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Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
« on: February 17, 2015, 01:39:26 pm »
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/232919-poll-republicans-would-take-hit-in-dhs-shutdown

February 17, 2015, 07:56 am
Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
By Ben Kamisar
 
Republicans would take most of the blame if ongoing budget negotiations cause a shutdown at the Department of Homeland Security, according to a new poll.

Fifty three percent of Americans would blame Republicans for a shutdown, CNN/ORC pollsters found, compared to 30 percent who blame President Obama.
Tuesday’s poll comes just weeks before the department’s funding is to run out. Republicans have tried to use a new budget as a vehicle to defund the president’s upcoming actions on immigration. While the overwhelming Republican majority in the House approved that measure, Senate Republicans can’t cobble together enough votes to overcome a Democratic filibuster.

“The House has done its job under the Constitution,” Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) said on “Fox News Sunday” this week.

“It's time for the Senate to do their job,” he said, adding he is “certainly” prepared to let DHS funding expire.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) dismissed that notion last Tuesday and called for the House to send him a bill that he can pass. But he’s since changed his mind and is expected to schedule more votes for later this month.

The president’s immigration actions, announced in November, would delay deportations for potentially millions of undocumented immigrants, while allowing them to apply for work permits. A federal judge ruled Tuesday to delay those actions until a court challenge can determine whether the moves are legal, although the White House said it will appeal.

Fifty nine percent of Americans disapprove of the way the president is handling “illegal immigration,” compared to 53 percent from November.
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Re: Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2015, 04:53:52 pm »
People need to figure out that DHS won't actually shut down.  Support people will go home (with pay), but the ports will still be manned and Border Patrol will still be out there doing whatever they do. 
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Re: Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2015, 04:55:43 pm »
People need to figure out that DHS won't actually shut down.  Support people will go home (with pay), but the ports will still be manned and Border Patrol will still be out there doing whatever they do.

The people only figure out what they are spoon fed by the media. The hostile media will blame almost anything bad on Republicans, and the public will believe them.

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Re: Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2015, 04:59:23 pm »
The people only figure out what they are spoon fed by the media. The hostile media will blame almost anything bad on Republicans, and the public will believe them.

Mostly because the Republicans won't fight back and call a spade a spade.  But they do this deliberately rather than out of 'stupidity' because...


The sole purpose of the Republican Party is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.


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Re: Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2015, 05:02:37 pm »
Mostly because the Republicans won't fight back and call a spade a spade.  But they do this deliberately rather than out of 'stupidity' because...


The sole purpose of the Republican Party is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.

Couldn't agree more.

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Re: Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2015, 05:21:57 pm »
Couldn't agree more.

Yeah, but look at how long they've been able to play people off between being Charlie Brown 'I'm really going to kick that football this time!' and...

Oops, we're the 'stupid party' again!

That little game has deceived conservatives for 50 years or more... so who's the real dummy?


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Re: Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2015, 05:48:27 pm »
Yeah, but look at how long they've been able to play people off between being Charlie Brown 'I'm really going to kick that football this time!' and...

Oops, we're the 'stupid party' again!

That little game has deceived conservatives for 50 years or more... so who's the real dummy?

Some of us.  The rest of us woke up to this ten years ago and we've been mocked and ridiculed for trying to wake everybody else up to it ever since.  You know - smear the messenger?



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Re: Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2015, 05:53:37 pm »
Some of us.  The rest of us woke up to this ten years ago and we've been mocked and ridiculed for trying to wake everybody else up to it ever since.  You know - smear the messenger?

Yep, I do.  Vote RINO... it's the compromising thing to do...      :silly:


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Re: Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2015, 05:54:27 pm »
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Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown

So says Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Director of Polling.  I personally don't believe that for a second!
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Re: Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2015, 06:10:45 pm »
So says Jennifer Agiesta, CNN Director of Polling.  I personally don't believe that for a second!

Here come the polls!

It's easy to de-cypher them, just go with the OPPOSITE results and you will see what they fear and WHO they fear!

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Re: Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2015, 08:12:13 pm »
http://hotair.com/archives/2015/02/17/poll-gop-is-losing-the-messaging-war-over-dhs-funding/

Poll: GOP is losing the messaging war over DHS funding
posted at 2:41 pm on February 17, 2015 by Noah Rothman

   

The countdown clock to a “shutdown” of the Department of Homeland Security is ticking relentlessly toward to zero. Meanwhile, the political press is not doing Republicans any favors amid the party’s effort to use their newfound political leverage to force the president to reverse his executive orders on immigration.

Sure, there is the occasional press report that critically examines exactly what a DHS “shutdown” would look like if that undesirable eventuality came to pass (and it would look nothing like an agency shutdown). For the majority of reporters and media outlets, however, most seem content to disseminate the Democratic Party’s contradictory messaging.

Obama’s immigration orders cannot be reversed or even stalled as a result of a DHS shutdown because that agency is funded through fees and multiyear appropriations, Democrats and reporters insist. In the next breath, however, they will impugn Republicans for putting American national security at risk. This self-contradicting message does not seem to bother the press all that much.

Perhaps it is attributable to the media’s reporting, or maybe the public associates all talk of “shutdowns” with the unpopular government shutdown of 2013. In either case, a new poll suggests that the GOP is losing the messaging war over DHS funding.

“The survey finds 53% of Americans would blame the Republicans in Congress if the department must shut down, while 30% would blame President Barack Obama,” read a CNN report on its latest poll of the public. “Another 13% say both deserve the blame.”

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A majority says a shutdown at DHS, even if it’s just for a few days, would be a crisis or a major problem. Republicans are less likely to see a shutdown as a big problem, 46% say so compared with 66% among Democrats. Among all adults, slightly fewer see a DHS shutdown as a problem or crisis than said so in November when asked about a possible shutdown of the whole government, 55% now vs. 59% in that poll.

Given the increasingly unstable international security environment, and the proliferation of attacks attributable to ISIS-inspired militants in the West, it’s understandable that the public would be apprehensive about a DHS “shutdown.” Again, it is incumbent on the press to correct the public’s apparent misapprehension that national security is, in the near-term, jeopardized as a result of an impasse over DHS funding. But few in the media appear inclined to correct the record.

This poll’s finding is even more inexplicable when considering that it found that the public strongly disapproves of the president’s handling of issues related to illegal immigration. Though it has been lower in the past, only 40 percent of the public approves of Obama’s handling of immigration issues. 59 percent of respondents disapprove. Those results are worse for the president on this issue than they were in late November when anxiety over the last summer’s border crisis had largely abated.

What this poll indicates clearly is that the GOP is losing this fight over DHS funding in the court of public opinion. Republican attempts to talk over the media’s heads on this matter have failed. The GOP should not abandon the course they have set, but they should be fully aware of the risks as they proceed. Merely asserting confidently that it will be Democrats, and specifically President Barack Obama, who will shut down the Department of Homeland Security if they fail to approve a measure that de-funds executive actions on immigration is not convincing the public. It’s time to try a new approach.
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Re: Poll: GOP would take hit in DHS shutdown
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The survey finds 53% of Americans ...

That's all you need to know about this worthless poll!
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