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It will be interesting to see the Republican Party try to take down its own candidate, thus assuring the Democrats a victory. If that indeed does happen, I predict that the history books will cite this election as the end of the GOP.

Desperate times call for desperate measures, and there is palpable panic in the Republican ranks right now. The juggernaut that is Donald Trump has done what the establishment Republicans thought could never happen; and it looks like he has steamrolled his way to the Republican presidential nomination.

Just to make things clear, I am not declaring loyalty to any candidate; I am just objectively looking at where we are, and the wind is definitely at Trump’s back. No matter what he does, what he says or how he acts, nothing seems to deter the 40-plus percent of the American people who are solidly locked and loaded for “The Donald.”

The big question hanging in the air right now after the last debate when Rubio and Cruz finally took off the gloves and pummeled Trump is: “What took you so long?” And now, it looks like it is too little, too late. The bottom line is that the arrogance and narcissism of the GOP elites has backfired this time, and what they thought could never, ever happen has (gulp) happened.

How could they not see it coming? What was it that kept them blindly thinking that they could control the narrative and push their chosen establishment candidate over the finish line? They are not stupid; they are just arrogant and entitled, with a superior attitude that says just because they hold the power and control, things will naturally go their way. After all, it almost always has, hasn’t it?

The elites turned a blind eye and ignored the (pardon the pun) big elephant in the room: the discontented American people who were screaming at the top of their lungs, running to the ballot box, starting the tea party movement and throwing out establishment candidates like Sen. Bob Bennett who made way for Sen. Mike Lee. They kept living in denial year after year and still were delusional when Donald Trump entered the race in 2015 to overwhelming support from the American people. I was in many a backstage “green room” listening to the elites laughing and joking about Trump. “He’s a joke”; “he can never win”; “just wait, you’ll see, he will implode tomorrow.” They just couldn’t see his appeal. They couldn’t see the people’s anger, and they couldn’t see their own demise.

For the past few years, Ann-Marie Murrell, Dr. Gina Loudon and I have traveled across this country, spoken to countless groups of fed-up Americans and had a conversation with “real folks” about what the average American wants. The overwhelming comments we heard were about the Republican leadership and representatives not hearing them and refusing to have a backbone when it came to crucial issues that concerned them. The anger and disgust was brewing years ago, and it continued to fester and boil when time and time again they were dismissed and ignored as though they didn’t matter at all. With each cave by the Republicans on Obamacare, immigration, Planned Parenthood and countless other issues, the anger grew and grew until it boiled over so that when the politically incorrect Trump took the stage they saw a political “savior.”

So now, at the 11th hour, the GOP establishment and big donors are scrambling. They have finally awakened from their arrogant stupor and realized that Trump is sweeping the floor with them. They can’t understand how their golden boy Bush never got any traction, and now they can’t seem to pump Rubio up enough to even win his own state of Florida where Trump is trouncing him. They have no choice but to start the dirty tricks and smear campaigning to take Trump out – but it might be too late.

There is talk of a brokered convention, also rumors of Mitt Romney possibly jumping in. Mitch McConnell is gathering together his Senate members and telling them that if Trump secures the nomination they can “drop him like a hot rock.” They believe that Trump doesn’t stand a chance against Hillary, so they would rather destroy Trump and hold the Senate rather than stand behind their candidate. Once again, they are stupid and arrogant. They can’t see that Trump is winning with many union and blue collar workers, and he now has Chris Christie by his side. They also fail to notice that the Republican turnout in the primaries is far greater than the Democrats – and with Bernie Sanders out, the apathy for Hillary will grow. Those “feeling the Bern” will probably stay home or go and vote for Trump. Sure, there will be people who absolutely will not vote for Trump, but there are many, many more who absolutely will.

Will Bush’s super PAC Right to Rise go all out and use their leftover money to try and demolish Trump? They could, but it would probably backfire on them. The establishment is frantically trying to figure out a way to derail Trump, but their problem is that they only have Cruz and Rubio as viable alternatives. They hate Cruz maybe more than Trump, and Rubio just isn’t cutting it. They seem to think that if and when Kasich drops out Rubio will rise. I highly doubt it. I think it is clear to the American people that Rubio is all-in with the establishment, and he has probably reached his ceiling.

It will be interesting to see the Republican Party try to take down its own candidate, thus assuring the Democrats a victory. If that indeed does happen, I predict that the history books will cite this election as the end of the GOP.

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This isn't a battle between Trumpism and the "establishment", it's a battle for the soul of the GOP - will we be a conservative party dedicated to limited government and individual liberty, or an ethnic nationalist party that buys into the permanance and expansion of the entitlement state? 

One doesn't need to be a member of the "establishment" to oppose big government liberalism with a dash of bigotry and xenophobia to separate it from the Dems.
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This isn't a battle between Trumpism and the "establishment", it's a battle for the soul of the GOP - will we be a conservative party dedicated to limited government and individual liberty, or an ethnic nationalist party that buys into the permanance and expansion of the entitlement state? 

One doesn't need to be a member of the "establishment" to oppose big government liberalism with a dash of bigotry and xenophobia to separate it from the Dems.

  :odrama:

Do you actually believe this hyperbole?

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  :odrama:

Do you actually believe this hyperbole?

I do, because I listen to what Trump says.  You don't, apparently, because you support Trump in spite of what he says.   

