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The Claim That ‘Gay Marriage Can Defeat the Islamic State’ Is Everything You Need To Know About the Left

Posted By Robert Spencer On July 9, 2015 @ 6:00 am In Uncategorized | 8 Comments


For absurd foreign policy prescriptions, it’s hard to beat the Obama State Department. But Foreign Policy magazine gave them a run for their money: in an article [1] entitled “Can Gay Marriage Defeat the Islamic State? A Few — Admittedly Sappy — Thoughts on the Power of #LoveWins,” Rosa Brooks argues that the horrific terror entity can be overcome by the awesome power of the rainbow.

Brooks asks her readers:


Do you want to fight the Islamic State and the forces of Islamic extremist terrorism? … I’ll tell you the best way to send a message to those masked gunmen in Iraq and Syria and to everyone else who gains power by sowing violence and fear. Just keep posting that second set of images.

Brooks is referring to images of gay marriage supporters celebrating the Supreme Court’s ruling.


Post them on Facebook and Twitter and Reddit and in comments all over the Internet. Send them to your friends and your family. Send them to your pen pal in France and your old roommate in Tunisia. Send them to strangers.

Where did Brooks get the idea that a mass posting of photos of gay marriage supporters would conquer the Islamic State? Because, well:


… that’s the lesson of history: Brutality and fear can keep people down for only so long. The Nazis learned this; the Soviets learned it; the Ku Klux Klan learned it; Pol Pot learned it; the Rwandan génocidaires learned it. One of these days, the Islamic State and al-Qaeda will learn it too.

It is much, much more likely — or certain — that the Islamic State sees the Supreme Court decision on gay marriage as evidence of the United States’ decadence and societal decay, and that this will serve to embolden and encourage them.

There is another glaring fallacy in her “analysis”: if the Nazis and Soviets and KKK and Pol Pot and Rwandan génocidaires ever really learned that “brutality and fear can keep people down for only so long,” they didn’t learn it in the manner Brooks seems to think they did.

It is hard to tell how, exactly, she thinks they learned this. By viewing photos of loving couples of any persuasion? Did a photo of an embracing couple move Adolf Hitler to call his genocidal armies back home and close the extermination camps?

Did some image of happiness make Pol Pot realize his stacks and shelves full of skulls were a terrible mistake, leading him to resign and become a florist?

No rational analysis will find Brooks’ claim to be the “lesson of history.” If the Nazis learned that “#LoveWins,” they must have learned it in the blood and ruin of Berlin, as Soviet troops ran wild and raped every young German woman they could catch. The groups Brooks names learned that #LoveWins — if they ever learned it —  at the point of a gun.

They were forced by violence to stop what they were doing.

Yes, even the Klan was prosecuted in the “racist” United States. The only exception to this rule is the Soviet Union — yet Mikhail Gorbachev didn’t oversee the dissolution of the Soviet Union because he realized that the United States was in fact a big hunk of love. The Soviet Union collapsed under the economic pressure that Ronald Reagan brought to bear upon it, and the societal/cultural courage that Pope John Paul II and Lech Walesa brought upon it. It might still exist today if Walesa hadn’t been willing to risk his life in the Gdansk Shipyard.

That’s what will defeat the Islamic State today: people willing to risk their lives to safeguard the dignity and freedom of every human being.

Yet those who are willing to do that are generally the very ones who, in a case of suicidal short-sightedness, are vilified as “racists” and “bigots” by the supporters of gay marriage.

Because love doesn’t always win.


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The left are mental midgets. They are quite literally insane.

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Yes they are and I just read on Fox Oregon is going to allow 15 year old's to decide for themselves if they want sex change surgery and they don't need a parents consent and the government will subsidize this. Government has no right to take away a parents right to raise their children till they are old enough to be on their own. It is time to refuse to pay taxes if your state government is running without any common sense or logic. My son left Washington state in 1996 because of the crazy laws they were passing giving teens way to much freedom and able to become emancipated at I think it was 15. His kids were babies but he said if they are passing those kinds of laws he didn't want his children exposed to them.

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The Islamist cut-throats will doubtless feel intellectually mollified and adequately humiliated by the bully-boy tactics of the Gay Mafia and the ruthless proponents of Same Sex marriage.

Right before they seize, bound and throw them head first off the roof of a seven story building.

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The left are mental midgets. They are quite literally insane.

Well, we're getting our butts kicked by the insanity.

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Well, we're getting our butts kicked by the insanity.
That is because it is insanity with a defined purpose. How can you fight people who are totally bat-shit crazy?

A sane person always expects an opponent to behave by basic rules. The first is that what you do is beneficial in some way to yourself. You always expect people to behave in their own self interests, and that of their family.

The Left, will do anything to 'win'. They don't care about themselves or their family or anyone else. They are agenda driven at any cost, even if it kills them.

In short: They are insane.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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That is because it is insanity with a defined purpose. How can you fight people who are totally bat-shit crazy?

