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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #150 on: January 27, 2016, 01:30:29 pm »
Quote from: Scottftlc on January 27, 2016, 04:22:06 am
Well, this is absolutely fascinating!  Get the popcorn out.  Roger Ailes doubled down tonight with quite a nasty-gram to go with his nasty-gram from earlier.  First National Review now Fox News.  It will be interesting how Trump fires back, I expect when he does it won't lack for boldness.  Fox is out there pretty far on a limb too, will their audience hold up?  Or will peace be made?

CNN has been all Trump all the time for the last three hours.  They are having a Trump love fest. The media is not a monolith, there is always an outlet that will love when a competitor is in a kerfuffle.

Damned entertaining, most entertaining campaign in memory...usually they are dull as dry toast.

Exactly as I suggested on page 1.    :laugh:  He's a freaking marketing genius.
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #151 on: January 27, 2016, 02:02:38 pm »
He rebukes the networks for making millions while boasting of his billions. Oh...
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #152 on: January 27, 2016, 02:19:22 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on January 27, 2016, 02:02:38 pm
He rebukes the networks for making millions while boasting of his billions. Oh...

A veritable walking contradictory conundrum.
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #153 on: January 27, 2016, 02:32:39 pm »
Quote from: Lando Lincoln on January 27, 2016, 02:02:38 pm
He rebukes the networks for making millions while boasting of his billions. Oh...

Consistency and truth have no bearing on Donald Trump's life or words.
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #154 on: January 27, 2016, 02:33:08 pm »
Quote from: NavyCanDo on January 27, 2016, 03:40:41 am
What debate did not have gotcha questions or biased moderators?  And we complained. Candidates complained.  But I don't remember any of them pouting about it and running away. Until now.

Not to shock anyone, but presidential campaigns employ strategic thinking. At the heart of that is the question, do debates make a difference?

Other candidates before have skipped debates. Some have even faired well despite their refusals to debate. Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter all had refused debate.

Ronald Reagan skipped the last debate before the Iowa caucuses in 1980. He lost Iowa to George HW Bush, but went on to win the primary and a general election landslide victory.

Perhaps Trump has reasoned he can take a page from Reagan's history and make it work for him.
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #155 on: January 27, 2016, 02:37:28 pm »
I finally figured out who he reminds me of!  Jesse Ventura.



Same flashiness, same approach to media and potential voters, same weirdly fascinating charisma, same inexplicable vindictiveness to those whom he perceives as a threat.
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #156 on: January 27, 2016, 02:46:46 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on January 27, 2016, 02:37:28 pm
I finally figured out who he reminds me of!  Jesse Ventura.



Same flashiness, same approach to media and potential voters, same weirdly fascinating charisma, same inexplicable vindictiveness to those whom he perceives as a threat.

LOL! Perfect!  :beer:
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #157 on: January 27, 2016, 02:47:22 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on January 27, 2016, 01:29:35 pm
Exactly ... Trump is still whining.  8888crybaby

Was Reagan whining when he refused to debate George HW Bush before the Iowa caucuses in 1980? Was he afraid to debate George HW Bush? Was Reagan disrespecting the voters of Iowa, as Ted Cruz accused Donald Trump of doing?

No, he wasn't. His campaign calculated they didn't need the debate for Reagan to win.

Hyperbole and phony outrage aside, this may have been a very smart move on the part of Donald Trump.
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #158 on: January 27, 2016, 02:50:04 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 27, 2016, 02:47:22 pm
Was Reagan whining when he refused to debate George HW Bush before the Iowa caucuses in 1980? Was he afraid to debate George HW Bush? Was Reagan disrespecting the voters of Iowa, as Ted Cruz accused Donald Trump of doing?

No, he wasn't. His campaign calculated they didn't need the debate for Reagan to win.

Hyperbole and phony outrage aside, this may have been a very smart move on the part of Donald Trump.

We'll soon see how good the TRump folks are at political calculus won't we!

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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #159 on: January 27, 2016, 02:56:30 pm »
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #160 on: January 27, 2016, 02:59:02 pm »
The big, bad Donald is afraid of girls.  Who knew??   :silly:
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #161 on: January 27, 2016, 02:59:48 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on January 27, 2016, 02:56:30 pm


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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #162 on: January 27, 2016, 03:05:06 pm »
aligncare - Trump says he isn't going to the debate because Megyn Kelly wasn't "FAIR" to him.

THIS is the man you really want to lead the country?

This whole idiocy reinforces the fact that bullies are always insecure.  He's afraid, he's needy, he's pathetic.

But he IS getting more attention, and that's what he clearly needs.



PATHETIC.
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #163 on: January 27, 2016, 03:06:43 pm »
I'll stand by my assessment.  Not only is Trump a whiner, he is a liberal coward.  Afraid to debate Cruz and afraid of Megyn Kelly.  :silly:
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #164 on: January 27, 2016, 03:06:58 pm »
Oh........... and I'm hoping against hope that he finally is being honest about not showing up, and we can watch an adult debate for a change.

Of course, he's probably lying................ AGAIN.

Just a publicity stunt............................  AGAIN.


