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Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?
« on: September 26, 2014, 12:57:47 pm »
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Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?

Peter Suderman|Sep. 25, 2014 1:46 pm

Today in oh-fer-cryin-out-loud: In an article titled "Romney 2016 is for real," The Washington Examiner’s Byron York looks at the movement to keep Mitt Romney—yes, that Mitt Romney, the oddly robotic candidate who looks like Mr. Fantastic, the wealthy former consultant who casually makes $10,000 bets with his opponents, the policy-specifics averse former Massachusetts governor who inspired so little enthusiasm as he topped the GOP ticket and lost by three points in 2012—in the mix as a potential contender for the Republican Party’s presidential nomination in 2016.

Why, you might wonder, would anyone want Romney to run again? He offered almost nothing to the ticket in 2012 except a bland respectability. Against the weak GOP lineup he was facing, that was enough to win the nomination. But most Republican voters never really loved the guy, and he never really seemed particularly fond of Republican voters or conservative policies (remember, this is the guy who as Massachusetts governor signed into law the model for Obamacare, hoping that the rest of the nation would follow).

His domestic policy agenda, in particular, was intentionally kept vague and largely substance free; he wasn’t running on what he would do so much as what he wouldn’t be—Obama. There was almost no positive case to vote for Romney, and he and his team barely attempted to present one. Another nod for Romney would only serve to further cement the already pervasive notion that the Republican party is an agenda-free-zone when it comes to policy.

Romney was nominated because he seemed more electable than the rest of the field. Relatively speaking, that impression may have been right, but it’s hard to run on electability after having soundly lost a major national election.

So what’s the case for another Romney campaign? York’s piece implies that part of it is the sense that he could represent the interests of some of the party’s moneyed establishment, large segments of which supported him in 2012. The establishment is looking for a contender, and they think Romney could be their best bet, especially if former Florida governor Jeb Bush decides not to run. Romney seems to think of his own campaign as a kind of alternate to a Jeb Bush candidacy. But once again, the reasoning relies on dubious assumptions about electability. According to York, "Romney is said to believe that, other than himself, Bush is the only one of the current Republican field who could beat Hillary Clinton in a general election." How's that for unshakable confidence?

There’s still no agenda, just a sense of unease amongst an influential part of the Republican donor class that Romney could be the best hope they have. That a Romney run is being discussed as a live possibility suggests that some of the party's old guard is worried about losing that influence.

They're not the only ones with an interest in a Romney run, however. York quotes a GOP operative who suggests another reason why some in the party want to keep the Romney 2016 dream alive: money. Romney spent a lot of it in 2012, and there are plenty of people in the GOP campaign business who stand to make quite a bit from another run. "All his people want him to run again because they made so much money off it the last time," the operative, who didn’t work on Romney’s last campaign, tells York.

In other words, the case for Romney in 2016 is rather like the case for Romney in 2012: Romney, who was in the GOP primary fray in 2008 as well, would still like to be president, there are some party bigwigs who see him as their best shot, and some campaign professionals would like to cash in on yet another sure-to-be-pricey run. That’s not an argument for why Romney should run. It’s an argument for why he shouldn’t.
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Re: Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2014, 01:03:38 pm »
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Re: Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2014, 01:22:50 pm »
Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?

To help elect Hellary for president...


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Re: Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2014, 01:37:51 pm »
The current "boomlet" for Mitt Romney is perhaps the product of several independent factors.
 
One is the failure of any leader to yet emerge from the GOP pack. Another might be the sense of "buyer's remorse" on the part of some voters who voted for Obama and now wish they hadn't. Finally, there is the matter of Mitt's own advisers, at least some of whom (as I have heard through the grapevine) are urging him to run.
 
I honestly hope that he does not. Republicans are in desperate need of new leadership.
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Re: Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2014, 11:11:38 pm »
I honestly hope that he does not. Republicans are in desperate need of new leadership.

