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Boehner Narrowly Wins Re-Election As Speaker, Dissent Grows
« on: January 06, 2015, 08:59:42 pm »
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Boehner Narrowly Wins Re-Election As Speaker, Dissent Grows
Tuesday, January 6, 2015 02:03 PM

By: REUTERS

John Boehner narrowly won a third term as House of Representatives speaker on Tuesday, surviving a stiff challenge from 25 conservative Republicans as the party took full control of Congress.

Boehner received 216 of 408 votes cast in a tense vote, with a growing faction of dissident House Republicans declining to vote for him and nearly depriving him of a majority.

The group of Republican defectors was more than twice the dozen who withheld their support from him in an election two years ago, in an indication of stark party divisions that could make it hard to pass legislation.

Boehner can afford to lose a few more Republican votes on tough legislation after November elections gave the party its largest House majority since 1947. But with Tuesday's vote indicating a more restive right flank, he may need to depend even more on Democrats to win close votes.

"As speaker all I ask and frankly expect is that we disagree without being disagreeable, in turn I pledge to help each of you carry out your duty," a tearful Boehner told House members after the election. "My door, of course, is always open."

A core group of conservatives had campaigned against Boehner, arguing he had done too little to cut spending and fight President Barack Obama's immigration and healthcare policies.

Representative Justin Amash said on his Facebook page that the House needs "modern" leaders with limited terms.

"Speaker Boehner has given his best to our conference, and I thank him for his service. But it's time for Republicans to change our leadership. This afternoon, I will vote for a new speaker," Amash wrote.

The conservatives were particularly angry about Boehner's handling of a $1.1 trillion spending bill in December. They say the 1,600-page measure was negotiated in secret and failed to deny funds to agencies responsible for implementing Obama's executive immigration order, which lifts the threat of deportation for millions of undocumented immigrants.

Late on Monday, Republicans briefly discussed the possibility of attaching language to the DHS funding bill that would withhold any federal funds for the department's employees to implement Obama's order, according to Representative John Fleming of Louisiana.

Such a move is likely to draw a veto from Obama, threatening operations of one of the most important federal agencies in the post-Sept. 11, 2011 era.

Republican Senator Mitch McConnell, who assumes the Senate majority leader job on Tuesday and has been hoping to avoid any government shutdown fights this year, could temper such House legislation and force Boehner's Republicans to compromise.

McConnell has influence over the House because the Senate will need to approve any legislation for it to win final passage.

But even some of the most conservative House members also were expressing the need to ease their hard-line stances.

"It might be that I end up voting for some things that are not clear victories but they are somewhat victories. But that's what the legislative process is about," said Fleming, who helped orchestrate the 2013 federal government shutdown in a failed attempt to kill Obamacare.

Republicans still may not be able to achieve a full repeal of Obama's signature health care law, but they are expected to chip away at it by passing measures to ease requirements for employer health care coverage and repeal an excise tax on medical devices. On the energy front, the first major bill the Republican-controlled Senate intends to pass is approval of the Canada-to-Texas Keystone XL oil pipeline.

Another big test of McConnell's leadership is likely to come by mid-year, when Congress will either have to raise the government's borrowing authority or risk a credit default. The debt limit fight is always a hot-button issue for conservatives who oppose more borrowing.



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Re: Boehner Narrowly Wins Re-Election As Speaker, Dissent Grows
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2015, 09:57:04 pm »
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Republicans still may not be able to achieve a full repeal of Obama's signature health care law, ...

Achieve it??? Hell! They won't even try it with this "leadership"!!
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Boehner Narrowly Wins Re-Election As Speaker, Dissent Grows
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2015, 10:10:12 pm »
Dissent?  Side are chosen.  Dissent means nothing at this point.  25 GOP House members just made themselves irrelevant for the next two years, even if they decide to caucus with the Democrats.  Why would anyone in the GOP work with anybody in that group?  Their vote isn't needed, they obviously don't want compromise, and they actively have been bashing GOP leadership in public.

I suppose the upside is they can all yuk it up at CPAC during cocktail hour, while the poor schlubs who keep them afloat financially sit at home and send money to their various front groups.
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Re: Boehner Narrowly Wins Re-Election As Speaker, Dissent Grows
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2015, 10:12:56 pm »
Achieve it??? Hell! They won't even try it with this "leadership"!!

A full repeal was always a fool's errand.  Completely unrealistic.  That ship sailed in the summer of 2012.  Large insurers and HMOs have put too much time and money into conforming with the ACA.  To repeal it at this point would knock so many people off of plans, it would be chaotic.
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Re: Boehner Narrowly Wins Re-Election As Speaker, Dissent Grows
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2015, 10:14:50 pm »
Dissent?  Side are chosen.  Dissent means nothing at this point.  25 GOP House members just made themselves irrelevant for the next two years, even if they decide to caucus with the Democrats.  Why would anyone in the GOP work with anybody in that group?  Their vote isn't needed, they obviously don't want compromise, and they actively have been bashing GOP leadership in public.

I suppose the upside is they can all yuk it up at CPAC during cocktail hour, while the poor schlubs who keep them afloat financially sit at home and send money to their various front groups.
They will all be invited on Hannity.

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Re: Boehner Narrowly Wins Re-Election As Speaker, Dissent Grows
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2015, 10:17:43 pm »
They will all be invited on Hannity.

Good point.  Free dinner at Ruth's Chris for being politically irrelevant.  Welcome to the Tea Party! 
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Re: Boehner Narrowly Wins Re-Election As Speaker, Dissent Grows
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2015, 10:47:10 pm »
Dissent?  Side are chosen.  Dissent means nothing at this point.  25 GOP House members just made themselves irrelevant for the next two years, even if they decide to caucus with the Democrats.  Why would anyone in the GOP work with anybody in that group?  Their vote isn't needed, they obviously don't want compromise, and they actively have been bashing GOP leadership in public.

I suppose the upside is they can all yuk it up at CPAC during cocktail hour, while the poor schlubs who keep them afloat financially sit at home and send money to their various front groups.

I think you put it too strongly.  Their votes are votes, and they will matter, if Boehner can't get enough votes from elsewhere, so there is still a quid pro quo that could benefit both - if only they have the smarts to see it.