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As you might imagine .. the Twitter universe is lit up and even though I haven't looked yet .. They're probably forming their protest in the streets already.
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St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said the officer was patrolling the neighborhood for a private firm at the time of the shooting. He confirmed that the victim was 18 years old.

Dotson said the officer was in a car when he saw three males and one of them started to run away but stopped. The officer did a U-turn and then all three ran. He drove through streets following them and then chased them on foot. He then got into a physical confrontation with one that escalated into gunfire.

The teenager had a gun and fired at least three shots at the officer, who returned fire, the chief said. The teenager attempted to fire more but his gun jammed, Dotson said.

The officer fired 17 times, he said. It is unclear how many times the teenager was shot.

Police recovered a 9mm Ruger, he said.

Dotson did not identify the 18-year-old but said he "was no stranger to law enforcement."

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Relatives who came to the scene, however, said the victim had been unarmed. They identified the victim as Vonderrit Myers Jr., 18.

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Re: Police officer fatally shoots teenager in south St. Louis
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2014, 10:05:31 am »
Unconfirmed but .. I'm taking bets! :whistle:


MYERS , VONDERRIT DEONDRE , Defendant represented by COHEN , PETER MICHAEL , Attorney for Defendant
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Description: Unlawful Use Of A Weapon (Subsections 1 - 4) { Felony D RSMo: 571.030 }
 Date: 06/27/2014 Code: 3102000
 OCN: CJ001706 Arresting Agency: ST LOUIS METROPOLITAN POLICE

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 Description: Resisting/Interfering With Arrest, Detention Or Stop { Misdemeanor A RSMo: 575.150 }
 Date: 06/27/2014 Code: 2704000
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Well, I guess he won’t be making it to his trial on the 17th of November for Unlawful Use of a Weapon and Resisting Arrest.
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Re: Police officer fatally shoots teenager in south St. Louis
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2014, 12:13:25 pm »
Doesn't matter. He'll be described as such a fine young man, an honor student,  blahblahblah.
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Protests in St. Louis after cop shoots teen dead
By Associated Press via NY Post
October 9, 2014 | 5:19am

ST. LOUIS — An off-duty police officer fatally shot an 18-year-old man who opened fire during a chase in south St. Louis, sparking loud protests in the area, police said Thursday.

St. Louis Police Chief Col. Sam Dotson said the 32-year-old officer was patrolling the Shaw neighborhood for a private security company late Wednesday when the shooting happened.

The officer said three men in the street ran away when they spotted him, Dotson told reporters at a news conference early Thursday. The way that one of the men ran — grabbing at his waistband, slightly lopsided — indicated that he was carrying a weapon, so the officer chased him, Dotson said.

The man approached the officer in an aggressive way, an altercation ensued and the man fired at the officer, the police chief said. The officer returned fire and killed him.

Ballistic evidence recovered from the scene indicates that the man fired three rounds at the officer before his weapon jammed, Dotson said, adding that the gun was also recovered.

The officer fired 17 shots, Dotson said. He said he didn’t know how many of those shots hit the suspect or why the officer fired that many shots. The officer was not injured.

“An investigation will decide if the officer’s behavior was appropriate,” he said at police headquarters.

People who described themselves as relatives of the dead man told The St. Louis Post Dispatch that he was not armed.

Dotson described the officer as a six-year veteran of the St. Louis Police Department, and said the man who was killed was 18 years old and black.

He did not name either man.

Hours after the shooting, a crowd gathered at the scene near the Missouri Botanical Garden. Some shouted “Hands up, don’t shoot” in reference to the fatal shooting in August of an unarmed black man, Michael Brown, by a white police officer in nearby Ferguson. That shooting led to weeks of sometimes violent unrest in the St. Louis suburb. Officer Darren Wilson has not been charged in the shooting.

Dotson said some in the crowd Wednesday night shouted obscenities at officers and damaged police cars, but that the officers “showed great restraint.”

He added: “Any police officer use of force certainly will draw attention.”

No demonstrators were arrested and by 1 a.m. Thursday the crowd had largely dispersed.
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Vastly Different Stories Emerging In Police Shooting Of St. Louis Teen
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2014, 04:34:33 pm »
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/st-louis-police-shooting-no-stranger-to-law-enforcement



ByDYLAN SCOTTPublishedOCTOBER 9, 2014, 11:28 AM EDT

Details of the Thursday night shooting of a black St. Louis teen by an off-duty police officer are still emerging, but the stories being told by the authorities and the teen's family thus far seem to be almost irreconcilable.

Protesters quickly came out to protest the shooting, which occurred in south St. Louis near the Missouri Botanical Garden. One relative of the dead teen called it "Michael Brown all over again," referring to the Ferguson, Mo., police shooting of an unarmed black teen in suburban St. Louis in August that sparked fierce protests and drew national attention.

