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The truth about gun deaths: numbers and actual solutions
« on: October 05, 2015, 01:41:18 pm »
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The truth about gun deaths: numbers and actual solutions
posted at 9:31 am on October 4, 2015 by Jazz Shaw

   

When the President went on television after the Oregon college mass shooting he issued a challenge to the media. He asked them to show America the number of gun deaths as compared to the number of terrorism related deaths since the 9/11 attacks. The media dutifully complied and soon every network, newspaper and magazine was putting up startling graphics, such as this one tweeted by CNN.



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Re: The truth about gun deaths: numbers and actual solutions
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2015, 01:44:31 pm »
 
What... media lying again?  Oh my...
 
                                     

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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2015, 02:54:23 pm »
If they were serious about trying to lessen these occurrences, they would 1) stop continuously showing the photo and saying the name of the shooter, and (2) ALWAYS and continuously state that the shootings occurred in a "gun-free zone".


It's as if the mainstream media WANTS more of these mass shootings.   :whistle:
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Re: The truth about gun deaths: numbers and actual solutions
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2015, 03:00:10 pm »
The trick CNN performs here is to use actual data from the CDC, but conflates both causes and sources of violence to create the appearance of a nationwide phenomenon.

Because "gun violence", so-called, is anything but national in scope or scale. It is in fact highly concentrated in a handful of urban areas, and is predominantly a result of gang activity and drug crime.

Another trick is to lump together all causes of intentional firearms deaths, including unintentional death, homicide, legal intervention, undetermined intent and homicide followed by suicide.

For example, if you look at the chart cited by CNN, you'll see the claimed number of "gun violence" deaths in 2012 is 33,563. But the CDC actually reports 11,208 deaths for that year due to "assault (homicide) by discharge of firearm".*

Furthermore, those deaths were highly concentrated in a handful of urban zones located largely within Baltimore, MD; Washington, DC; Detroit, MI; Chicago, IL; Houston, TX and Miami, FL.  All of those areas have something in common - poor minority populations with high overall rates of gang-related crime, larceny, and drug abuse.

If you exclude such areas from the statistics representative of the rest of the country (i.e. - the vast majority of the United States), violence committed with firearms is not only rare, but exceptionally so given the high rate of gun ownership in the nation.

*Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf
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Re: The truth about gun deaths: numbers and actual solutions
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2015, 03:07:04 pm »
The trick CNN performs here is to use actual data from the CDC, but conflates both causes and sources of violence to create the appearance of a nationwide phenomenon.

Because "gun violence", so-called, is anything but national in scope or scale. It is in fact highly concentrated in a handful of urban areas, and is predominantly a result of gang activity and drug crime.

Another trick is to lump together all causes of intentional firearms deaths, including unintentional death, homicide, legal intervention, undetermined intent and homicide followed by suicide.

For example, if you look at the chart cited by CNN, you'll see the claimed number of "gun violence" deaths in 2012 is 33,563. But the CDC actually reports 11,208 deaths for that year due to "assault (homicide) by discharge of firearm".*

Furthermore, those deaths were highly concentrated in a handful of urban zones located largely within Baltimore, MD; Washington, DC; Detroit, MI; Chicago, IL; Houston, TX and Miami, FL.  All of those areas have something in common - poor minority populations with high overall rates of gang-related crime, larceny, and drug abuse.

If you exclude such areas from the statistics representative of the rest of the country (i.e. - the vast majority of the United States), violence committed with firearms is not only rare, but exceptionally so given the high rate of gun ownership in the nation.

*Source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Yet another example of your government and the media deliberately lying to you...

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