Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want

[Wingnut]

After reading this entire thread, man I am tired 

You all do realize that drag Queens and transgender have been using women's bathrooms for many years?
You probably do not know that because they look and act like women, or hookers! But either way they go in do their business wash Their hands, fix their  makeup and leave.

If man is stalking a woman he will go in a bathroom anyway.



You do know that women will run into the men's room  when the ladies room line is wrapped around the building and she  has to pee from the four beers she just drank?

Ok, maybe a lot of you don't know that last scenario. 
But point being, the law is crock!

Nothing will be any different than it is now.
Predators will be no more prevalent than they already are.

Chicken Little has been out screaming the sky is falling, and everyone believes it!
This is nothing but a left ploy to show the right as s bunch of drama queens.

Common sense tells you to not go into a bathroom in a secluded place or late at night in a secluded place.

Plus, if any of you are letting your young children go to the bathroom in a public place alone, Then shame on you!

Okay. Nice. Fine.  Point taken.    How liberal of you.   

[MACVSOG68]

He is like most of us. We have personal beliefs and feelings. I don't hate gays, transgenders or transexuals. I just don't knowingly associate with them. I would withdraw my child from school if the school district decided my child's privacy and security wasn't important. I do hate child molesters and pedophiles. However, they generally aren't identified until after the assault on their victims.

No, Trump's not like most of us.  But you really know that. 

And again, it's not just child molesters.  And depending on where you live, get used to the word "choice".  But like you, I don't hate any of them.  I simply want them to stay out of my life, and I don't want to live where there's a no questions asked policy about who goes into which restroom, especially in schools.  It's not going to happen here in SC for ( ).  It's a simple law; go where the plumbing is allowed.  And don't treat us all like knuckle-dragging bigots because we treasure our privacy and that of our kids.

[MACVSOG68]

The SOCONS pull this sh*t every 4 years.

I know it.  You know it.   And Democrat Party knows it.

My country is being purposely destroyed as Founded, and this cycle, they get all stupid over Abortion and Transgenders being able to use the restroom of their choice.   

Every four years they pull out the Abortion litmus test as if that's the deal breaker for them.

But you're right.   I'll go back to laughing with them once Cleveland is a memory.     

I don't think this thread has anything to do with abortion.  Anyway Cruz seems to be the only one staunchly opposed.  Kasich is against partial-birth abortion; Trump is...well..I'm not really sure, though he supports PP, so that should mean he's not socially conservative.  So I don't think abortion is likely to be a major issue this year.  Anyway, as I said before, this PC stuff is Trumps' campaign, but when it comes up...it seems to be about little more than being able to say Merry Christmas.

[MACVSOG68]

After reading this entire thread, man I am tired 

You all do realize that drag Queens and transgender have been using women's bathrooms for many years?
You probably do not know that because they look and act like women, or hookers! But either way they go in do their business wash Their hands, fix their  makeup and leave.

If man is stalking a woman he will go in a bathroom anyway.



You do know that women will run into the men's room  when the ladies room line is wrapped around the building and she  has to pee from the four beers she just drank?

Ok, maybe a lot of you don't know that last scenario. 
But point being, the law is crock!

Nothing will be any different than it is now.
Predators will be no more prevalent than they already are.

Chicken Little has been out screaming the sky is falling, and everyone believes it!
This is nothing but a left ploy to show the right as s bunch of drama queens.

Common sense tells you to not go into a bathroom in a secluded place or late at night in a secluded place.

Plus, if any of you are letting your young children go to the bathroom in a public place alone, Then shame on you!

Somehow you missed the whole privacy..secure feeling issue.  Trannies don't have to wear dresses any more in some states, and apparently soon the whole Country  And if they don't, how secure is your granddaughter going to feel taking a pee with a bunch of guys standing in there?  It's going that way.  And no one who supports Trump wants to criticize anything he does or says.  Just because his big campaign issue is political correctness doesn't mean he has to have any problem with it.  If someone jumps up and says they don't like the way things are going on this whole gender issue, they will be condemned by the left.  Isn't that a PC issue?  Where will Trump stand on it?  this is yet another don't ask, don't tell thing.

But as JimRob says...it's a nothing burger.   

[MACVSOG68]

   


And MAC, too!   

Well...

[NavyCanDo]

I'll throw my 2-cents in on this conversation. The bathroom you choose should match your equipment not the clothes you wear. You want to use the girls bathroom, then get a wacadicoffamy surgical procedure. 
A huge number of transsexuals live that lifestyle not because they have a true conflict with sexual identity, - most want to keep their male equipment. For these its largely part of a sexual fantasy they live out. Many of these are not gay at all, and have the same interest in girls as you and I. Some are even married to women who have excepted it. Bruce Jenner comes to mind. Others have taken a very perverted path, working in porn and prostitution. Now I did not say "all", but it is the truth that there is a large number of these people you really really really don't want in the bathroom with your daughter or wife.  If you are going to have a policy that transgender / transsexual people can use a girls bathroom, you are opening Pandora's box.