Here is what is being reported so far, most of it courtesy of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.



THE SHOOTING

St. Louis Police chief Sam Dotson provided a detailed description of the shooting, in which an off-duty police officer working for a private security firm (but was wearing his uniform) shot 18-year-old Vonderrit Myers, Jr., who has been identified by his family but not the police.

The officer had spotted three black males, who ran from him, and pursued one of them on foot.

"When the officer went through the gangway, he saw the three gentlemen had come back together," Dotson said. "One of the gentleman started to approach the officer in an aggressive manner. The officer was giving verbal commands, telling them to stop, telling them how to surrender, telling them that they were under arrest. The suspect continued to come towards the officer until they got into a physical altercation. The suspect and the officer were hands on with each other. At that time, the suspect's gray hooded sweatshirt comes off and the suspect starts to run up a hill at the address on Shaw."

The officer believed he saw a gun on Myer's person, but wanted to be sure, Dotson said.

"The suspect pointed the gun at the officer and fired at least three rounds at the police officer. We believe this to be true because there are three projectiles that we recovered with trajectories going towards the officer, down the hill, and one piece of ballistic evidence located behind the officer," Dotson said. "At that point, the officer returned fire. As the officer moved towards the suspect, the suspect continued to pull the trigger on his gun."

The officer fired 17 shots. It's not clear how many times Myers was struck.



VONDERRIT MYERS, JR.

St. Louis police did not release much information overnight about Myers or formally identify him, but the St. Louis Post-Dispatch is reporting that the teen was set to stand trial next month for unlawful use of a weapon.

Myer's family, however, is contending that he was unarmed and had been "Tased" by the officer prior to being shot.

Dotson had initially declined to provide information on Myers, but, while still refusing to identify him, then said that he was "no stranger to law enforcement" on Thursday, according to the Post-Dispatch.

The newspaper reported that Myers was set to stand trial in November on charges of unlawful use of a weapon and resisting arrest. As a condition of bail, he was supposed to be under house arrest and wearing an ankle bracelet. Nothing in his file suggested that he has previously broken the rules of his house arrest, according to the Post-Dispatch.

Myers' family said that he had been unarmed and leaving a convenience store after buying a sandwich when he was caught up in a police chase that didn't involve him, according to the newspaper, based on the family's own discussions with witnesses.

“My nephew was coming out of a store from purchasing a sandwich. Security was supposedly searching for someone else. They Tased him,” Jackie Williams, his uncle, said. “I don’t know how this happened, but they went off and shot him 16 times. That’s outright murder.”



THE OFFICER

The officer in the shooting has not been publicly identified. The police told the Post-Dispatch that the officer did not have a Taser, in response to the comments from Myers's family.

Reuters, CNN, the Los Angeles Times and other news outlets identify him as a white male. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch gives no indication of the officer's race. The AP says he is 32 years old and "a six-year veteran of the St. Louis police force whose race wasn't immediately disclosed."
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Re: Vastly Different Stories Emerging In Police Shooting Of St. Louis Teen
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2014, 04:44:11 pm »
Fury as off-duty St Louis police officer working in private security shoots dead high school student, 18, in gun fight - just 10 miles from where Michael Brown was killed

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2786043/High-school-student-dead-shot-16-times-duty-police-officer-St-Louis-10-miles-Michael-Brown-killed.html

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An 18-year-old man has died after an off-duty police officer shot at him 17 times - just miles from where unarmed teen Michael Brown was gunned down by a cop in August.

Police said that Vonderrit Myers Jr. first opened fire on the unidentified 32-year-old officer in Shaw, Missouri, which is less than 10 miles from Ferguson, where Brown was shot dead on August 9.

The officer, who is a six-year veteran of the force, was in a car working a secondary job for a private security company when he saw three males in the street, St Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said in an early-morning press conference.


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Re: Vastly Different Stories Emerging In Police Shooting Of St. Louis Teen
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2014, 05:31:35 pm »
The local tribesmen jus be makin sh!t up, dat gots no truf to it. Officer didn't eben hab a tazer, fo gosh sakes.

Seriously, what is with "private security?" The local businesses already taking matters into their own hands, to fend off the tribesmen?
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Re: Vastly Different Stories Emerging In Police Shooting Of St. Louis Teen
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2014, 05:39:14 pm »
St. Louis Shooting Victim Vonderrit Myers, Jr. “No Stranger” to Law Enforcement – Had Ankle Monitor

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/once-again-st-louis-shooting-victim-was-no-stranger-to-law-enforcement-had-ankle-monitor/

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18 Year-Old Vonderrit Myers, Jr. Had Gun Felony Conviction & Ankle Monitor

An 18 year-old teenager was shot by a police officer in St. Louis City Wednesday night.
The suspect reportedly shot at the officer during a chase.
A 9mm Ruger was recovered from the scene.
The shooting took place around 7:30 PM CT.

