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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #75 on: April 20, 2014, 11:06:17 pm »
No, last time you cut and ran and didn't show up for 3 months when someone said boo to you.  Now THAT's directed at you.

So was the last one.

Own it.
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #76 on: April 20, 2014, 11:13:35 pm »
And that is why the people who support Bundy are CORRECTLY pissed!  They recognized the level of flim-flammery that goes on, while the "hale fellow well met, Constitutional cuckolds" dance with the angels on the head of a pin.
On this day, it's important to remember, it's not the word of the law but the INTENTION of the law.  You don't want to help your neighbor when his ox has a broken leg in the field, fine.  Just stop irritating and blocking those who would!

Strange how your answer to my post pissed off someone else entirely!

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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #77 on: April 20, 2014, 11:15:43 pm »
I think Mac posted too soon re the civility of this thread...
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #78 on: April 20, 2014, 11:15:55 pm »
This has been a most informative thread.  We shouldn't ruin it now.

Let's acknowledge that both sides brought their best arguments and as Conservatives, we're bound to be objective and judge on law and not emotion.

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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #79 on: April 20, 2014, 11:23:07 pm »
I think Mac posted too soon re the civility of this thread...

Not at all.

In fact, this is the kind of thread that compelled him to come back and say something to Luis.

Terrific...and everybody deserves thanks.   :beer:

Let's just not rub a fellow member's face in it, just because he/she's reached his limit on intrusive government and their selective laws they wish to enforce when it comes to Tea Party citizens, etc..


 
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #80 on: April 20, 2014, 11:25:38 pm »
I think Mac posted too soon re the civility of this thread...
LOL..it went straight down hill after that post. Maybe Mac should return to his bat cave.
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #81 on: April 20, 2014, 11:55:13 pm »
LOL..it went straight down hill after that post. Maybe Mac should return to his bat cave.
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #82 on: April 20, 2014, 11:56:15 pm »
I think Mac posted too soon re the civility of this thread...

My good timing record of zero is still in tact!
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #83 on: April 21, 2014, 12:04:38 am »
My good timing record of zero is still in tact!

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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #84 on: April 21, 2014, 12:20:02 am »
This is not...my...bat cave...?  :smokin:

I for one am happy to see you MAC.
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #85 on: April 21, 2014, 12:34:57 am »
This is not...my...bat cave...?  :smokin:

I for one am happy to see you MAC.

Hey, I don't even know you and I'm glad to see anyone with that many posts.
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« Reply #86 on: April 21, 2014, 12:41:54 am »
MAC is among the best!  Wicked smart. I respect him immensely.
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #87 on: April 21, 2014, 12:54:56 am »
Strange how your answer to my post pissed off someone else entirely!

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And my post wasn't even directed at you personally either.  It was a gripe toward:
Glenn Beck
Jonah Goldberg
Tucker Carlson

All of whom, I understand don't the offended party's viewership/readership but notheless reach a person or two combined.
Why?  Well, because I'm a bastard, that's why.

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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #88 on: April 21, 2014, 01:09:13 am »
I for one am happy to see you MAC.

Thank you Luis.  Got to admit, we did have some good exchanges...most of the time,  :pondering:
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #89 on: April 21, 2014, 01:11:22 am »
MAC is among the best!  Wicked smart. I respect him immensely.

Thank you for the kind words my friend.  Guess I was just a little late after the invite.  My bad! 
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #90 on: April 21, 2014, 01:14:07 am »
This is not...my...bat cave...?  :smokin:

I for one am happy to see you MAC.

Hey, I don't even know you and I'm glad to see anyone with that many posts.
Join the fun, it's a laugh a minute around here.

Appreciate it.  It's always been a laugh a minute....well....almost always!
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #91 on: April 21, 2014, 01:22:36 am »
This is not...my...bat cave...?  :smokin:

I'm glad to see you here as well and pretty darned sure that I do know you but not from this site.

I left MACV in November 1967. Presumedly just before you arrived.
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #92 on: April 21, 2014, 01:29:00 am »
And my post wasn't even directed at you personally either.  It was a gripe toward:
Glenn Beck
Jonah Goldberg
Tucker Carlson

All of whom, I understand don't the offended party's viewership/readership but notheless reach a person or two combined.

