(POLL #2) VOTE! IF TRUMP IS THE NOMINEE WILL YOU VOTE FOR HIM?

[For-Q-Clinton]

He's advocating a wall to finally control our southern border. That's where we start.

Some, like the Dreamers, deserve to be first in line....right behind those doing it legally.

And those that are here illegally are next in line. So they will continue to come in illegally since there is no penalty at all for coming here via illegal channels.  No thanks...only idiots think that works and I'm not idiot.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Keep up the good fight, my FRiend!   I read all of your posts.

I have what I used to consider "close FRiends",   heck, almost 'family'...in the #nevertrump camp.

I am just a poor boy
Though my story's seldom told
I have squandered my resistance
For a pocketful of mumbles
Such are promises
All lies and jest
Still, a man hears what he wants to hear
And disregards the rest.

Lie la lie...

[DB]

Nope, that's not what I said.

Tell me this Pete, if you were a 70 year old billionaire with a beautiful wife and loving children, would you take time out of your life to run for President?

Funny how you talk about the "beautiful wife" as if she were a prize. You say "loving children" in contrast... Very telling...

And the answer is easy, "President" is the biggest power prize of them all. To win that is to place your name in history on a very short list. The biggest ego stroke of all, much more exclusive than a mere billionaire.

[wolfcreek]

I agree,but Trump ain't nothing but more "Business as usual".

That remains to be seen. Compared to Hillary's agenda, it wouldn't take much.

[wolfcreek]

Santa used to promise a lot of crap,too. Do you still believe in Santa?

The only difference is the Santa of your youth worked for the department stores that were trying to sell your parents a bill  of good,and todays's Santa used other people's money to buy the department store,and he is busying billing the store for everything he does,and planning on looting the store of any money left over before he bails.

Those of issues I want the next POTUS to deal with. No one but Trump has addressed them. The rest want to follow the path we've been on for more than 100 years....toward a Socialist NWO where everything is controlled by a central government.

Britain realized this and so should we.

[wolfcreek]

You mean that someone whose business model is bankruptcy,and who makes their money from claiming bankruptcy after raiding the coffers of the business they are supposed to be running to pay their personal bills is someone you wouldn't support?

Is it possible that you don't know ANYTHING about Trump other than he claims to be a Republican?

It's possible I'm not as knowledgeable and cock-sure as you, Pete.

One thing I am sure of is that Hillary is a proven disaster whose presidency would further send this country down the Progressive highway, essentially destroying any semblance of Right wing leadership for the foreseeable future. That Sir is a given.

[wolfcreek]

Funny how you talk about the "beautiful wife" as if she were a prize. You say "loving children" in contrast... Very telling...

And the answer is easy, "President" is the biggest power prize of them all. To win that is to place your name in history on a very short list. The biggest ego stroke of all, much more exclusive than a mere billionaire.

Hog wash! If I had all those things plus a thriving family business, I wouldn't waste my time trying to save a ship full of morons. [or Hillary's butt]

And your back-handed slam about what I think of women is just some more ridiculous rhetoric from the land of #nevertrump. aka #landofthelost

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Trump is sea biscuit? Wasn't there a list on FR about the ridiculous things Trump has been compared to? I bet sea biscuit isn't one of them.

[Oceander]

Trump is sea biscuit? Wasn't there a list on FR about the ridiculous things Trump has been compared to? I bet sea biscuit isn't one of them.

He's certainly this part of Seabiscuit:

[Idiot]

He's certainly this part of Seabiscuit:

[sneakypete]

It's possible I'm not as knowledgeable and cock-sure as you, Pete.

One thing I am sure of is that Hillary is a proven disaster whose presidency would further send this country down the Progressive highway, essentially destroying any semblance of Right wing leadership for the foreseeable future. That Sir is a given.

It is also a given that two wrongs (fascists,in this case) don't make for a right (president).  We will never remove the corrupt One Party System in place now as long as people who SHOULD know better keep voting for one of the contestants controlled by the One World Government Fascists.

[sneakypete]

Hog wash! If I had all those things plus a thriving family business, I wouldn't waste my time trying to save a ship full of morons. [or Hillary's butt]

Yeah,but YOU are not a narcissistic sociopath with an ego the size of the known universe.

[wolfcreek]

It is also a given that two wrongs (fascists,in this case) don't make for a right (president).  We will never remove the corrupt One Party System in place now as long as people who SHOULD know better keep voting for one of the contestants controlled by the One World Government Fascists.

Which one of those 17 potential GOP candidates fit that bill.

Carson, that chick or Trump. Everyone else belonged to some slimy organization, went to one of 'those' universities or had a spouse who was involved with big banks,  hedge funds, etc.

[wolfcreek]

Yeah,but YOU are not a narcissistic sociopath with an ego the size of the known universe.

How do you know? 

BTW: what you got against Pay Pal?

[sneakypete]

Which one of those 17 potential GOP candidates fit that bill.

Carson, that chick or Trump. Everyone else belonged to some slimy organization, went to one of 'those' universities or had a spouse who was involved with big banks,  hedge funds, etc.

Trump is a definite fit.  It's not only where he lives,it is where he was born.

