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11-Year-Old Boy Played in His Yard. CPS Took Him, Felony Charge for Parents.

An interview with two parents who lost their kids... over nothing.

Lenore Skenazy|Jun. 11, 2015 11:35 am

 
One afternoon this past April, a Florida mom and dad I'll call Cindy and Fred could not get home in time to let their 11-year-old son into the house. The boy didn't have a key, so he played basketball in the yard. He was alone for 90 minutes. A neighbor called the cops, and when the parents arrived—having been delayed by traffic and rain—they were arrested for negligence.

They were put in handcuffs, strip searched, fingerprinted, and held overnight in jail.

It would be a month before their sons—the 11-year-old and his 4-year-old brother—were allowed home again. Only after the eldest spoke up and begged a judge to give him back to his parents did the situation improve.

I spoke with Cindy about her family’s horrible ordeal.

"My older one was the so-called 'victim,'" she said during a phone interview. But since she and her husband were charged with felony neglect, the younger boy had to be removed from the home, too.

Here is the law: "A person who willfully or by culpable negligence neglects a child without causing great bodily harm, permanent disability, or permanent disfigurement to the child commits a felony of the third degree."

I first heard of Cindy's case last week when she wrote to me at Free-Range Kids. Her email explained:


The authorities claim he had no access to water or shelter.  We have an open shed in the back yard and 2 working sinks and 2 hoses.  They said he had no food.  He ate his snacks already.  He had no bathroom, but the responding officer found our yard good enough to relieve himself in while our son sat in a police car alone.  In his own yard, in a state,  Florida, that has no minimum age for children to be alone. 

The children were placed in foster care for two days while the state ran a background check on a relative who was willing to take them in. "Our first choice was my mother," said Cindy. "But she lives in another state and so the kids would have been in foster care even longer until they cleared her." The parents decided to have them placed with a slightly problematic in-state relative instead.

On the day they all appeared in children's court to move the kids from foster care into the relative's custody, Cindy thought her older son smelled a little strange.

"What have you been eating?" she asked.

"Cereal," he replied.

Only cereal, for the past few days. That's not going to kill anyone, obviously. But if you're arresting parents for not supervising their kids for 90 minutes, it's more than a little hypocritical.

The boys went off with the relative. As Cindy and Fred were charged with a felony, they couldn't cross the county line to go see them and the relative refused to bring them to visit. But after a few weeks, she got tired of taking care of the kids. "Unbeknownst to us," said Cindy, "she was putting them back in state custody."

That's when Child Protective Services asked the court to place the boys in foster care.



Last Tuesday, Cindy, Fred, their two kids, their lawyer, and a lawyer for CPS appeared again in children's court. The opposing lawyers went into the judge's chambers and came out every so often. The family's lawyer explained what was going on. "They were arguing on whether or not the kids should go to foster care or with us,” said Cindy. This went on for hours.

But then, according to Cindy, "My son spoke up." He said he wanted to talk to the judge.

Surprised, their lawyer asked the boy: Did he have the courage to go through with this? And would he tell the truth?

The boy said yes.

"He went back there and spoke to the judge for about ten minutes," said Cindy. "And then the judge came out and called the two lawyers to the bench and talked to them for about 10 or 15 minutes. And with that, our lawyer came to us and said that if we admitted that we didn't know that it was wrong to [let our son] stay in the backyard, but that we know now that it's wrong and we will never let it happen again, and that we will explain this to our son, he would let the children come with us."

Cindy and Fred promised. The judge released the kids and closed the case.

But that is not the end.

That was civil court. Next, Cindy and Fred will head to criminal court to plead "not guilty" to the neglect charge. Naturally, they hope the entire case will be dropped.

In the meantime, to comply with all of the CPS dictates, Cindy and Fred are attending parenting classes. They are also going to therapy. The kids are attending "play" therapy.

This summer, as part of the deal, the older boy must attend day camp. The younger must attend day care. The reason, Cindy thinks, is that years ago there was a girl who disappeared while in foster care and it turned out that no one had been keeping track of her whereabouts. If kids attend day camp or daycare, their whereabouts will always be accounted for.

I asked Cindy how she and the kids spent last summer.

"We did little projects, we would go to the beach," she said. Or they would visit dad at work. She had been planning to enjoy another low key summer with them.

Instead, she will be at home while her kids are in a program mandated by the state.

Cindy and Fred cannot be sure who called the cops and turned their lives upside down. (They have their suspicions.) But they do know who told them they needed to take parenting classes, get therapy, and promise never to let their kids play in their own backyard without a watchman again. They know who took their children away.

And you know, too.

*Update: Additional details about this story, including further confirmation, can be found here.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/06/11/11-year-old-boy-played-in-his-yard-cps-t
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Offline aligncare

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It takes a village, nosy neighbors, and the criminalization of nearly every aspect of our lives today for society to get to this point of absurdity ...

Think back on how your parents raised you. Was any of it criminal?


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This is the kind of thing that just makes one despair over the future. 

I'm glad I'm on the other side of 50 and won't live long enough to the see the logical outcome of this crap.
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Keep in mind that a child one year older than this can get an abortion without parental consent.

But a boy can't shoot baskets in his own driveway without a parent present.


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Montgomery County, Maryland....that county that banned Santa Claus in an annual seasonal parade, recently made international headlines for not once...but twice...arresting the parents of 6 & 10 year old children walking home from a neighborhood park, just 1.5 miles from their home.

The county 'magnanimously' amended the law to make it only apply to children who are in "immediate danger" of injury.