Didn't take it that way. 

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« Reply #93 on: April 21, 2014, 01:40:07 am »
Ocean wrote:  "Mac, Mac, Mac!!  When are you going to come back on a more permanent basis?"

We can always debate tax policy Ocean... :beer:

Anyway, hello to everyone here, especially all my old buds.


Bigun's a much better interlocutor for that.

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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #94 on: April 21, 2014, 01:54:35 am »
I'm glad to see you here as well and pretty darned sure that I do know you but not from this site.

I left MACV in November 1967. Presumedly just before you arrived.

I've not been on too many sites Bigun, and other than TOS which I left in '07 with many others "deportees" they've all gone to the forum graveyard.  And I haven't been on any forum for a couple of years.  But if you were on any of the post-07 start-ups, we might have met.

Yeah, I didn't get 'in country' until Sept 68.  Were you with 5th SF?
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« Reply #95 on: April 21, 2014, 02:09:59 am »
I've not been on too many sites Bigun, and other than TOS which I left in '07 with many others "deportees" they've all gone to the forum graveyard.  And I haven't been on any forum for a couple of years.  But if you were on any of the post-07 start-ups, we might have met.

Yeah, I didn't get 'in country' until Sept 68.  Were you with 5th SF?

Yes indeed! I was a CRYPTO guy. Worked mostly with the Vietnamese guys.

I remember you from TOS (my handle there was the same as here).  Loved that place from March of 98 till the run up to the last election when the religious bigots took over the place and ran me off.
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #96 on: April 21, 2014, 02:15:13 am »
Yes indeed! I was a CRYPTO guy. Worked mostly with the Vietnamese guys.

I remember you from TOS (my handle there was the same as here).  Loved that place from March of 98 till the run up to the last election when the religious bigots took over the place and ran me off.

Welcome home.  Was with CCN (Command and Control North) with MACVSOG.  Spent the last couple of months in Group. 

Can't believe you lasted in TOS that long.  It was okay if you stayed away from religion and politics.  Sorta like family reunions.
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« Reply #97 on: April 21, 2014, 02:21:13 am »
Welcome home.  Was with CCN (Command and Control North) with MACVSOG.  Spent the last couple of months in Group. 

Can't believe you lasted in TOS that long.  It was okay if you stayed away from religion and politics.  Sorta like family reunions.

And welcome home to you as well! I pretty much followed the religion part but not so much on the politics part. LOL!

I did a LOT of advocating for the  Fairtax over there just as I do here.
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #98 on: April 21, 2014, 03:13:06 am »
And my post wasn't even directed at you personally either.  It was a gripe toward:
Glenn Beck
Jonah Goldberg
Tucker Carlson

All of whom, I understand don't the offended party's viewership/readership but notheless reach a person or two combined.

You're so incredibly disingenuous.

Imagine for a minute that this was a discussion on black/white racial inequality, and that I was the one black guy on the thread arguing that such inequality existed, when you comment that "most n$#^ers think that way", and when I take offense at the slur, your best response is "I was talking about other n$#^ers that are not here" because you lack both the courage and the intelligence to stand by your own words.

Well, when you decide to call the people who hold the same position that I hold on this debate "Constitutional cuckolds", then you're saying that I am a "Constitutional cuckold". 

You both talk a lot of smack about facing down the gubmint from the comfort of your living room, but I when I challenge you, your convictions fold up like a cheap suit and you start claiming that you didn't mean a word of what you said.

Have the courage to own what you said, and that you said it to someone that's here, not people who have zero chance of reading this thread.
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Re: Why ranchers support "hero" Cliven Bundy
« Reply #99 on: April 21, 2014, 04:16:10 am »
Thank you for the kind words my friend.  Guess I was just a little late after the invite.  My bad!

I meant every word. It is so nice seeing you, friend.

I have taken a break also. I needed to reduce stress wherever I could and engaging in discussions at times caused unneeded... well, for lack of a better word, anxiety. The path our country is on hasn't helped.

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