Missing NKorea's Kim May Have Been Toppled in Coup

[mystery-ak]

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Missing NKorea's Kim May Have Been Toppled in Coup
Monday, October 6, 2014 12:07 PM

By: Drew MacKenzie

North Korea leader Kim Jong Un, who has not been seen in public for a month, is at the center of growing speculation that he’s been deposed.

And the rumors may be fueled on Friday when Kim would be expected to be on the reviewing stand for the celebrations centered on the founding of the country’s Workers’ Party.

“Until then, we can say there are signs that Kim Jong Un has lost substantial power and will soon become, if he is not already, a figurehead,” writes Gordon Chang of The Daily Beast.

The mystery surrounding Kim’s whereabouts gathered momentum over the weekend after the communist regime’s second in command, Hwang Pyong So, suddenly traveled to South Korea for peace talks with the North’s longtime enemy, the Beast reports.

Hwang was given the title of vice chairman of the National Defense Commission during a recent meeting of the Supreme People’s Assembly in addition to his recent promotion to director of the General Political Bureau of the Korean People’s Army, making him the top political officer in the military.

In a country where there’s not supposed to be an official number two position, Hwang is being called the second-most powerful person, according to  the Beast.

On 24 hours’ notice, Hwang led Pyongyang’s most senior delegation ever to Incheon near the South Korea capital of Seoul in talks at aimed resuming relations between the two republics.

His surprise trip with an 11-member delegation from Pyongyang came as a report surfaced saying that Kim has been deposed in a possible coup.

Jang Jin Sung, a former North Korean propaganda official, has claimed that the Organization and Guidance Department of the Korean Workers’ Party, which has control over major positions in the North’s leadership, has taken over the country, while Kim is now just a “puppet,” according to Vice News.

Kim, 31, who is frequently the centerpiece of the isolated country's propaganda, has not been photographed by state media since appearing at a concert alongside wife Ri Sol Ju on Sept. 3.

The eccentric leader had been seen walking with a limp, reportedly due to gout, in a pre-recorded documentary broadcast by state media in late September.

But during the weekend delegation to South Korea, a senior official of the North's ruling Workers' Party, told the South's Unification Minister Ryoo Kihl-jae that there was no problem with Kim's health.

However, the Beast’s Chang wrote, “Indeed, there are signs that not only has Hwang risen, but also that Kim has fallen. The young ruler did not preside over last’s month meeting of the Supreme People’s Assembly, the first time that has happened since he took power after his father’s death in December 2011.

“Yes, he may have been ill, but if he was politically healthy, the meeting would have been postponed until he was able to appear.”

[EdinVA]

Hopefully, the military leaders have come to their senses and fed him to the dogs like he did his uncle...

[alicewonders]

Hopefully, the military leaders have come to their senses and fed him to the dogs like he did his uncle...

It would be fitting.

[Lando Lincoln]

It would be fitting.

Indeed, but no better for the rest of the world.  Hopefully NKorea can climb out of the dark.  We need a light to shine... somewhere!

[alicewonders]

Indeed, but no better for the rest of the world.  Hopefully NKorea can climb out of the dark.  We need a light to shine... somewhere!

Agree Lando.  Wouldn't it be something if it would shine in North Korea?  Strange times.

[famousdayandyear]

Nah.  He's just been shipped off to a Russian gulag for a weight loss program.  A lengthy weight loss program.  The one where no food is allowed.

[famousdayandyear]

Agree Lando.  Wouldn't it be something if it would shine in North Korea?  Strange times.

North Korea could use some light:

[massadvj]

The problem with socialism, and by extension communism, is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money. Of course, that's not as big a problem so long as you can imprison the entire population.  Yet in this day and age, even that may not be sustainable, as we may see.

[famousdayandyear]

Running out of money?. . .well, just print more.

[massadvj]

Running out of money?. . .well, just print more.

That is the American way for socialists to spend other people's money.  They inflate the currency then blame greedy capitalists for rising prices.  It is a tried and true method that has worked in American politics for 5 generations.

[famousdayandyear]

That is the American way for socialists to spend other people's money.  They inflate the currency then blame greedy capitalists for rising prices.  It is a tried and true method that has worked in American politics for 5 generations.

Wondering when the current house of cards will collapse.  The market trends seem to be "unsustainable" at its present levels.

[massadvj]

Wondering when the current house of cards will collapse.  The market trends seem to be "unsustainable" at its present levels.

Good question.  It may not collapse.  Maybe they'll be able to slowly deflate the balloon, or there will be enough improvement in the economy and productivity to create a nice river to throw all this toxic waste into.  I always bet both ways.  Personally, I want to cash in on the bubble, but I also want to protect myself from collapse.  Diversify, diversify, diversify.  Prepare for every eventuality you can imagine.