[sneakypete]

How do you know? 

BTW: what you got against Pay Pal?

Owners are radical globalists that support pretty much everything I despise.

[DCPatriot]

Trump is a definite fit.  It's not only where he lives,it is where he was born.

@sneakypete

You begin with the premise that there's a love of this country someplace in Donald Trump's heart.

And using his "ego-mania", and "narcissistic" vices in your argument, he won't allow himself to fail.

He would LOVE to go down in history as the "Man Who Saved America".

And our whole point is, being that he's the ONLY candidate that can get us there.

[wolfcreek]

Trump is a definite fit.  It's not only where he lives,it is where he was born.

He never wentto the 'right' schools, he was never part of the MIC, he's not in any organizations like Council on Foreign Relations or elite frats.

He would be in the position as POTUS to piss off everyone of those you consider enemies of the free world.

Maybe he already has?

http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/03/01/the-council-of-foreign-relations-declares-war-on-donald-trump-his-days-are-numbered/

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

You begin with the premise that there's a love of this country someplace in Donald Trump's heart.<<

*I* begin with the premise that he loves no one but himself,and only loves his children because they are extensions of himself. "Mini-Me's" for him to leave behind after the current version dies.


And using his "ego-mania", and "narcissistic" vices in your argument, he won't allow himself to fail.<<

Which is why I have been saying since the day he announced that he would drop out of the race late. The one thing his ego can't stand is to lose big in such a public way that he can't deny losing.

Granted,I also think he had a behind the scenes deal with the DNC/Bubbette! to do this (think Ross Perot,Part-2) and IF he were to be winning late in the election he might decide to feed his ego by screwing Bubbette! and staying in the race,but the chances of this idiot beating even Bubbette! range from slim to none at all. Ergo,he will keep the deal,drop out,get paid off,and spend the rest of his life bragging about how "I COULD have been the President of the United States if I wanted,but decided the job was beneath me so I dropped out."


He would LOVE to go down in history as the "Man Who Saved America".<<

It has also been claimed that people in Hell want ice water.

And our whole point is, being that he's the ONLY candidate that can get us there.<<


He can't and won't get us anywhere,but to another President Clinton.

[sneakypete]

He never wentto the 'right' schools, he was never part of the MIC, he's not in any organizations like Council on Foreign Relations or elite frats.<<

So what? He is life-long "besties" with everyone that did,and being one of them is one of his life-long desires,

[INVAR]

He would LOVE to go down in history as the "Man Who Saved America".

And our whole point is, being that he's the ONLY candidate that can get us there.

That's absolute idolatry and blasphemy against both God and the Constitution.

Not surprising since you people have made it clear you want a king, a prince and dictator, you don't care if it's the Devil himself - making ridiculous claims of delusional grandeur that Trump will be the one to save us, when he was sent to destroy any effective opposition to Hildabeast.

It's 2008 all over again - with a mob of zealots convinced their man is messiah in the flesh.

[MACVSOG68]

That's absolute idolatry and blasphemy against both God and the Constitution.

Not surprising since you people have made it clear you want a king, a prince and dictator, you don't care if it's the Devil himself - making ridiculous claims of delusional grandeur that Trump will be the one to save us, when he was sent to destroy any effective opposition to Hildabeast.

It's 2008 all over again - with a mob of zealots convinced their man is messiah in the flesh.

Idolatry, blasphemy, God, the Devil, the messiah, mob of zealots?  Glad you're helping to keep these political discussions reasonable and rational...

[INVAR]

Idolatry, blasphemy, God, the Devil, the messiah, mob of zealots?  Glad you're helping to keep these political discussions reasonable and rational...

You apparently have been missing out on the dialogue from the Trump Militant in the past week.

I do not find any reasonableness or rationality in a mindset that insists that Trump is going to save the country.   It is idolatry to assume one man is going to save this nation, when we do not have a monarchy and were not founded on that precept so many now ascribe to Trump.

And the Lucifer deal, well - as one of the acolytes for Trump himself stated, he is HIS Lucifer.

So you have that which I referenced.

[DCPatriot]

Dennis Miller:

Don’t kid yourself.

At this point, any vote for anyone that is not Donald Trump is a vote for Hillary Clinton.

Also, both Presidential boxes left blank is a vote for Hillary Clinton because as mindless as Liberals can be even they don’t enter into suicide pacts with that petulant, whiny part of themselves.

As that is your wont, fine…do it!

But don’t bullshit yourself.

You’re electing Hillary Clinton because you want to elect Hillary Clinton.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/05/dennis-miller-dont-kid-point-vote-anyone-not-trump-vote-hillary/

[Oceander]

Dennis Miller:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/05/dennis-miller-dont-kid-point-vote-anyone-not-trump-vote-hillary/

Love how that logical fallacy keeps rearing its ugly head.  Just goes to show that Trump supporters have a very weak grasp of basic logic.  I am only responsible for the vote I cast, not for the votes I do not cast.  And if I do not vote for a certain person, that is the fault of that person and that person's supporters, because they failed to persuade me.

It's too bad Trump is such anathema to so many people.  If his supporters had used their brains, instead of giving in to their hatred and fear, we wouldn't be in this place.