[Lando Lincoln]

Well...

Well then... 

Where's the bathroom?

[Jazzhead]

After reading this entire thread, man I am tired 

You all do realize that drag Queens and transgender have been using women's bathrooms for many years?
You probably do not know that because they look and act like women, or hookers! But either way they go in do their business wash Their hands, fix their  makeup and leave.

If man is stalking a woman he will go in a bathroom anyway.



You do know that women will run into the men's room  when the ladies room line is wrapped around the building and she  has to pee from the four beers she just drank?

Ok, maybe a lot of you don't know that last scenario. 
But point being, the law is crock!

Nothing will be any different than it is now.
Predators will be no more prevalent than they already are.

Chicken Little has been out screaming the sky is falling, and everyone believes it!
This is nothing but a left ploy to show the right as s bunch of drama queens.

Common sense tells you to not go into a bathroom in a secluded place or late at night in a secluded place.

Plus, if any of you are letting your young children go to the bathroom in a public place alone, Then shame on you!

Agreed.  Common sense works better than more laws.  This is nanny-state conservatism,  and shouldn't that be a ridiculous contradiction?   

Laws like this won't stop predators from going into a bathroom.   And drag queens in bathrooms aren't predators.   As for everyone's "comfort", there's still the sign on the door, and the common sense and common courtesy that's seemed to work just fine for hundreds of years before some folks decided this was a problem for government to solve.     

[DCPatriot]

Agreed.  Common sense works better than more laws.  This is nanny-state conservatism,  and shouldn't that be a ridiculous contradiction?   

Laws like this won't stop predators from going into a bathroom.   And drag queens in bathrooms aren't predators.   As for everyone's "comfort", there's still the sign on the door, and the common sense and common courtesy that's seemed to work just fine for hundreds of years before some folks decided this was a problem for government to solve.   

Exactly, Jazzhead!

We've spent/wasted 48 hours on this BS nothing story.

Meanwhile, United Healthcare closed a dozens of State Exchanges because they can't survive.

And the MSM was painfully silent, giving Obama and Hillary full cover on the bust that is Obamacare.

[geronl]

Agreed.  Common sense works better than more laws.  This is nanny-state conservatism,  and shouldn't that be a ridiculous contradiction?   

Laws like this won't stop predators from going into a bathroom.   And drag queens in bathrooms aren't predators.   As for everyone's "comfort", there's still the sign on the door, and the common sense and common courtesy that's seemed to work just fine for hundreds of years before some folks decided this was a problem for government to solve.   

Mohammad has a full length beard and long robe, I guess its okay that he is following a bunch of 6 year olds into the public bathroom, I mean who are we to judge....

[geronl]

Laws like this won't stop predators from going into a bathroom. 

Inviting the perverts and predators in, will definitely increase those sorts of crimes.

But I guess sacrifice the girls is a small price to pay for political correctness and diversity.

[Jazzhead]

Exactly, Jazzhead!

We've spent/wasted 48 hours on this BS nothing story.

Meanwhile, United Healthcare closed a dozens of State Exchanges because they can't survive.

And the MSM was painfully silent, giving Obama and Hillary full cover on the bust that is Obamacare.

Thanks, DC.   If we can make Clinton and Obama's failures the issue, we can win this year.    This penny-ante stuff - ginning up government-provided solutions to made up problems - is what kills us with everyone who gets their news filtered through sources other than right-wing radio.   

[geronl]

Thanks, DC.   If we can make Clinton and Obama's failures the issue, we can win this year.    This penny-ante stuff - ginning up government-provided solutions to made up problems - is what kills us with everyone who gets their news filtered through sources other than right-wing radio.

Courts ruling that boys can hop into the showers with 13 year old girls is a made up problem...  lol.

[Jazzhead]

Inviting the perverts and predators in, will definitely increase those sorts of crimes.

But I guess sacrifice the girls is a small price to pay for political correctness and diversity.

No!  No one's "inviting perverts in".   There's still a sign on the door.   A pervert can't claim as a defense that he identifies as a female.   This law is not only concocted to solve a problem that doesn't exist, it does nothing to solve that supposed problem.   Repeat after me - a pervert cannot claim this law as a defense, because it doesn't mitigate his offense.   

[A-Lert]

No, Trump's not like most of us.  But you really know that. 

And again, it's not just child molesters.  And depending on where you live, get used to the word "choice".  But like you, I don't hate any of them.  I simply want them to stay out of my life, and I don't want to live where there's a no questions asked policy about who goes into which restroom, especially in schools.  It's not going to happen here in SC for ( ).  It's a simple law; go where the plumbing is allowed.  And don't treat us all like knuckle-dragging bigots because we treasure our privacy and that of our kids.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/20/us/virginia-transgender-bathroom-case/index.html

Transgender teen wins federal case over bathrooms, Title IX

Incidentally, the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals also covers North Carolina. That means Grimm's victory sets a precedent for students who might challenge North Carolina's new law prohibiting transgender people from using public restrooms for the gender they identify with.