My viewpoint above is not dissimilar to Rich Lowry's, who argues that Trumpism would bring the GOP into congruence with European political parties that almost uniformly defend and seek the expansion of the entitlement state.   What makes the GOP unique in the Western world, he argues, is its dedication to limiting the further expansion of big government.   When that uniqueness is cast aside,  the Republican and Democratic parties will indeed be the "uniparty", with the key difference between them the Trump-GOP's nativism and xenophobia.   
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Jazzhead writes above:
"...a battle for the soul of the GOP - will we be a conservative party dedicated to limited government and individual liberty, or an ethnic nationalist party that buys into the permanence and expansion of the entitlement state?"

I'll take what's emphasized, thank you very much.

That's what "The United States" actually -was- for almost 200 years, with immigration laws purposely designed to protect that "ethnicity" so that there would -be- enough "nationalism" to maintain a "United States" that represented the natural progression of Christian/Euro values.

And if you don't like that, too bad.
That is all...

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What makes the GOP unique in the Western world, he argues, is its dedication to limiting the further expansion of big government. 

What are you talking about?  Have you seen the budget the unique GOP Congress just passed??  Name one social program the unique GOP Congress has cut or eliminated.  When was the last tax cut passed by the unique GOP Congress? 

How do you define "limiting the further expansion of government"?

God help us.   :facepalm2: 

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Jazzhead writes above:
"...a battle for the soul of the GOP - will we be a conservative party dedicated to limited government and individual liberty, or an ethnic nationalist party that buys into the permanence and expansion of the entitlement state?"

I'll take what's emphasized, thank you very much.

That's what "The United States" actually -was- for almost 200 years, with immigration laws purposely designed to protect that "ethnicity" so that there would -be- enough "nationalism" to maintain a "United States" that represented the natural progression of Christian/Euro values.

And if you don't like that, too bad.
That is all...

Slavery protected "ethnicity" too.
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What are you talking about?  Have you seen the budget the unique GOP Congress just passed??  Name one social program the unique GOP Congress has cut or eliminated.  When was the last tax cut passed by the unique GOP Congress? 

How do you define "limiting the further expansion of government"?

God help us.   :facepalm2:

Well, we know one thing for sure:  Donald Trump has declared that no entitlement program will be touched in his administration.

For sure, he's no limited government guy.
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Since you jumped into this, Sink, how about you answer the questions I asked (see the quote below).  Check the back of your GOPe membership card--I'm sure you'll find helpful talking points there.

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What are you talking about?  Have you seen the budget the unique GOP Congress just passed??  Name one social program the unique GOP Congress has cut or eliminated.  When was the last tax cut passed by the unique GOP Congress? 

How do you define "limiting the further expansion of government"?


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Since you jumped into this, Sink, how about you answer the questions I asked (see the quote below).  Check the back of your GOPe membership card--I'm sure you'll find helpful talking points there.

One thing I know: Trump will grow government more than the GOP Congress has grown it, exponentially.

You want to change the subject.  Trump is a big government guy.  Hillary's a big government girl.  So we're screwed either way.
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Well, we know one thing for sure:  Donald Trump has declared that no entitlement program will be touched in his administration.

For sure, he's no limited government guy.

I assume that includes the Obamacare subsidies as well.

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Whoa......this is a first.  You're unable to defend your GOPe's role in containing the growth of government.

The first time's always the hardest, big guy.   I'm proud of you!    :bighug:

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Whoa......this is a first.  You're unable to defend your GOPe's role in containing the growth of government.

The first time's always the hardest, big guy.   I'm proud of you!    :bighug:

No ma'm.  YOU can't defend Trump's refusal to address entitlements.

With a GOP president who was willing, A Republican Congress could reform Social Security and Medicare, which would reduce the growth of government. 

Maybe that's negotiable too. It seems every position Trump has is negotiable.
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No ma'm.  YOU can't defend Trump's refusal to address entitlements.

With a GOP president who was willing, A Republican Congress could reform Social Security and Medicare, which would reduce the growth of government. 

Maybe that's negotiable too. It seems every position Trump has is negotiable.

ok i'll bite!  You can address them all day long, but there is only one person that is going to shrink govt and that is Trump.

He is going in and cut out the waste, or did you miss him discussing this at length last week?

What is Lil marco going to do except bendover for the donors trying to scratch him to the top :seeya:


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Just to make things clear, I am not declaring loyalty to any candidate; I am just objectively looking at where we are, and the wind is definitely at Trump’s back. No matter what he does, what he says or how he acts, nothing seems to deter the 40-plus percent of the American people who are solidly locked and loaded for “The Donald.”

Okay, this just made the article a falsehood.

40% of the voters who vote in the GOP primary have chosen Trump.  That is far less than the total number of GOP voters who vote in the general... let alone the total number of US voters.

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ok i'll bite!  You can address them all day long, but there is only one person that is going to shrink govt and that is Trump.

He is going in and cut out the waste, or did you miss him discussing this at length last week?
ush tried SS reform and got sh
What is Lil marco going to do except bendover for the donors trying to scratch him to the top :seeya:

Neither party has reduced entitlements. Pushing that Trump would not do so as a negative is ridiculous. GW Bush tried SS reform and got shot down by both parties.

The idea the GOP as it has behaved the last few decades is for small government is one of many manipulations of public opinion not backed by reality.
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Like wow, I've seen several times this desire of some here for protecting the "ethnicity" of the United States. Yeah, Fishrrman I don't like it and it is the same statements found in the White Supremacist Groups literature.
Could you list the members on this site that have stated that?

Let's see how many there are in your category of "some here." Name names and show quotes.

There is a whole lot of dishonesty going on these days.
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There is a whole lot of dishonesty going on these days.

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It is frustrated and dashed hopes that Marco Rubio is not the new JFK.  Not the Cuban and Mexican liberator he promised to be.