And where would that leader be? There is a pretty important election in Nov. Many believe that it is extremely important to depose Harry Reid. So if there is a GOP leader anywhere, why isn't he or she paying attention? Romney certainly is - he's raising money and campaigning in many key states. Palin and Jeb Bush are campaigning for some candidates too, but they're not "new names" either. A leader won't show up out of nowhere in two short years.
And a leader is not someone who would just sit out the election because the candidates aren't sufficiently conservative. Leaders have to set the pace, not just wait for the circumstances they favor to occur. Waiting and whining is 0bama's leadership style, and we've seen how well that works.

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Re: Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2014, 11:19:53 pm »
To help elect Hellary for president...

...which is exactly what the left is saying:  "nominate Hillary and elect Romney".  Go figure... :pondering:
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Re: Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2014, 11:50:56 pm »
This will sound much more cynical than I intend it to but... who is better?
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Re: Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2014, 12:20:13 am »
This will sound much more cynical than I intend it to but... who is better?

Cynical or not, you're right. And that is the problem. That 47% comment is gold for the Democrats. It resonated in a bad way with the voters. Nominate Romney, and Hillary is a sure bet to win.

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Re: Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2014, 12:45:44 am »
Cynical or not, you're right. And that is the problem. That 47% comment is gold for the Democrats. It resonated in a bad way with the voters. Nominate Romney, and Hillary is a sure bet to win.
My stance on it is this:

You have two ways of getting people to vote for you.

1. You can pander to the voters and promise to give them what they want.

2. You can expose their ignorance and hope they wake up.

Because the first one's easier, it's almost universal in modern American politics. Hence why we have some of the dumbest voters in the world.

Yet Romney's comment only works for the second approach. It requires vigorous, persistent pressure on the baiters, and Romney backed off the comment too quickly for any gains to be made of it.
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Re: Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2014, 01:23:18 am »
My stance on it is this:

You have two ways of getting people to vote for you.

1. You can pander to the voters and promise to give them what they want.

2. You can expose their ignorance and hope they wake up.

Because the first one's easier, it's almost universal in modern American politics. Hence why we have some of the dumbest voters in the world.

Yet Romney's comment only works for the second approach. It requires vigorous, persistent pressure on the baiters, and Romney backed off the comment too quickly for any gains to be made of it.

He did back off of it a tad too soon.  But like the various wars on women, blacks, gays, etc, the Democrats may have used up all the value they could get on the 47% comment.  Regardless of what people here say, 2016 isn't going to be as easy as 2012 was for the Dems.  Romney is a legitimate candidate, and all the BS about dogs on cars, killing women, tax fraud and the 47%, Dems will have to come up with something new to blast Romney with.  He may not have the fire of Cruz, but he's been around the block, has more experience than anyone, and doesn't come across as an a__hole.  I do think the GOP nominee will be a former or present governor. 

Having said that, all of them will do a modicum of pandering.  It's what you do!
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Re: Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2014, 12:22:09 am »
...which is exactly what the left is saying:  "nominate Hillary and elect Romney".  Go figure... :pondering:

You don't believe anything the left is saying, do you?

They want you to take the bait and nominate Romney so Hellary can get elected.

You should know this tactic by now...





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Re: Why Would Anyone Want Mitt Romney to Run for President in 2016?
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2014, 02:45:20 am »
You don't believe anything the left is saying, do you?

They want you to take the bait and nominate Romney so Hellary can get elected.

You should know this tactic by now...

The tactics of the left are deplorable, but any reading from any leftwing forum shows they despise Hillary.  They truly want either Pocahontas or Sanders right now.  The money though is with Hillary.  The right wants Cruz or Paul right now, but the money is with Romney, Christie or Bush. 

Time will likely change it all, but I can see a dark horse on the Democrat side like O'Malley or even  Webb coming in to bring both liberal sides together.  On the right?  It's going to be tougher because the Republicans are more split ideologically than the Dems...right now.
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