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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2013, 10:46:44 pm »
The majority of the conservative base is conservative.
What needs to be Dialed Back are the RINOs and idiots, eg "Boner" as exhibit A.
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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2013, 02:12:38 am »
The GOP is going to blow itself up by pushing through amnesty.  All the positives it is gaining from OCare will be blown out of the water.


Actually the pro-life and pro-choice crowd pretty much zero each other out. The illegal under most circumstances carry the majority here




On page 3 off that Gallup survey, you will find the 77% to 22% statistic, favoring legal abortion in cases of rape.

That is why I acknowledged there are a range of variations on being for or against legal abortion. The VERY MOST extreme case is the point I have made.
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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2013, 02:16:53 am »
On page 3 off that Gallup survey, you will find the 77% to 22% statistic, favoring legal abortion in cases of rape.

That is why I acknowledged there are a range of variations on being for or against legal abortion. The VERY MOST extreme case is the point I have made.

Yes, but go back and look at what you wrote... you didn't state due to rape...  this is what you said to back up your percentages....

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I stated that position was way, way at odds with public opinion, in which by 77% to 22& people think abortion should be legal.
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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2013, 02:58:51 am »
Yes, but go back and look at what you wrote... you didn't state due to rape...  this is what you said to back up your percentages....
I made the mistake of not completing the sentence with "in cases of rape." Sorry.

I also believe I wrote it out completely and correctly several other times.

My mistake  doesn't alter the substantive point that these Tea Party candidates held a very unpopular position, and they lost their elections.





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« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2013, 03:07:43 am »
How stupid and unsophisticated, for me to not appreciate the analysis and nuance of losing.


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« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2013, 03:09:43 am »
I made the mistake of not completing the sentence with "in cases of rape." Sorry.

I also believe I wrote it out completely and correctly several other times.

My mistake  doesn't alter the substantive point that these Tea Party candidates held a very unpopular position, and they lost their elections.

They lost because they were poor candidates, not because they were Tea Party. Same with the candidates Rove bet the farm on (who lost badly) - like the guy running up in Montana who should have won easily and didn't.........   

........and yes I agree Sharon Angle was a terrible candidate as was O'Donnell.. but that didn't excuse Rove going after O'Donnell the very minute Hannity announced on the air she had won the primary. IF - as you often post - we are supposed to swallow hard and support the candidate in a race then it applies to Rove and Company as well and he did everything he could to see to it she lost in DE.  Just because she had defeated the guy paying Rove to run his campaign didn't excuse Rove not either shutting up or offering her some helpful advice.  You do realize if Rove, McCain, Cornyn had their way the GOP senator today would be Charlie Crist - not Marco Rubio. 

Also I thought then and still do that Missouri should have elected Steelman in the primary - she could have defeated McCaskill easily.... McCaskill WANTED to run against Akin and spent a ton of money to be certain he was her opposition.  The pathetic thing here is the RNSC should have offset that in MO and helped the female in the race - but she WAS Tea Party so never mind she would have been the best person to oppose McCaskill heave forbid the good ole boys in the GOP support a candidate who had the chance to win.  Bruener might have stood a chance to win, but Steelman had the best chance against a candidate like McCaskill.

and for the record NO ONE wanted Akin to stay in the race and if the man had a shred of love for his country or the party he would not have stayed in the race.
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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2013, 04:05:00 am »
The fundamental problem with many of the policies proposed under the rubric of social conservativism is that they are radically antithetical to the fundamental principles of individual liberty and freedom that are supposed to undergird conservativism in general.

To put it bluntly, the policies social conservatives wish to enact with respect to abortion are about as statist and controlling as a lot of democrat/socialist policies are, such as Obamacare.  This is particularly so at the federal level:  conservatives insist, in the abstract, that the federal government be cut back to the limited range of powers they believe the Constitution gives to the federal government - based on a fairly narrow reading of the Constitution - but when it comes to concrete policies social conservatives throw that belief out the window.  There is nothing in the Constitution that authorizes the federal government to get involved in social issues like abortion.  Period.  End of discussion.  And yet social conservatives consistently want to use the power of the federal government to prohibit abortion.

One cannot have one's cake and eat it, too; social conservatives can either have a limited federal government that exercises only those powers enumerated in the Constitution, or they can have an unlimited federal government that exercises whatever powers the party in power wishes to exercise, without regard to what the Constitution says.  They cannot have both.  If social conservatives really do believe in the former - that the federal government is limited - then they must accept the fact that they cannot use the power of the federal government to prohibit abortion; if social conservatives belief the latter - that they can have the federal government ban abortion notwithstanding the Constitution - then they are no better than the democrats/liberals whom they criticize for ignoring the limits on the federal government and enacting a comprehensive federal regime of social engineering.