You defeat such people by refusing to give them anything for which they are unwilling to offer payment in exchange. Deny their entitlement. And if they try to take things by force, you fight.
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Yes they are and I just read on Fox Oregon is going to allow 15 year old's to decide for themselves if they want sex change surgery and they don't need a parents consent and the government will subsidize this. Government has no right to take away a parents right to raise their children till they are old enough to be on their own. It is time to refuse to pay taxes if your state government is running without any common sense or logic. My son left Washington state in 1996 because of the crazy laws they were passing giving teens way to much freedom and able to become emancipated at I think it was 15. His kids were babies but he said if they are passing those kinds of laws he didn't want his children exposed to them.

Yeah, federalism can be a pain in the butt at times when the left controls a state.
It's the Supreme Court nominations!

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Andy wrote above:
[[ You defeat such people by refusing to give them anything for which they are unwilling to offer payment in exchange. Deny their entitlement. And if they try to take things by force, you fight. ]]

It is going to come to this, Andy.

Not a question of "if", but of "when".

Do you think that day will arrive in our (older folks, that is) time... ?

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Andy wrote above:
[[ You defeat such people by refusing to give them anything for which they are unwilling to offer payment in exchange. Deny their entitlement. And if they try to take things by force, you fight. ]]

It is going to come to this, Andy.

Not a question of "if", but of "when".

Do you think that day will arrive in our (older folks, that is) time... ?

I'm beginning to have my doubts.  People seem to be pretty apathetic until it  - seems like most people are in agreement with all of these cultural changes.  The indoctrination is now complete.  Only us old folks seem to care.

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I'm beginning to have my doubts.  People seem to be pretty apathetic until it  - seems like most people are in agreement with all of these cultural changes.  The indoctrination is now complete.  Only us old folks seem to care.

You and I see it the same.  :beer:

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I'm beginning to have my doubts.  People seem to be pretty apathetic until it  - seems like most people are in agreement with all of these cultural changes.  The indoctrination is now complete.  Only us old folks seem to care.


You and I see it the same.  :beer:

Word up.

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I'm beginning to have my doubts.  People seem to be pretty apathetic until it  - seems like most people are in agreement with all of these cultural changes.  The indoctrination is now complete.  Only us old folks seem to care.

Us (somewhat) older folks are most often the ones whose wealth and productivity is being stolen and our values abused. We're also more likely to have the means with which to defend ourselves, in a reticle view at 200 yards, if necessary.
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Us (somewhat) older folks are most often the ones whose wealth and productivity is being stolen and our values abused. We're also more likely to have the means with which to defend ourselves, in a reticle view at 200 yards, if necessary.

True.  Unfortunately, our generation is starting to die out and speaking for myself, I don't want to know what it will be like when we are gone.  It will be bloody at some point, for sure.  I pray about it all the time, because I do still believe in miracles.

Based on recent experience with my millennial aged niece and nephew, however, I don't hold out much hope.  Their idea of being a Christian means being a Socialist - they believe that Socialism is a GOOD thing that helps the disadvantaged.  The indoctrination is complete.

They are sheep waiting to go to slaughter.

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I'm beginning to have my doubts.  People seem to be pretty apathetic until it  - seems like most people are in agreement with all of these cultural changes.  The indoctrination is now complete.  Only us old folks seem to care.

The agreement with this cultural change is so effective because any opposition to it means societal ostracism...or at least ostracism from the body politic.  This is not, in that sense, a free society any longer.  While in many ways we are (still) freer than totalitarian societies in the past (travel, private association, economic choice - though all of these are becoming more and more out of the reach of a tremendous majority of Americans), we are not free in speech or or conscience any longer - you must submit to the thought police, at least publicly, or your future most likely is destitution and ostracism.

Two things are happening however, and both must happen to break the iron grip of the new Mind-Gestapo, and it will have to happen in the manner suggested by Andy-in-NH...the first is the tremendous economic dislocation happening throughout the west.  We are all heading toward Greece-ness.  Those chickens are coming home to roost and the impacts are clear on all of us in the rising cost of living and the inability to get ahead, even for those with the most secure and well-paying jobs.  Being a wage earner will not make ends meet. It is also so very telling that the best jobs are all in government or with government contractors.  True free enterprise has gone the way of fascism. There is nothing happening economically that isn't strict government activity or strictly government blessed activity...All the way to the Apple Watch...what passes today as a premier new product.  Seig Heil baby, Hitler and Mussolini won after all.

The second thing is a growing coarseness and violence in society.  From little things like the constant assault of panhandling - literally everywhere you go (I challenge you to go park in a grocery store parking lot in any American city and try not to be approached for a handout...multiple times).  To bigger things like increasing instance of mass violence or the near omnipresence of black markets to the rapidly growing urban blight and decay.  You simply cannot look around you without seeing the decline literally everywhere.  Maybe it was like this in the Great Depression too - I wasn't here then - but just look at the reset in civilization that it took to come out of that.  This time it will be far more devastating to reset.

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Yeah, but as long as there's MTV, everything's cool, baby.

Bread and circuses'll keep the Mundanes glued to Kardashian's, Caitlyn and Beyoncé. You know, the important things in life.