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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #125 on: May 05, 2016, 02:17:35 pm »
Cruz just wanted to see what exploratory negotiations would propose...

"Just two months later, however, Sen. Cruz announced his opposition to the TPP — and insisted that he had never specifically supported it. "

http://www.postandcourier.com/20160502/160509925/protectionismx2019s-scary-comeback

And if you read the article, you will also note that they are promoting TPA, not TPP. They are two separate things. The former covers all trade deals, the latter the specific trade deal. Also note that in the end Cruz voted against TPA.
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #126 on: May 05, 2016, 02:18:05 pm »
And.. out comes Trump's inner progressive.
Another Trump flip-flop from his disorganized mind. Imagine that. More to come!
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #127 on: May 05, 2016, 02:21:43 pm »

Cruz's tax plan would have brought back job, far better than higher min wages and a trade war.

But the ignorant never understood that and went for cheap slogans instead.
Just because Trump can build a casino with illegal labor, take land in a shady deal for a Virginia vineyard, and fail with several projects exiting with bankruptcies that cause the little people their livelihood, does not mean he can run a country.
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #128 on: May 05, 2016, 02:21:54 pm »
Even Trump is now praising Ted as a tough competitor.

Not going to win over 'Trump Realists' who may pragmatically vote for him like this.  Not everyone is going to be a 'Trump Believer'

Because people like me hammered him on his Globalist push.
Who is Ted Cruz?

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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #129 on: May 05, 2016, 02:33:40 pm »
Even Trump is now praising Ted as a tough competitor.

Not going to win over 'Trump Realists' who may pragmatically vote for him like this.  Not everyone is going to be a 'Trump Believer'
Its in the Art of the Deal, under Diplomacy. Business schools teach it. Now that the fight is over no reason to be hateful and its a true statement. Cruz is a good fighter. Just not as good as Trump is.
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #130 on: May 05, 2016, 02:36:14 pm »
Its in the Art of the Deal, under Diplomacy. Business schools teach it. Now that the fight is over no reason to be hateful and its a true statement. Cruz is a good fighter. Just not as good as Trump is.

That remains to be seen.
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #131 on: May 05, 2016, 02:37:22 pm »
Its in the Art of the Deal, under Diplomacy. Business schools teach it. Now that the fight is over no reason to be hateful and its a true statement. Cruz is a good fighter. Just not as good as Trump is.

Being nasty and hateful makes a lot of enemies.   Its also not necessary to make a deal; it does make good press and attracts the reality show crowd.

It doesn't make good Presidents either.
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #132 on: May 05, 2016, 02:39:15 pm »
I'm sure you do. 

Clearly the expansion of the labor pool relative to available jobs is pushing down wages.

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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #133 on: May 05, 2016, 04:18:40 pm »
Cruz's tax plan was a prop. His Owners would never let him do it and you know it. It was put out there to pacify the gullible. Bet you cannot name the 3 donors who were controlling his campaign at the end? BTW. I do have Degrees that include many formal hours of Economics, finance, etc. So please stop trying to blow smoke up my rear.

His owners?  You mean the same ones that own Trump now that he's taking donations and bribes for the general and to pay of his "self paid" loans to himself for the primary? 

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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #134 on: May 05, 2016, 04:18:40 pm »
Trump has already said we should keep abortion laws as they are.

Seems I heard Trump say he was changing his position and there would be an exceptions...rape and life of the mother.  That's his first change on this ONE issue.  Then of course he's changing on the minimum wage issue as well...as of yesterday. 

Wait until today...when he changes again....

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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #135 on: May 05, 2016, 04:22:00 pm »
Being nasty and hateful makes a lot of enemies.   Its also not necessary to make a deal; it does make good press and attracts the reality show crowd.

It doesn't make good Presidents either.

After years of Jerry Springer, Jenny Jones, Oprah, Wendy, MTV reality TV shows, The Apprentice...America is now made up of mostly reality TV show idiots.  Or at least enough to take over a political party.  We all saw it coming well now it's happened.  For years we wondered who watches this garbage?  Or worse who watches this garbage and believes it.  Now we know.  Those left on the FR are those types.

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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #136 on: May 05, 2016, 04:33:40 pm »
Seems I heard Trump say he was changing his position and there would be an exceptions...rape and life of the mother.  That's his first change on this ONE issue.  Then of course he's changing on the minimum wage issue as well...as of yesterday. 

Wait until today...when he changes again....
And the disinformation from the lying media continues. Set up gotcha questions are not what Trump said on minimum wage. Anybody not hating him can read the whole context and see all he said was he was thinking about minimum wages not anything about raising them. That was the interviewer. In Context he said they made us non competitive and talked about wages from Jobs. Anybody saying Trump said he was considering raising minimum wages is lying - Just like they were doing before, twisting and spinning  trying to put words in his mouth to fit their agenda. 

They pulled the same Gotcha set up with the gay issue but the cultists bought that line hook and sinker too, Unless its his words not the medias stop adding to what he actually said.

To wit, hes thinking about the Minimum wage issue. Its making us non-competitive and he would like to increase wages with Jobs. This is the same as his talking about bringing back manufacturing coal etc to the US aka high paying jobs. If you are going to attack him please do not use made up garbage.
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #137 on: May 05, 2016, 04:37:59 pm »
And the disinformation from the lying media continues. Set up gotcha questions are not what Trump said on minimum wage. Anybody not hating him can read the whole context and see all he said was he was thinking about minimum wages not anything about raising them. That was the interviewer. In Context he said they made us non competitive and talked about wages from Jobs. Anybody saying Trump said he was considering raising minimum wages is lying - Just like they were doing before, twisting and spinning  trying to put words in his mouth to fit their agenda. 