That is the policy level of discussion; it's fairly academic, but it does expose the essential hypocrisy of social conservatives when it comes to issues like abortion.  Millenials appear to be becoming disenchanted with the hypocrisy of the democrats/liberals, so it beggars the imagination why anyone would think they'd be attracted by another equally hypocritical social regime.

At the practical, real life, level, most younger women (of my generation and younger)  - as has been explained to me by my wife, in no uncertain terms - do not see abortion as a desirable thing, as something to do on a whim, but neither do they want to feel trapped by the fear that if, for some unforseen, godforsaken, reason they should become pregnant, such as by being raped - which would include being sexually abused by a family member - they would have no other alternative than resorting to the sort of dirty backroom abortions that were the only sort available to most women prior to Roe v. Wade.  It is the sort of existential fear that is not completely rational but which cuts to the core nonetheless.  It is for that reason, and for many women that reason alone, that they do not want abortion to be eliminated.  As such, they will not support someone who constantly threatens to ban abortion, even if they would otherwise agree with that same person on many other issues.  Existential fears can be like that; they must be assuaged before anything else can be considered.

With respect to younger men, the existential fear isn't there - getting pregnant just isn't an option for men - but they do have an interest in responding to the fears of women, and at least some of them can empathize because they too have existential fears.

Social conservatives' constant threats to prohibit abortion - both at the federal and/or the state level - trigger that existential fear and thus chase off a lot of women - and men - who might otherwise agree with them on a range of other issues.

This is not to say that social conservatives should simply shut up and pretend that they don't care about abortion anymore; they shouldn't.  However, it does mean that they should stop trying to use the wrong tools - the punitive, coercive, violent force of the government - to address abortion and should start finding better tools, such trying to convince others that abortion is wrong and to be avoided at all costs solely through the power of persuasion - of testifying to The Truth, if you will.  In other words, private action, not government action, is more likely to constructively address abortion.  After all, if you've managed to persuade everyone that abortion is wrong, then there is no need to have any laws that prohibit abortion.

Until social conservatives can come to terms with these two basic facts - at the least - they will continue to marginalize themselves and, by extension, the GOP.

A similar argument applies to the strident, sometimes xenophobic, views of many social conservatives on immigration.


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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2013, 04:08:24 am »
I made the mistake of not completing the sentence with "in cases of rape." Sorry.

I also believe I wrote it out completely and correctly several other times.

My mistake  doesn't alter the substantive point that these Tea Party candidates held a very unpopular position, and they lost their elections.


While I am not unsympathetic to your implied conclusion, I do have to point out that mere correlation - holding an unpopular position and losing an election - is not proof of causation - that holding an unpopular position caused the election loss.  No doubt, however, holding an unpopular position does contribute to an election loss.

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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2013, 05:24:12 am »
"No doubt, however, holding an unpopular position does contribute to an election loss."

I suppose we're speaking only about Pubbies here because O B A M A has proven that not to be the case.
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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2013, 05:26:43 am »
"No doubt, however, holding an unpopular position does contribute to an election loss."

I suppose we're speaking only about Pubbies here because O B A M A has proven that not to be the case.

Really?  You're drawing the same false conclusion.  Just because holding an unpopular position has a negative effect on one's polling results does not automatically mean that one will lose the election.  Very, very few elections hinge on only one issue.  Furthermore, much in politics is relative, as in life, and if one's opponent holds positions that are more unpopular than one's own unpopular positions, then the net result is that one's unpopular positions are unlikely to be a detriment.

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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2013, 06:08:47 am »
It does not surprise me. The one thing the Catholic church likes to do is instill a feeling of guilt in a person growing up. Once that child has grown they tend to go to the opposite side of the spectrum to that which the church kept talking about being sinful trying to get rid of that guilt bestowed on them.  Instead of making sure a child knows why we should believe abortion to be wrong they pound at it being a sin. I explained to my children that the life a person is responsible for starting should be considered every bit as important as their own. That the child that grows inside us is a separate human being not an extension of ourselves that we can kill because it is an inconvenience or not the right time in our lives to have one. The person who chooses to have sex and then got pregnant is directly responsible for their actions and how they treat this other human being and it is pretty easy these days to use birth control so your odds of getting pregnant go way down. I never mention sin because it brings up negative reactions. I talk about the responsibility they need to be thinking about when they have a sexual relationship whether in or outside of marriage. I think the church  talks about venial and mortal sin way to much when they need to be talking about what is good for us to do or what is evil for us to do because we are suppose to be responsible human beings who care about others not just ourselves. They also have way to many sermons on collection money needed for the church instead of sermons that feed the soul of it's members. I have experience having gone to mass every day but Saturday during my 12 years at a catholic school so don't say I have no  knowledge of what I am talking about. I am a conservative and I vote with my conscience if more people did we would have fewer crooks in leadership positions. I am not going to change due to the republicans now being more democratic in their issues. We don't need a one party system and I do know there are many of us out here who think that and many have given up on voting at all.