He's pathetic with a capital P.
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #165 on: January 27, 2016, 03:07:12 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 27, 2016, 02:47:22 pm
Was Reagan whining when he refused to debate George HW Bush before the Iowa caucuses in 1980? Was he afraid to debate George HW Bush? Was Reagan disrespecting the voters of Iowa, as Ted Cruz accused Donald Trump of doing?

No, he wasn't. His campaign calculated they didn't need the debate for Reagan to win.

Hyperbole and phony outrage aside, this may have been a very smart move on the part of Donald Trump.

From what I've read so far (and when I get off my phone and on a real computer I'll check), Reagan skipping wasn't due to a calculation or a tantrum over a moderator but due to weather. He was in Chicago or some sort that morning and the airports had bad delays due to snow. (this is from internet comments I've read in response to articles so take that for what its worth...)
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #166 on: January 27, 2016, 03:08:06 pm »
It will be interesting to see how the other candidates handle his absence. 
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #167 on: January 27, 2016, 03:09:34 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on January 27, 2016, 02:46:46 pm
LOL! Perfect!  :beer:

Yes.  Yes, it is.
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #168 on: January 27, 2016, 03:12:20 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 27, 2016, 02:33:08 pm
Not to shock anyone, but presidential campaigns employ strategic thinking. At the heart of that is the question, do debates make a difference?

Other candidates before have skipped debates. Some have even faired well despite their refusals to debate. Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter all had refused debate.

Ronald Reagan skipped the last debate before the Iowa caucuses in 1980. He lost Iowa to George HW Bush, but went on to win the primary and a general election landslide victory.

Perhaps Trump has reasoned he can take a page from Reagan's history and make it work for him.

It is troubling to me that people are so willing to accept the media dictating the who, when where and how of our presidential elections.
Just more of the old go along to get along, don't stand up for what you believe you have too much to lose.....
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« Reply #169 on: January 27, 2016, 03:15:23 pm »

I post facts, like the fact that Ronald Ragan skipped the last debate before the Iowa caucuses in 1980, and all I get back from you'all in return is emotional hyperbole.

No one sees fit to comment on the fact that Ronald Reagan did the exact same same thing as Donald Trump is now doing.

Crickets, people, crickets. Afraid to face the truth? Donald J Trump = Ronald Wilson Reagan.

(maybe that'll get a response from the cowards afraid to debate me on this point)

Anyone up to the challenge?

I thought not.



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« Reply #170 on: January 27, 2016, 03:18:27 pm »

Yeah, that's it. It was snowing in Iowa. That's what kept Reagan from coming to the debate.

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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #171 on: January 27, 2016, 03:19:07 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 27, 2016, 03:15:23 pm
I post facts, like the fact that Ronald Ragan skipped the last debate before the Iowa caucuses in 1980, and all I get back from you'all in return is emotional hyperbole.

No one sees fit to comment on the fact that Ronald Reagan did the exact same same thing as Donald Trump is now doing.

Crickets, people, crickets. Afraid to face the truth? Donald J Trump = Ronald Wilson Reagan.

(maybe that'll get a response from the cowards afraid to debate me on this point)

Anyone up to the challenge?

I thought not.

Yes Reagan skipped that debate but it sure as hell wasn't because he was afraid of a moderator or anyone else on that stage!

There is the difference!

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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #172 on: January 27, 2016, 03:19:59 pm »
Quote from: EdinVA on January 27, 2016, 03:12:20 pm
It is troubling to me that people are so willing to accept the media dictating the who, when where and how of our presidential elections.
Just more of the old go along to get along, don't stand up for what you believe you have too much to lose.....
Arlington National Cemetery is full of people who had the courage to stand up for what is right...

Sorry, Ed, but in spite of your attempt to elevate this, Trump is refusing to go to the debate because he said Megyn Kelly isn't "FAIR."

That's not courage by ANY definition.

In fact, it's at the extreme opposite end of the spectrum.

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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #173 on: January 27, 2016, 03:21:24 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on January 27, 2016, 03:19:07 pm
Yes Reagan skipped that debate but it sure as hell wasn't because he was afraid of a moderator or anyone else on that stage!

There is the difference!

That doesn't matter.  Reagan skipped a debate.  Trump skips a debate.  They're equal.   **nononono*
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Re: Trump Won't do Debate
« Reply #174 on: January 27, 2016, 03:33:24 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on January 27, 2016, 03:15:23 pm
I post facts, like the fact that Ronald Ragan skipped the last debate before the Iowa caucuses in 1980, and all I get back from you'all in return is emotional hyperbole.

No one sees fit to comment on the fact that Ronald Reagan did the exact same same thing as Donald Trump is now doing.

Crickets, people, crickets. Afraid to face the truth? Donald J Trump = Ronald Wilson Reagan.

(maybe that'll get a response from the cowards afraid to debate me on this point)

Anyone up to the challenge?

I thought not.

And what happened when Reagan skipped the debate for whatever reason?

Bush won and grabbed the momentum. If Reagan hadn't got damned lucky in the NH debate, he'd have likely lost the nomination.

Hang on - why the hell am I complaining?
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