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Offline EdinVA

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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #175 on: January 27, 2016, 03:40:06 pm »
Sorry, Ed, but in spite of your attempt to elevate this, Trump is refusing to go to the debate because he said Megyn Kelly isn't "FAIR."

That's not courage by ANY definition.

In fact, it's at the extreme opposite end of the spectrum.

And going along to get along and doing what the media tells you is your definition of courage?

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« Reply #176 on: January 27, 2016, 03:41:51 pm »
And going along to get along and doing what the media tells you is your definition of courage?

Two different issues.

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« Reply #177 on: January 27, 2016, 03:42:51 pm »
Two different issues.

Two different issues?
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« Reply #178 on: January 27, 2016, 03:44:07 pm »
And going along to get along and doing what the media tells you is your definition of courage?

If that had anything to do with Trump's decision, I might agree with you, but he stated his reason.

Megyn Kelly isn't "FAIR" and Trump doesn't "LIKE" her.

There is nothing admirable about this move at all.

(And if you really think Trump has problems with the media, I've got waterfront property in Arizona for you.  He's using the media, he supports the media, he LOVES the media because all they care about now is him).
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« Reply #179 on: January 27, 2016, 03:44:33 pm »
Two different issues.

Very much different issues.  No correlation whatsoever.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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« Reply #180 on: January 27, 2016, 03:46:15 pm »
The one thin you can say bout Trump is he not only threw away the "How to Campaign for Office" play book but he shreaded the hell out of it.   :shrug:

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« Reply #181 on: January 27, 2016, 03:49:16 pm »
The one thin you can say bout Trump is he not only threw away the "How to Campaign for Office" play book but he shreaded the hell out of it.   :shrug:

One might say that he "Alinsky'd" it.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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« Reply #182 on: January 27, 2016, 03:54:43 pm »

Seven months of Donald Trump defying political gravity, saying and doing things that would disqualify a lesser candidate. Yet, he makes it work. And now that he's skipping this debate tomorrow because he's clearly afraid of Megyn Kelly, right? Well, now he's finished as a candidate.

Shall we check back on this issue, say around mid February?

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« Reply #183 on: January 27, 2016, 03:54:44 pm »

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Per Trump source: Trump's position now is he is chairman of his company and he will only deal with Murdoch at a chairman-to-chairman level


8:34 PM - 26 Jan 2016

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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #184 on: January 27, 2016, 03:56:31 pm »

Afraid to face the truth? Donald J Trump = Ronald Wilson Reagan.


Good God, you're deluded. 

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« Reply #185 on: January 27, 2016, 03:58:09 pm »
Gabriel Sherman
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Per Trump source: Trump's position now is he is chairman of his company and he will only deal with Murdoch at a chairman-to-chairman level


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« Reply #186 on: January 27, 2016, 04:06:18 pm »
He uses the media – plays them like a fiddle.  Same so with his followers,  which he sees as little yellow minions - who will gladly  follow him into Hell, and he knows it. Why else would he make a statement that they would love him even if he shot people down in the street.  In normal circumstances that would  be taken as a huge insult of their intelligence, and they would be outraged.    An insult of his supporters and bigger still an assault on the premise that the President is the Servant of the People,  not the other way around.  I really thought that was the reason the Right was upset with the “GOP establishment”, because they were no longer representing the people, but instead lobbyist, and their own gains.  And the answer to that is Trump?    Dear God, people,  Wake Up before it is too late.
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« Reply #187 on: January 27, 2016, 04:12:51 pm »
Good God, you're deluded.

I was being deliberately provocative. My point was Donald Trump is doing what other candidates have done and yet went on to win office despite their no show.

By the way Ronald Reagan was first a Democrat and worked many years on left wing causes, much longer than the few years Donald Trump was registered democrat (for business reasons in New York).

And yet, my guess is you voted for Ronaldus Reagan, who signed the Therapeutic Abortion bill as governor, who granted amnesty to millions of illegals, who worked closely with democrat Tip O'Neill, who raised taxes. Etc. you get the point.

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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #188 on: January 27, 2016, 04:16:17 pm »
Seven months of Donald Trump defying political gravity, saying and doing things that would disqualify a lesser candidate. Yet, he makes it work. And now that he's skipping this debate tomorrow because he's clearly afraid of Megyn Kelly, right? Well, now he's finished as a candidate.

Shall we check back on this issue, say around mid February?