"This opinion is binding in all the states in the 4th Circuit," constitutional lawyer Page Pate said. Those states include Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

The thing about transvesties and transexuals (people who have biologically changed genders), is that it was up to stores and facilities to decide for themselves whether they wanted to remove people who were clearly not the right sex and were making people uncomfortable. The next frontier is that you or business owners won't have the right to tell someone not to use the bathroom in your establishment as long as they "feel like a woman".

[Mesaclone]

You are arguing from the point of defense and geron1 is arguing from a point of prevention.  Big difference.  As for a problem not existing, that's not true.  Women and children are often targets for attack.  The perps don't wear signs saying "perp" and the crossdressers saying "crossdresser."    All men should be kept out of the restroom.  Plus there is the issue of comfort.  This is being pushed for the comfort of men who choose to act like women.  What about the comfort of women who are actually women?

As Mr. Trump said clearly today, why don't we just let each state, county and municipality make its own decisions regarding bathroom etiquette. That said, this silliness about crowds of transgenders invading "little girl" occupied bathrooms is just ridiculous. First, they could already do so if they were an actual pervert...and second, couldn't everything you're saying about transgenders apply to lesbians if they were being "perverts and predatory"?

Many of you are looking for a solution where no problem exists, and are concocting absurd scenarios that are incredibly unlikely to occur. This is simply not a presidential issue for a national campaign. And for the record, the ladies bathroom isn't like where we fellas do our business...they have separate stalls with locking doors.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Thanks, DC.   If we can make Clinton and Obama's failures the issue, we can win this year.    This penny-ante stuff - ginning up government-provided solutions to made up problems - is what kills us with everyone who gets their news filtered through sources other than right-wing radio.

Which is what this election was upposed to be about, but instead we ended up with a freak show and a 24/7 news cycle dedicated to "what Trump said" which has obliterated any discussion out side of whose wife is hotter, innuendos about the size of the candidates penises, "Lying Ted" and "Little Marco" and "The Wall". Arguing that we should now discuss the failures of the Democrats in order to support the guy who has for months done nothing but beat Republicans and the Republican Party into the ground is pretty damned ironic.

[mountaineer]

As Mr. Trump said clearly today, why don't we just let each state, county and municipality make its own decisions

Too late. The federal courts have entered the fray (see A-Lert's post above).

[Mesaclone]

Too late. The federal courts have entered the fray (see A-Lert's post above).

Which makes the point, we MUST ensure our nominee wins and can appoint the next 2-3 SCJ's over these next 4 years.

[Jazzhead]

You are arguing from the point of defense and geron1 is arguing from a point of prevention.  Big difference.  As for a problem not existing, that's not true.  Women and children are often targets for attack.  The perps don't wear signs saying "perp" and the crossdressers saying "crossdresser."    All men should be kept out of the restroom.  Plus there is the issue of comfort.  This is being pushed for the comfort of men who choose to act like women.  What about the comfort of women who are actually women?

I understand the distinction you're drawing, but how does this law constitute "prevention"?   It's the sign on the door that provides the prevention - if a guy sneaks into a bathroom and molests a girl,  his claim that he "identifies as a female"  does not mitigate his offense.   

Please explain specifically how this law "prevents" molestation/attacks.    Remember,  transgenders go into bathrooms for the same reason you do - to pee.   And all the law does is dictate the location for peeing.   

[Jazzhead]

Which makes the point, we MUST ensure our nominee wins and can appoint the next 2-3 SCJ's over these next 4 years.

So you support the one who's most certain to lose. 

Just brilliant, sir.   

[Mesaclone]

So you support the one who's most certain to lose. 

Just brilliant, sir.

In my view, he's the most likely to win. There is much more than polls that go on to assessing how a nominee will do in a general election.  Specifically, appeal to Reagan Dems and Independents AND positioning on key issues with the electorate.

So its not really brilliant...its a common sense choice.

[DCPatriot]

The thing about transvesties and transexuals (people who have biologically changed genders), is that it was up to stores and facilities to decide for themselves whether they wanted to remove people who were clearly not the right sex and were making people uncomfortable. The next frontier is that you or business owners won't have the right to tell someone not to use the bathroom in your establishment as long as they "feel like a woman".

The simple solution here is to install a 3rd restroom.

Men.  Women.  Transgender.

Now....let's talk about the shitty economy, Donald.

[Chosen Daughter]

The simple solution here is to install a 3rd restroom.

Men.  Women.  Transgender.

Now....let's talk about the shitty economy, Donald.

That's what they need to do.