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GOP split over accepting Trump
« on: March 03, 2016, 03:07:56 pm »
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/271579-gop-split-over-accepting-trump

 By Scott Wong and Alexander Bolton - 03/03/16 06:00 AM EST

Republicans in Washington are divided over how to handle Donald Trump, who after Super Tuesday is a step closer to becoming the GOP standard-bearer this fall.

Trump’s rise has stunned establishment Republicans, who have been grasping for any strategy that might deny Trump the nomination.

But with the businessman’s delegate lead growing, a number of GOP lawmakers also say they’re preparing to work with whoever the Republican nominee is.

“Either we trust the primary system or we don’t. We trust the primary voters or we don’t,” said Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.), who had endorsed Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) before he dropped out of the race. “I will be supporting our nominee against Mrs. [Hillary] Clinton.”

Among Senate Republicans, there’s a growing feeling that opposition to Trump would backfire, given voter distrust of the GOP establishment.

“My impression is the voters are voting with their own minds and they’re not looking for direction or guidance from me or anybody else,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas).

In the House, Wednesday marked the first sign of any coordination between Trump’s campaign and Speaker Paul Ryan’s (R-Wis.) office, which said it had been contacted by the front-runner’s campaign about discussing the party’s agenda this fall.

Republicans determined to prevent Trump from becoming the party’s standard-bearer are running out of time and options.

The Club for Growth and other conservative groups hope to stop Trump’s momentum with a multimillion-dollar ad barrage in Florida and Ohio, two crucial battleground states that will hold winner-take-all primaries on March 15.

But the anti-Trump campaigns have had little impact so far, with the businessman co-opting the “establishment” attacks into his outsider message.

There’s also half-hearted chatter among Republicans about a floor fight at this summer’s GOP convention in Cleveland. Some even hold out hope that a third-party candidate could enter the race.

“These are things that are unprecedented, but this has already been an unprecedented campaign,” said GOP strategist Doug Heye, a former party official who says he won’t back Trump as the nominee under any circumstance. “You cannot definitively rule anything out.”

 Like Heye, a handful of congressional Republicans, including Sen. Ben Sasse (Neb.) and Reps. Scott Rigell (Va.) and Carlos Curbelo (Fla.), have said they’ll refuse to support Trump if he wins the party’s nomination — though none would say he’d cross party lines and vote for Clinton.

On the other end of the spectrum is a small cadre of GOP lawmakers who have gone all in for Trump: Sen. Jeff Sessions (Ala.), who endorsed him at a rally in Alabama, and Reps. Chris Collins (N.Y.), Duncan Hunter (Calif.), Scott DesJarlais (Tenn.) and Tom Marino (Pa.).

The two most powerful Republicans in Washington — Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) — have pledged to back Trump if he’s the GOP nominee. But hours before polls closed on Tuesday, they both rebuked Trump for failing to firmly disavow the support of former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke.

And at a Super Tuesday news conference held after his victories, Trump said he and Ryan would either get along of the Speaker would “pay a big price.”

Both Ryan and McConnell also have a strong interest in protecting vulnerable GOP incumbents and their House and Senate majorities.

Democrats already are linking vulnerable Republicans to the GOP front-runner. In a TV ad, Democratic Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick blasted Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) for saying he’d support Trump if he is the nominee. And after the KKK controversy, House Democrats’ campaign arm circulated a photo of Trump with vulnerable Rep. Jeff Denham (R-Calif.).

Ryan’s “avoiding the day-to-day food fight, but he will speak up when he believes there are remarks being made contrary to what we stand for as conservatives and, more importantly, as Americans,” said a source close to the Speaker.

Trump has secured at least 319 delegates, compared with 226 for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, 110 for Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, 25 for Ohio Gov. John Kasich and eight for Ben Carson, according to The Associated Press. To capture the nomination, a candidate needs 1,237 delegates.

Though Trump has begun pulling away from the pack, his remaining rivals are refusing to drop out, in the event Trump gets tripped up and can’t close the deal.

“It’s like two cars in the Daytona 500. Cruz is in the draft, right on his bumper, hoping that Trump blows out a tire so to speak,” said one Southern GOP lawmaker who is staying neutral in the primary. “But they are getting closer and closer to the finish line.”

GOP leaders recognize they have little ability to push anyone out of the race to boost the chances of coalescing around a Trump alternative. And his rivals want to stay in the race as long as they can, given the possibility of a brokered convention in mid-July, Cornyn said.

“Kasich, for example, wants to stay in at least through Ohio because he thinks he can win Ohio. My guess is if he wins Ohio, he’ll stick around a while longer,” Cornyn said.

Some Republicans are giving a second look to Cruz, who is second in the delegate count after winning four states.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who just last week joked about how no one would be convicted for killing Cruz on the Senate floor if the jury were made up of his colleagues, on Tuesday floated the idea that Republicans could rally to support the Texas senator.

