA or taken the liberal position. I'm guessing the, "Trump is the realistic, pragmatic candidate" argument isn't working like some hoped it would. But don't worry, he promised that we'll say Merry Christmas in this country again.

[Mechanicos]

Nowhere did I say he was a Good Christian. Nor was that the Issue. The issue was his promise to protect Religious liberty of Christians. That his conservative Judge picks and and his moving control of education local are the most likely things a President can do to reverse the direction of our Culture from the hell path its on.

[roamer_1]

Oh really? The Bible nowhere instructs Christians to celebrate holidays such as Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving, Valentines Day, Memorial Day, Labor Day, Independence Day, birthdays, anniversaries, etc. The Bible mentions several “celebrations” that the Israelites observed: Passover, Pentecost, Purim, New Moon, etc. The difference between these holidays and the holidays celebrated today is that some of our modern Christian holidays have pagan or even anti-Christian origins. Christmas and Easter began as attempts to redefine a pagan holiday with a Christian meaning, i.e., the Easter bunny, the Christmas tree, giving gifts, hunting for eggs, etc.

Sorry, but you are mixing things up all over the place...
First of all, Independence Day, Labor Day, and Thanksgiving Day are US National holidays - Nothing wrong at all with national holidays, especially those giving glory to the Father.

To compare: YHWH's feasts are commanded. Purim and Hanukkah are not commanded and are treated much as we treat our national holidays. Same kind of thing, and therein lies precedence for national praise. As Yeshua participated in both, he gave them sanction. There is no bad day for a nation to offer praise.

Secondly, everyone marks birthdays and anniversaries. There is nothing wrong with days of remembrance. Especially so if offering praise.

And finally, like I said before, I am Christian Messianic. That means I keep all those Biblical feasts, and observe Shabbat, in a Messianic context.
Naturally, That is what I recommend for everyone.

To say more would be to step over a fine line on this board.

[DrewsDad]

Funnily enough, it was also heavily commented on here 8 months ago - when it was first published.

But Mechanicos thinks we need to be re-educated now (just like TOS was). 

He just need a moderator to ZOT everyone who disagrees with his position and it will eventually win out.

[roamer_1]

Can you say hypocrite?

Why, yes. I can.

[musiclady]

Nowhere did I say he was a Good Christian. Nor was that the Issue. The issue was his promise to protect Religious liberty of Christians. That his conservative Judge picks and and his moving control of education local are the most likely things a President can do to reverse the direction of our Culture from the hell path its on.

So you post an ancient article that doesn't prove your point in the least.

Well done, Trump guy!  You've proven nothing other than that you're desperate............. and completely wrong. 

[musiclady]

Sorry, but you are mixing things up all over the place...
First of all, Independence Day, Labor Day, and Thanksgiving Day are US National holidays - Nothing wrong at all with national holidays, especially those giving glory to the Father.

To compare: YHWH's feasts are commanded. Purim and Hanukkah are not commanded and are treated much as we treat our national holidays. Same kind of thing, and therein lies precedence for national praise. As Yeshua participated in both, he gave them sanction. There is no bad day for a nation to offer praise.

Secondly, everyone marks birthdays and anniversaries. There is nothing wrong with days of remembrance. Especially so if offering praise.

And finally, like I said before, I am Christian Messianic. That means I keep all those Biblical feasts, and observe Shabbat, in a Messianic context.
Naturally, That is what I recommend for everyone.

To say more would be to step over a fine line on this board.

I'm VERY glad you're here to add your wisdom, roamer!  WELCOME! 

[DrewsDad]

Nowhere did I say he was a Good Christian.

What was the title of the article that you posted?

Oh Yeah: 

 ‘I’m One of You’: Donald Trump Vows to Protect Christians, Religious Liberty

[roamer_1]

I'm VERY glad you're here to add your wisdom, roamer!  WELCOME! 

Hello musiclady! Thank you for you kind reply.  :)

[musiclady]

Hello musiclady! Thank you for you kind reply.  :)

You are most welcome.  I hope you post frequently.  ^-^

[musiclady]

Oh I see.  I'm SB Calvinist, too.  I know lots of people passionately on both sides and many more who really do not know or care.  LOL!

My husband and I were Presbyterians for a number of years, but were raised in slightly more Armenian/mixed churches.

Made for interesting discussions in Sunday School classes!  ^-^