Hundreds of protesters, including Ferguson protest leaders, took to the street after the shooting.


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Re: Vastly Different Stories Emerging In Police Shooting Of St. Louis Teen
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2014, 05:48:40 pm »
Ground Zero for the coming race war before the election.
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Re: Vastly Different Stories Emerging In Police Shooting Of St. Louis Teen
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2014, 06:38:33 pm »
Ground Zero for the coming race war before the election.
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Re: Vastly Different Stories Emerging In Police Shooting Of St. Louis Teen
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2014, 08:47:41 pm »
Ground Zero for the coming race war before the election.

To whose benefit does that redound?  Seems to me that would infuriate all sides, and there are a lot more whites than blacks, thanks to Planned Parenthood.  Sanger's warped, evil plan worked as intended....

If certain people couldn't see how George Zimmerman's head was injured in the attack from St. Skittles, they're not going to appreciate the fact this dead yout was killed while trying to shoot a cop.
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« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2014, 09:00:42 pm »
To whose benefit does that redound?  Seems to me that would infuriate all sides, and there are a lot more whites than blacks, thanks to Planned Parenthood.  Sanger's warped, evil plan worked as intended....

If certain people couldn't see how George Zimmerman's head was injured in the attack from St. Skittles, they're not going to appreciate the fact this dead yout was killed while trying to shoot a cop.

I don't see it so much as an attempt to garner votes - more of an attempt to sow more seeds of chaos.  The Left surely has some doubt as to whether they will prevail in this upcoming election - and since their strongest skill is that of organizing - they will sow seeds of doubt as to whether blacks, or hispanics, or women are getting a fair shake. 

That's what Al Gore did.  To this day, liberals bitch that GWB stole the election!  If they can do that again - it just makes it that much harder for Republicans to utilize their majority status - not to mention that the GOP is so angst-ridden of white guilt that at the mere mention of race or gender sends them running into the corner.

Also, a worst case scenario is to cause such a widespread mass chaos in our urban areas - that voting just might have to be postponed until things calm down.  I do not put anything past these people.  Things are boiling over right now on so many fronts - in such a timely way before an election that the Democrats are expected to take some hits.  These guys don't know how to win without cheating.

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« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2014, 10:11:05 pm »

Also, a worst case scenario is to cause such a widespread mass chaos in our urban areas - that voting just might have to be postponed until things calm down.  I do not put anything past these people.  Things are boiling over right now on so many fronts - in such a timely way before an election that the Democrats are expected to take some hits.  These guys don't know how to win without cheating.

There's precedence for this:  New York City had a Primary election on 9/11/01.  Guiliani suspended it.
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« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2014, 12:45:54 am »
There's precedence for this:  New York City had a Primary election on 9/11/01.  Guiliani suspended it.

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« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2014, 03:44:16 pm »
I don't see it so much as an attempt to garner votes - more of an attempt to sow more seeds of chaos.  The Left surely has some doubt as to whether they will prevail in this upcoming election - and since their strongest skill is that of organizing - they will sow seeds of doubt as to whether blacks, or hispanics, or women are getting a fair shake. 

That's what Al Gore did.  To this day, liberals bitch that GWB stole the election!  If they can do that again - it just makes it that much harder for Republicans to utilize their majority status - not to mention that the GOP is so angst-ridden of white guilt that at the mere mention of race or gender sends them running into the corner.

Also, a worst case scenario is to cause such a widespread mass chaos in our urban areas - that voting just might have to be postponed until things calm down.  I do not put anything past these people.  Things are boiling over right now on so many fronts - in such a timely way before an election that the Democrats are expected to take some hits.  These guys don't know how to win without cheating.
the have nothing to run on so chaos works and they are getting it. Now with the whitey let the ebola patient die, that will be used too.


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« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2014, 03:58:20 pm »
the have nothing to run on so chaos works and they are getting it. Now with the whitey let the ebola patient die, that will be used too.

Yes, it's all so stupendously convenient. 

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« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2014, 04:22:17 pm »
the have nothing to run on so chaos works and they are getting it. Now with the whitey let the ebola patient die, that will be used too.

Everything is whitey's fault.

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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2014, 05:15:43 pm »
Everything is whitey's fault.

Whitey is the husband/father figure for the nation...

Think of it as "The White Man's Burden" of the 21st Century.  Now, suck it up, whitey has privilege, don't you know....
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