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STATEMENT FROM THE LAVOY FINICUM FAMILY 1-29-2016
« on: January 31, 2016, 04:15:34 pm »

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STATEMENT FROM THE LAVOY FINICUM FAMILY 1-29-2016

We know that there are always at least two sides to every story. We also know and recognize that the FBI and law enforcement agencies involved will do everything in their power to make it appear as if the needless death of our husband, father, grandfather, brother and son, LaVoy Finicum, was justified.

Like almost everyone else, we were not there, so we don’t know exactly what happened. Like most others, we have no choice but to rely on other sources of information. One of those sources of information is the account of Victoria Sharp. Another piece of information is the video recently released by the FBI, along with the FBI’s chosen narrative of what happened. In response to this information, we would like to make a few observations.

The first observation is that from what we understand, the occupation was on track toward a peaceful resolution. LaVoy and those he was with were en route to a public meeting in an adjoining county when they were stopped in something far different than a “routine traffic stop,” as has been portrayed by the media. Unfortunately, the powers that be were not interested in being patient enough for the occupation to come to a peaceful end. Some had called for LaVoy and those he was with to simply be gunned down, just as he was, with no due process. Oregon Governor, Kate Brown, was putting pressure on the FBI to end it sooner rather than later. The Harney County Sheriff’s Department working in conjunction with the FBI tried to do everything they could to emphasize how disruptive the occupation was to the local community, when in reality it appears to have been their own reaction that was causing most of the disruption. And it was the FBI that chose to escalate the situation to force a confrontation, and violent ending.

With respect to the actual facts and circumstances surrounding LaVoy’s death, the video really speaks for itself. People will interpret it according to their own views. As the FBI’s own narrative stated, LaVoy was not wielding a firearm or any other weapon when he was killed. His hands were obviously in the air. Knowing LaVoy, it is our view that he was moving away from the vehicle in an attempt to draw any hostility or violence away from the others. Unfortunately, we don’t know what he was saying, and what was being said to him. He appears to have been gesturing, or trying to keep his balance while moving in the deep snow. Although he may have been animated, he does not appear to have been threatening or posing any real threat or danger to anyone. The FBI claims that LaVoy had a loaded firearm in an inside pocket of his coat. After re- reviewing the extended video, at this point we are not accepting at face value the FBI’s statement that LaVoy was actually armed. But even if he was, as far as we can see, that firearm posed no more danger to anyone than it would have if he had stayed in the vehicle, with his hands on the steering wheel. Contrary to what has been stated by some sources, LaVoy was not “charging” anyone. He appears to have been shot in the back, with his hands in the air.

It is our understanding that according to applicable law, the use of deadly force is justified only if there is a genuine threat of death or serious bodily injury. It is our understanding and position that deadly force should only be used as a last resort. In LaVoy’s case it appears that they were determined to go straight to the last resort. It is our understanding that the U.S. Supreme Court and Ninth Circuit Court of appeals have ruled as follows:

“The reasonableness of [officers’] actions depends both on whether the officers were in danger at the precise moment that they used force and on whether [the officers’] own reckless or deliberate conduct during the seizure unreasonably created the need to use such force.” “[W]here an officer intentionally or recklessly provokes a violent confrontation . . . he may be held liable for his otherwise defensive use of deadly force.” Although officers may claim self-defense, they may still be liable for using excessive force if their reckless and unconstitutional actions create the need to use excessive force.

It is our understanding that in addition to shooting LaVoy multiple times, after he was left lying harmlessly on the ground the officers also fired upon his truck and the passengers in it, putting them all at risk, despite the fact that they were posing no threat to anyone. The video clearly shows one of the windows being blown out. It has been gut- wrenching for our family to view the video of LaVoy being shot, and then left to lie in the snow while a whole army of so-called “public servants” terrorized the others. We can only hope their families never have to watch such a thing. We will be interested to inspect the vehicle. We will also be interested to see the autopsy report.


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Re: STATEMENT FROM THE LAVOY FINICUM FAMILY 1-29-2016
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2016, 05:42:37 pm »
The statement seems to be fair and reasonable. Watching the video without sound and more context, it is hard to condemn or exonerate  law enforcement for their actions. My own sense is they didn't have to fire at the time they did however he made a number of poor decisions that culminated in his death and that part is on him.

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Re: STATEMENT FROM THE LAVOY FINICUM FAMILY 1-29-2016
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2016, 05:53:38 pm »
The statement seems to be fair and reasonable. Watching the video without sound and more context, it is hard to condemn or exonerate  law enforcement for their actions. My own sense is they didn't have to fire at the time they did however he made a number of poor decisions that culminated in his death and that part is on him.

Reasonable. I believe he wanted to have a showdown with LE. He wrote about it, and he stated in an interview he would die, before going to jail.

He drove away from the first stop. He tried to evade the second stop.

When his arms came down, it could be to scratch his privates, or to go for his pistol. But the preceding behavior has LE primed to respond aggressively.
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Re: STATEMENT FROM THE LAVOY FINICUM FAMILY 1-29-2016
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2016, 06:07:19 pm »
Reasonable. I believe he wanted to have a showdown with LE. He wrote about it, and he stated in an interview he would die, before going to jail.

He drove away from the first stop. He tried to evade the second stop.

When his arms came down, it could be to scratch his privates, or to go for his pistol. But the preceding behavior has LE primed to respond aggressively.
I suspect there may be other explanations on his movements but be that as it may, there are clear standards for the use of deadly force and the question is were they adhered to. I agree that his own actions played a role in the outcome but the question of the shooting itself remains. I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that after an investigation this will be ruled a good shoot but for me that only raises more questions.