[famousdayandyear]

Good question.  It may not collapse.  Maybe they'll be able to slowly deflate the balloon, or there will be enough improvement in the economy and productivity to create a nice river to throw all this toxic waste into.  I always bet both ways.  Personally, I want to cash in on the bubble, but I also want to protect myself from collapse.  Diversify, diversify, diversify.  Prepare for every eventuality you can imagine.

Me?  I fold.  BofA cooked my goose several years ago.  Big time.
And, yes, you are absolutely correct.  I did NOT diversify -- and paid for that error.

[evadR]

It appears So Damn Dumb finally met the fate that he so richly deserves.

[ABX]

The mystery surrounding Kim’s whereabouts gathered momentum over the weekend after the communist regime’s second in command, Hwang Pyong So, suddenly traveled to South Korea for peace talks with the North’s longtime enemy....

If true, this seems to be the biggest clue that something big happened.

[240B]

That is the American way for socialists to spend other people's money.  They inflate the currency then blame greedy capitalists for rising prices.  It is a tried and true method that has worked in American politics for 5 generations.

The was the plan and the intent of fiat currency. That is why the Feds ran around the country confiscating gold, and basically making gold coin illegal.
 
They knew dilbrately that if they could free the dollar from any objective or substantive unit of value, then they could print as much of it as they want. And they were right as we can plainly see.
 
The American dollar is backed by nothing but words and air so called, goodwill.

[240B]

The NKs have played this game before. We can only hope there is actually something to it this time.
 
Very strange sentence when they said he would become a 'figurehead'. It does not work that way anywhere in the world or in history. If there was a coup, his ass will either be dead or in prison.

[kevindavis007]

If true, I think that China would be behind this coup..

[240B]

If true, I think that China would be behind this coup..

Certainly possible. And it may even be a positive thing. At least the Chinese are somewhat rational.

[SPQR]

It still does not answer who has their finger on North Korea's nukes.

[NavyCanDo]

Anyone checks Dennis Rodman's luggage on his return?   

[SPQR]

Anyone checks Dennis Rodman's luggage on his return?   

I do not think that people want to know what is luggage. Maybe its items S and M related.

[mountaineer]

This must be so confusing for the North Korean people. One moment, they're told to worship this nitwit, the next he disappears?

Eyes on Kim as North Korea preps for anniversary
ERIC TALMADGE
Oct 9th 2014 1:28PM

TOKYO (AP via Yahoo) -- As North Korea's ruling party prepares to mark its 69th anniversary on Friday, the world will be watching to see if leader Kim Jong Un will make his first public appearance in more than a month.

Kim's absence from the public eye, along with suggestions in the North Korean media that he might be ill, has generated a wide range of rumors abroad that all is not well in the secretive and isolated country.

Kim was last was seen in public attending a concert on Sept. 3. Before that, he had been shown walking with a limp.

The Friday event marks the founding of the ruling Worker's Party of Korea.

Kim's absence would not in itself be all that important or unusual - such anniversaries are generally given more weight when they are landmark years, though he attended the celebrations in the last two years.

It was not clear how much pomp would be put on for the event Friday. A high-profile celebration is expected for next year's 70th anniversary of the ruling party.

Even so, because the young leader has not been shown in the North Korean media for the past month, his attendance at the event has taken on more meaning.

During a surprise visit to South Korea last week to attend the closing ceremonies of the Asian Games in Incheon, three senior North Korean leaders assured their South Korean counterparts that Kim was healthy, but that has done little to calm the rumors abroad that he was unwell.

Kim missed a meeting of the country's parliament late last month, and was absent again from a gathering this week to mark his late father's election as ruling party head.

Adding to the uncertainty, Kim has not been seen in North Korean media reports greeting the athletes who returned from the Asian Games - though they were given a lavish reception and heavy media coverage when they returned to the capital.

[SPQR]

Agree Lando.  Wouldn't it be something if it would shine in North Korea?  Strange times.

Nothing will shine as long as the Communist Party is still in power.

[mountaineer]

And then there's this ...

N. Korean leader Kim Jong-un makes first public appearance in about 40 days
2014/10/14 06:36

 

(ATTN: ADDS KCNA giving no date of visit)

SEOUL, Oct. 14 (Yonhap) -- North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has made his first public appearance in more than a month, giving a "field guidance" at a newly built housing complex, according to Pyongyang's state media on Tuesday.

The visit to the Wisong Scientists Residential District marked the first time Kim has appeared in public since he attended a musical concert on Sept. 3. The official Korean Central News Agency did not say when the visit was made, but it was believed to have been made on Monday.