But Graham is in the distinct minority. Several GOP senators argue Cruz would have an even more negative effect on Senate candidates than Trump. Plus, lawmakers would have to overcome their intense personal dislike of Cruz.

“The reason that people aren’t attacking Trump with more vitriol is because they really hate Cruz,” said a senior GOP aide. “You can’t underestimate the schadenfreude factor of how much people want to see Cruz go down.”

McConnell has remained terse with his colleagues on the subject of Trump. He advised them during a lunch meeting last Thursday to be prepared to run against the nominee but didn’t go into much detail.

“There was not a list of instructions,” said one lawmaker who requested anonymity to speak about internal discussions. “He said, ‘You have to prepare the situation.’ ”

“He said, ‘Be prepared to run against the nominee,’ ” said another GOP senator, who added that McConnell assured colleagues that the party would direct the bulk of its resources to saving the Senate if it became clear Trump or any other nominee had no chance of winning.

“He said in 1996 it was clear that [Republican presidential nominee Bob Dole] was going to lose, and the party put resources into Senate and House races instead,” the lawmaker added.
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Re: GOP split over accepting Trump
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2016, 04:21:52 pm »

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Re: GOP split over accepting Trump
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2016, 04:30:44 pm »
...perhaps it's time for the establishment to realize, if they don't rally around Cruz, they WILL have Trump and potentially lose the White House.  But with Cruz so feared because they know he won't play their game, I do see this going to a brokered convention and chances are they are going to put in who they want anyways; Bush, Romney, Ryan, Rubio, etc.  The hell with who the people want.

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Re: GOP split over accepting Trump
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2016, 05:29:05 pm »
Split?  It is chasm.


We the undersigned, members of the Republican national security community, represent a broad spectrum of opinion on America’s role in the world and what is necessary to keep us safe and prosperous. We have disagreed with one another on many issues, including the Iraq war and intervention in Syria. But we are united in our opposition to a Donald Trump presidency. Recognizing as we do, the conditions in American politics that have contributed to his popularity, we nonetheless are obligated to state our core objections clearly:

His vision of American influence and power in the world is wildly inconsistent and unmoored in principle. He swings from isolationism to military adventurism within the space of one sentence.

His advocacy for aggressively waging trade wars is a recipe for economic disaster in a globally connected world.

His embrace of the expansive use of torture is inexcusable.

His hateful, anti-Muslim rhetoric undercuts the seriousness of combatting Islamic radicalism by alienating partners in the Islamic world making significant contributions to the effort. Furthermore, it endangers the safety and Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms of American Muslims.

Controlling our border and preventing illegal immigration is a serious issue, but his insistence that Mexico will fund a wall on the southern border inflames unhelpful passions, and rests on an utter misreading of, and contempt for, our southern neighbor.

Similarly, his insistence that close allies such as Japan must pay vast sums for protection is the sentiment of a racketeer, not the leader of the alliances that have served us so well since World War II.

His admiration for foreign dictators such as Vladimir Putin is unacceptable for the leader of the world’s greatest democracy.

He is fundamentally dishonest. Evidence of this includes his attempts to deny positions he has unquestionably taken in the past, including on the 2003 Iraq war and the 2011 Libyan conflict. We accept that views evolve over time, but this is simply misrepresentation.

His equation of business acumen with foreign policy experience is false. Not all lethal conflicts can be resolved as a real estate deal might, and there is no recourse to bankruptcy court in international affairs.

Mr. Trump’s own statements lead us to conclude that as president, he would use the authority of his office to act in ways that make America less safe, and which would diminish our standing in the world. Furthermore, his expansive view of how presidential power should be wielded against his detractors poses a distinct threat to civil liberty in the United States. Therefore, as committed and loyal Republicans, we are unable to support a Party ticket with Mr. Trump at its head. We commit ourselves to working energetically to prevent the election of someone so utterly unfitted to the office.

 

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Re: GOP split over accepting Trump
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2016, 05:38:18 pm »

The GOP will fight their own harder than they will ever fight a Democrat.
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Re: GOP split over accepting Trump
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2016, 06:10:55 pm »
...perhaps it's time for the establishment to realize, if they don't rally around Cruz, they WILL have Trump and potentially lose the White House.  But with Cruz so feared because they know he won't play their game, I do see this going to a brokered convention and chances are they are going to put in who they want anyways; Bush, Romney, Ryan, Rubio, etc.  The hell with who the people want.

True.

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Re: GOP split over accepting Trump
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2016, 06:17:00 pm »
Civil Wars tend to be bloodier than any other type.

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Re: GOP split over accepting Trump
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2016, 06:18:06 pm »
The GOP will fight their own harder than they will ever fight a Democrat.

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