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Trump proposes massive one-time tax on the rich (1999)
« on: August 02, 2015, 03:00:51 am »
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/11/09/trump.rich/index.html?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS

Billionaire businessman Donald Trump has a plan to pay off the national debt, grant a middle class a tax cut, and keep Social Security afloat: tax rich people like himself. Trump, a prospective candidate for the Reform Party presidential nomination, is proposing a one-time "net worth tax" on individuals and trusts worth $10 million or more. By Trump's calculations, his proposed 14.25 percent levy on such net worth would raise $5.7 trillion and wipe out the debt in one fell swoop.
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Re: Trump proposes massive one-time tax on the rich (1999)
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2015, 05:04:11 pm »
Tapping into the populist belief once again - that the Rich don't pay their fair share, sounding more like Hillary, than Reagan.

And There are major problems with Trump's plan:

First, it is doubtful that the super-wealthy actually control as much as $40 trillion of assets ($40 trillion x 14.25 percent tax = $5.7 trillion). The latest Forbes magazine report on the richest 400 Americans places their entire wealth at approximately $1 trillion.
For example, according to Forbes, Bill Gates, Paul Allen and Steve Ballmer, all heavily invested in Microsoft, have a combined net worth of $148 billion. Assuming all their holdings were in Microsoft, they would be forced - in a short span of time - to unload stock worth $21 billion under Trump's plan.

the  biggest obstacle to this and every other radical tax plan - whether it is the flat tax or national sales tax - is the general mistrust of government.

Remember the Tax Reform Act of 1986, which reduced income tax rates and eliminated the capital gains deduction? Congress failed to honor that tax reform legislation and has changed the law almost every year since its enactment.

Who knows whether Trump's one-time wealth tax would never be repeated? Who has confidence that a future Congress would not reactivate the estate tax?

In conclusion, paying off the national debt by soaking the super-rich sounds appealing, but - like other radical tax proposals - it should be considered another political ploy aimed at voters' emotions rather than a solid tax proposal grounded in economic reality.
 
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Re: Trump proposes massive one-time tax on the rich (1999)
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2015, 05:19:30 pm »
Really, 1999?  Grasping at straws a bit are we?

So you have not changed your thoughts or opinions over the span of nearly 20 years?

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Re: Trump proposes massive one-time tax on the rich (1999)
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2015, 06:35:40 pm »
Yes that was 1999, but I sure would like to see somebody ask him this question. You in 1999 proposed a one-time massive Tax on the rich to pay off the National Debt. Do you know believe that would have been a mistake?

May as well ask him about him supporting a ban on semi-auto "assault" weapons and a longer waiting period, which in 1999 was his position.
Also from 1999, Trump Favors abortion rights but respects opposition.



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Re: Trump proposes massive one-time tax on the rich (1999)
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2015, 06:51:21 pm »
Yes that was 1999, but I sure would like to see somebody ask him this question. You in 1999 proposed a one-time massive Tax on the rich to pay off the National Debt. Do you know believe that would have been a mistake?

May as well ask him about him supporting a ban on semi-auto "assault" weapons and a longer waiting period, which in 1999 was his position.
Also from 1999, Trump Favors abortion rights but respects opposition.

Trumps Statement on Guns:
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I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun. With today’s Internet technology we should be able to tell within 72-hours if a potential gun owner has a record.

He said nothing about semi-auto and to date there is NO definition of assault weapon so the conversation is pointless.

Trumps statement on Abortion (1999):
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Trump clarified his views on abortion, saying he favors abortion rights, but respects those who oppose his position. “I believe it is a personal decision that should be left to the women and their doctors,” he said.
If you are going to make abortion the front and center issue in this election, the GOP will lose.
Need to fall back on the states and let them make the decision, HOWEVER, federal tax dollars should not be involved in any abortion activities.

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Re: Trump proposes massive one-time tax on the rich (1999)
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2015, 08:03:11 pm »
Trumps Statement on Guns:
He said nothing about semi-auto and to date there is NO definition of assault weapon so the conversation is pointless.

Trumps statement on Abortion (1999):If you are going to make abortion the front and center issue in this election, the GOP will lose.
Need to fall back on the states and let them make the decision, HOWEVER, federal tax dollars should not be involved in any abortion activities.




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Re: Trump proposes massive one-time tax on the rich (1999)
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Re: Trump proposes massive one-time tax on the rich (1999)
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2015, 09:35:03 pm »
So, I am to assume from the tone of this piece that if Trump makes it to the Oval Office I should fear that the first billionaire president is going to go after the rich and be a wealth re-distributor? Non-sequitur.

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Re: Trump proposes massive one-time tax on the rich (1999)
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2015, 09:44:46 pm »
So, I am to assume from the tone of this piece that if Trump makes it to the Oval Office I should fear that the first billionaire president is going to go after the rich and be a wealth re-distributor? Non-sequitur.
As long as he does it with bluff, bluster, and bombast, the entertainment hungry "true conservatives" will support virtually anything.

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Re: Trump proposes massive one-time tax on the rich (1999)
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2015, 01:00:28 am »
So, I am to assume from the tone of this piece that if Trump makes it to the Oval Office I should fear that the first billionaire president is going to go after the rich and be a wealth re-distributor? Non-sequitur.
The rich only care about what keeps them rich, relative to the rest of the population. They can handle massive regulations because they have the money and lawyers to be able to navigate it. It's the smaller competition that gets hurt.

There's a reason so many of the super-rich vote Democrat.
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Re: Trump proposes massive one-time tax on the rich (1999)
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2015, 01:48:35 am »
I wonder if anyone else noticed this:

 
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By Trump's calculations, his proposed 14.25 percent levy on such net worth would raise $5.7 trillion and wipe out the debt in one fell swoop.


That was in 1999, 210 years after the adoption of the Constitution and in the same century as 2 World Wars and a devastating economic depression (among other things). What is it now? $18 trillion +, a rise of about 316% in 15 years.

Knock Trump all you wish but at the same time tell us what your guy (or girl) plans to do about this crushing debt which is going to destroy us all eventually.
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