The funny thing is many think this is about Knee Pad Kelly and TRUMP. Kelly is just a Pawn. You do not become successful in any business without Planning and having the ability to Execute. TRUMP just sat back and waited for the right time, set them up and Executed perfectly. A BRILLANT THING TO WATCH. 6 days to IA and guess who controls the conservation? Hit it is not CRUZ or BUSHIE? :2gunz:

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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #189 on: January 27, 2016, 04:17:09 pm »
He uses the media – plays them like a fiddle.  Same so with his followers,  which he sees as little yellow minions - who will gladly  follow him into Hell, and he knows it. Why else would he make a statement that they would love him even if he shot people down in the street.  In normal circumstances that would  be taken as a huge insult of their intelligence, and they would be outraged.    An insult of his supporters and bigger still an assault on the premise that the President is the Servant of the People,  not the other way around.  I really thought that was the reason the Right was upset with the “GOP establishment”, because they were no longer representing the people, but instead lobbyist, and their own gains.  And the answer to that is Trump?    Dear God, people,  Wake Up before it is too late.

Apparently his supporters enjoy having their collective intelligence insulted.  And also enjoy the fact that Trump will not even remotely attempt to "represent the people."

They want a bully.  A tough guy.  A lobbyist.

(Who is afraid of girls).
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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« Reply #190 on: January 27, 2016, 04:20:25 pm »
I was being deliberately provocative. My point was Donald Trump is doing what other candidates have done and yet went on to win office despite their no show.

By the way Ronald Reagan was first a Democrat and worked many years on left wing causes, much longer than the few years Donald Trump was registered democrat (for business reasons in New York).

And yet, my guess is you voted for Ronaldus Reagan, who signed the Therapeutic Abortion bill as governor, who granted amnesty to millions of illegals, who worked closely with democrat Tip O'Neill, who raised taxes. Etc. you get the point.

Don't forget Reagan was also a vocal opponent of CA's Prop 6 in 1978.
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #191 on: January 27, 2016, 04:22:42 pm »
I can no longer add or detract from this conversation except to say the other candidates have an interesting opportunity.  I'd try to make it as a slight to the voter and less about Kelly.  But, that's me.  What the hell do I know?

I just hope for the best.  Divinity inspired this place.  I pray it continues. 

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« Reply #192 on: January 27, 2016, 04:28:19 pm »
Apparently his supporters enjoy having their collective intelligence insulted.  And also enjoy the fact that Trump will not even remotely attempt to "represent the people."

They want a bully.  A tough guy.  A lobbyist.

(Who is afraid of girls).

Excellent synopsis! I concur!

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« Reply #193 on: January 27, 2016, 04:32:38 pm »
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #194 on: January 27, 2016, 04:39:36 pm »
I can no longer add or detract from this conversation except to say the other candidates have an interesting opportunity.  I'd try to make it as a slight to the voter and less about Kelly.  But, that's me.  What the hell do I know?

I just hope for the best.  Divinity inspired this place.  I pray it continues. 

Best to all!

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We all need to pray hard, that is for sure!

God will show the way.

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« Reply #195 on: January 27, 2016, 04:41:33 pm »
:beer:

We all need to pray hard, that is for sure!

God will show the way.

God will.  We just have to have the honesty and courage to see it.

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« Reply #196 on: January 27, 2016, 04:41:44 pm »
This is a rather good test, in a rather tough environment (Iowa), of whether or not Trump's very different campaign paradigm (for lack of a better word off the top of my head) actually works in the end result.  Many here, myself included, have applauded him taking the reigns and driving the conversation and driving the interest - seemingly overwhelming all the other candidates in the process.  That itself is a far cry from the mundane, sleepy campaigns - should I say lame? - that Republicans have run literally for decades (with the one notable exception of Newt in 1994).  Instead of forcing people to vote against Democrats, he has at least attempted to take the initiative entirely, literally boxing everyone else out, with bravado.  But to say it is different isn't to say it will actually work in the end.  This is an excellent test of that - if he loses momentum in Iowa then he (and we) knows he needs to back off on the gas pedal, that there are limits to his method and that he can over-reach (unlike what he said earlier this week about 5th avenue).  If he wins Iowa after this, and his margin holds, then that tells something very interesting as well, especially as this is a weaker state for him.  I've maintained that his appeal is not just the result of the last two presidents turning off older people, but that this method is "generational" as well - using tactics and communication techniques that work for the 21st century techno-audience.  This is a damned good test of that.

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« Reply #197 on: January 27, 2016, 04:46:18 pm »

Positively Reaganesque, isn't he?  :chairbang:
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« Reply #198 on: January 27, 2016, 04:48:28 pm »
The desperate attempts to compare Trump with Reagan are jaw-dropping....   **nononono*
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #199 on: January 27, 2016, 04:51:37 pm »
Who here says they "hate FOX"?    :shrug:

Don't you know? Hating Fox is one of the standard "true conservative" positions, along with not watching television, not going to movies, several brand boycotts, etc.
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