They pulled the same Gotcha set up with the gay issue but the cultists bought that line hook and sinker too, Unless its his words not the medias stop adding to what he actually said.

To wit, hes thinking about the Minimum wage issue. Its making us non-competitive and he would like to increase wages with Jobs. This is the same as his talking about bringing back manufacturing coal etc to the US aka high paying jobs. If you are going to attack him please do not use made up garbage.

Please. This is the old 'everything is taken out of context, gotcha questions, he didn't mean what he said'.

He said what he said. I've seen the videos. We've all seen the videos. Don't tell me what my lying eyes didn't see.
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #138 on: May 05, 2016, 04:57:03 pm »
Please. This is the old 'everything is taken out of context, gotcha questions, he didn't mean what he said'.

He said what he said. I've seen the videos. We've all seen the videos. Don't tell me what my lying eyes didn't see.

Useful idiots for Trump rewrote history.  They took the main person who killed the gang of 8 via a poison pill (claimed to want to allow it but no citizenship)...and then used that against him as if he really was for amnesty.  All to support a man who says he is for touchback amnesty.  It's a crazy world when people can actually believe their own lies.
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #139 on: May 05, 2016, 05:09:24 pm »
And the disinformation from the lying media continues. Set up gotcha questions are not what Trump said on minimum wage. Anybody not hating him can read the whole context and see all he said was he was thinking about minimum wages not anything about raising them. That was the interviewer. In Context he said they made us non competitive and talked about wages from Jobs. Anybody saying Trump said he was considering raising minimum wages is lying - Just like they were doing before, twisting and spinning  trying to put words in his mouth to fit their agenda. 

They pulled the same Gotcha set up with the gay issue but the cultists bought that line hook and sinker too, Unless its his words not the medias stop adding to what he actually said.

To wit, hes thinking about the Minimum wage issue. Its making us non-competitive and he would like to increase wages with Jobs. This is the same as his talking about bringing back manufacturing coal etc to the US aka high paying jobs. If you are going to attack him please do not use made up garbage.

From another poster....enjoy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqMw9sLzTeQ

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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #140 on: May 05, 2016, 07:22:25 pm »
Please. This is the old 'everything is taken out of context, gotcha questions, he didn't mean what he said'.

He said what he said. I've seen the videos. We've all seen the videos. Don't tell me what my lying eyes didn't see.
Then you know you cannot find one time he said he was going to raise minimum wages and YOU KNEW he said raise wages with Jobs and that Min wage made us uncompetitive.  You hear what you want to hear. 
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #141 on: May 05, 2016, 07:33:46 pm »
From another poster....enjoy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqMw9sLzTeQ
And that is why you lost. Trees vs forest. Survival of America vs Social issues the President has no constitutional power to do anything about.

Education Courts and Religious Freedom. Anything else is just people who cannot see the Forest from the trees.
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #142 on: May 05, 2016, 07:36:41 pm »
Cruz's tax plan was a prop. His Owners would never let him do it and you know it. It was put out there to pacify the gullible. Bet you cannot name the 3 donors who were controlling his campaign at the end? BTW. I do have Degrees that include many formal hours of Economics, finance, etc. So please stop trying to blow smoke up my rear.



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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #143 on: May 05, 2016, 09:03:23 pm »
Cmon A-lert its really not that hard.  When someone says "the law" they are implying using the Constitutional process where Congress writes a bill, votes on it and then passes it to the President for signature into law.   How many times has Trump talked about working with Congress?   How many times has he said he's gonna do something? 

The office of the President is an extremely powerful position and they can push for new laws.

Whats been happening is the President issues decrees which technically only effect the Executive Branch.  But then those Departments under him change their interpretation of regulations which have the force of law.

Trump is going to use executive orders to do what he wants.  The only working with Congress he'll do will be to push through things like a higher minimum wage or to make it legal for men to use womens restrooms and showers.

You state everything as a fact when you know that isn't so. The POTUS can push and influence legislation and issue EOs, but there are limitations of power for the office. An elected POTUS isn't a dictator.

That last sentence of yours is total nonsense. Sadly, not unexpected

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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #144 on: May 05, 2016, 09:57:02 pm »
You state everything as a fact when you know that isn't so. The POTUS can push and influence legislation and issue EOs, but there are limitations of power for the office. An elected POTUS isn't a dictator.

That last sentence of yours is total nonsense. Sadly, not unexpected

Really then it shouldn't be hard for you to post a statement by him saying he would work with Congress.  Right?
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #145 on: May 05, 2016, 09:58:35 pm »
And that is why you lost. Trees vs forest. Survival of America vs Social issues the President has no constitutional power to do anything about.

Education Courts and Religious Freedom. Anything else is just people who cannot see the Forest from the trees.

Hasn't stopped Obama.
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #146 on: May 05, 2016, 10:13:34 pm »
Hasn't stopped Obama.

I Want Trump to follow the Constitution. And as much as hes disliked by the Establishment you can be assured they will hold him to it.
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #148 on: May 05, 2016, 10:26:46 pm »
Quote from: A-Lert link=topic=204998.msg867108#msg867108 idate=1462486520
It goes without saying.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/21/donald-trumps-team-courts-members-of-congress/

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/267003-trump-ill-work-with-democrats

Oh yeah wed expect him to work with democrats now wouldn't wr.
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Re: In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage
« Reply #149 on: May 05, 2016, 11:04:00 pm »
Oh yeah wed expect him to work with democrats now wouldn't wr.

Reagan managed. Better have powers of persuasion if you can't be a dictator.