This...the Texas lemonade stand fiasco, is what happens when too many people find themselves with idle time.  They have to justify the jobs/positions.

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It takes a village, nosy neighbors, and the criminalization of nearly every aspect of our lives today for society to get to this point of absurdity ...

Think back on how your parents raised you. Was any of it criminal?
Apparently, my parents were hardcore felons. We ran loose, playing in the woods or other kids' yards until dinnertime, when my mother rang a bell and I knew it was time to get home or else. She made my sister and me do chores, cleaning bathrooms, ironing, vacuuming. We had to help with yard work. If I had a dime for every weed I pulled ...   

And then they had the nerve to teach me to go to church, work hard, obey the law, be responsible, I swear these people were beyond criminal!
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When I was 11 years old, my mother told me if I wanted to buy records and ever have a car when I was sixteen - I'd better get some jobs and start saving money.  She had me to fill out index cards with my name and phone number and go door to door in my neighborhood.

When I was the tender age of 11 - 2 families gave me jobs baby-sitting for their children - some of them were infants that I had to change diapers and all.  I remember washing dishes and doing laundry for those families while I was watching their children.  I made one dollar an hour and was unsupervised the whole time. 

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Apparently, my parents were hardcore felons. We ran loose, playing in the woods or other kids' yards until dinnertime, when my mother rang a bell and I knew it was time to get home or else. She made my sister and me do chores, cleaning bathrooms, ironing, vacuuming. We had to help with yard work. If I had a dime for every weed I pulled ...   

And then they had the nerve to teach me to go to church, work hard, obey the law, be responsible, I swear these people were beyond criminal!

My parents, too, would be in handcuffs today.  But we sure had fun!   :beer:

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Apparently, my parents were hardcore felons. We ran loose, playing in the woods or other kids' yards until dinnertime, when my mother rang a bell and I knew it was time to get home or else. She made my sister and me do chores, cleaning bathrooms, ironing, vacuuming. We had to help with yard work. If I had a dime for every weed I pulled ...   

And then they had the nerve to teach me to go to church, work hard, obey the law, be responsible, I swear these people were beyond criminal!

Your childhood sounds exactly like mine.

And that's why, I think, we know how to take care of ourselves, and think independently.

These poor children growing up now are going to be completely useless....   **nononono*
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My parents, too, would be in handcuffs today.  But we sure had fun!   :beer:

I had fun, unless I was so far in the woods that I couldn't hear the bell my Mom was ringing.

If I was late for supper, my Dad did NOT respond well.  And I, of course, talked back to him, and got spanked for it.

Those were the days!  ^-^
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The next logical point for discussion is how have you raised your own children? How many counts of negligent child rearing (we used to call it strict parenting) have you committed that would land you in jail if done today?

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I would have been arrested for sure. My children were mostly raised in the country we owned horses on 10 acres and every animal you could think of as pets. My daughter rode her horse on the back roads with friends daily at that age. My boys I had 3 of them were out for hours roaming the woods nearby. We were on a lake and my two older were allowed to swim daily although I required an adult or me to be within calling distance my smaller children only went in when I did in our backyard beach. I was raised to go have a great time until lunch or dinner. I went to the pool everyday my parents paid for a summer pass for me at that age and I rode my bike to the pool with other friends this started when I was 8 yrs old. I and my friends went all over our small town of Galion in Ohio and every Saturday afternoon went to the movies by riding a bike it cost 15 cents and we had 10 cents to buy popcorn and a candy bar. We earned this money by picking weeds out of the yard we got 25 cents for a bushel. I am glad I am not raising children today they are way to sheltered and have no idea how to even have the kind of fun we had back in the day.

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I would have been arrested for sure. My children were mostly raised in the country we owned horses on 10 acres and every animal you could think of as pets. My daughter rode her horse on the back roads with friends daily at that age. My boys I had 3 of them were out for hours roaming the woods nearby. We were on a lake and my two older were allowed to swim daily although I required an adult or me to be within calling distance my smaller children only went in when I did in our backyard beach. I was raised to go have a great time until lunch or dinner. I went to the pool everyday my parents paid for a summer pass for me at that age and I rode my bike to the pool with other friends this started when I was 8 yrs old. I and my friends went all over our small town of Galion in Ohio and every Saturday afternoon went to the movies by riding a bike it cost 15 cents and we had 10 cents to buy popcorn and a candy bar. We earned this money by picking weeds out of the yard we got 25 cents for a bushel. I am glad I am not raising children today they are way to sheltered and have no idea how to even have the kind of fun we had back in the day.

Sounds really nice raml, like an ideal childhood!  I remember going to the movies too, and my parents would give me 26 cents - that would get me in and popcorn and a teeny-weeny (by today's standards) soda pop.  Playing, movies and swimming pool - we did all these things by ourselves and the exploration factor of discovering something new all on your own was so wonderful. 

If I were a child now, I would feel like a prisoner.

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I remember the pop they were real actual cups of pop not the big ones of today but it was enough sometimes I got the pop and sometimes I got a candy bar. Today it is to expensive for kids to go to the movies every week like I did and to dangerous for them to run and play through the woods and follow the creek to the reservoir like I and my siblings and friends did. We always went with 2 or 3 friends so I guess we wouldn't have looked to be to good a catch for a predator. I doubt there were many predators around the only person I remember ever being killed was when an older bother killed his sister who was the best friend of my older sister. He killed himself in jail a few years later otherwise there was very few big crimes where I lived.