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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2013, 06:47:23 am »
The fundamental problem with many of the policies proposed under the rubric of social conservativism is that they are radically antithetical to the fundamental principles of individual liberty and freedom that are supposed to undergird conservativism in general.

To put it bluntly, the policies social conservatives wish to enact with respect to abortion are about as statist and controlling as a lot of democrat/socialist policies are, such as Obamacare.  This is particularly so at the federal level:  conservatives insist, in the abstract, that the federal government be cut back to the limited range of powers they believe the Constitution gives to the federal government - based on a fairly narrow reading of the Constitution - but when it comes to concrete policies social conservatives throw that belief out the window.  There is nothing in the Constitution that authorizes the federal government to get involved in social issues like abortion.  Period.  End of discussion.  And yet social conservatives consistently want to use the power of the federal government to prohibit abortion.

One cannot have one's cake and eat it, too; social conservatives can either have a limited federal government that exercises only those powers enumerated in the Constitution, or they can have an unlimited federal government that exercises whatever powers the party in power wishes to exercise, without regard to what the Constitution says.  They cannot have both.  If social conservatives really do believe in the former - that the federal government is limited - then they must accept the fact that they cannot use the power of the federal government to prohibit abortion; if social conservatives belief the latter - that they can have the federal government ban abortion notwithstanding the Constitution - then they are no better than the democrats/liberals whom they criticize for ignoring the limits on the federal government and enacting a comprehensive federal regime of social engineering.

That is the policy level of discussion; it's fairly academic, but it does expose the essential hypocrisy of social conservatives when it comes to issues like abortion.  Millenials appear to be becoming disenchanted with the hypocrisy of the democrats/liberals, so it beggars the imagination why anyone would think they'd be attracted by another equally hypocritical social regime.

At the practical, real life, level, most younger women (of my generation and younger)  - as has been explained to me by my wife, in no uncertain terms - do not see abortion as a desirable thing, as something to do on a whim, but neither do they want to feel trapped by the fear that if, for some unforseen, godforsaken, reason they should become pregnant, such as by being raped - which would include being sexually abused by a family member - they would have no other alternative than resorting to the sort of dirty backroom abortions that were the only sort available to most women prior to Roe v. Wade.  It is the sort of existential fear that is not completely rational but which cuts to the core nonetheless.  It is for that reason, and for many women that reason alone, that they do not want abortion to be eliminated.  As such, they will not support someone who constantly threatens to ban abortion, even if they would otherwise agree with that same person on many other issues.  Existential fears can be like that; they must be assuaged before anything else can be considered.

With respect to younger men, the existential fear isn't there - getting pregnant just isn't an option for men - but they do have an interest in responding to the fears of women, and at least some of them can empathize because they too have existential fears.

Social conservatives' constant threats to prohibit abortion - both at the federal and/or the state level - trigger that existential fear and thus chase off a lot of women - and men - who might otherwise agree with them on a range of other issues.

This is not to say that social conservatives should simply shut up and pretend that they don't care about abortion anymore; they shouldn't.  However, it does mean that they should stop trying to use the wrong tools - the punitive, coercive, violent force of the government - to address abortion and should start finding better tools, such trying to convince others that abortion is wrong and to be avoided at all costs solely through the power of persuasion - of testifying to The Truth, if you will.  In other words, private action, not government action, is more likely to constructively address abortion.  After all, if you've managed to persuade everyone that abortion is wrong, then there is no need to have any laws that prohibit abortion.

Until social conservatives can come to terms with these two basic facts - at the least - they will continue to marginalize themselves and, by extension, the GOP.

A similar argument applies to the strident, sometimes xenophobic, views of many social conservatives on immigration.

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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2013, 07:02:49 am »
To put it bluntly, the policies social conservatives wish to enact with respect to abortion are about as statist and controlling as a lot of democrat/socialist policies are, such as Obamacare.  This is particularly so at the federal level:  conservatives insist, in the abstract, that the federal government be cut back to the limited range of powers they believe the Constitution gives to the federal government - based on a fairly narrow reading of the Constitution - but when it comes to concrete policies social conservatives throw that belief out the window

Your entire argument is based on an a priori assumption that is in error. You dismiss the humanity of the unborn child (based on what I have no idea). Abortion destroys a human life every time no matter what the stage of development and protecting human life is definitely a concern and obligation of the government of the United States.

 
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« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2013, 07:13:03 am »
To attract millennials, the GOP needs to not dial back on anything, but rather to emphasize the positive advantages of more individual liberty and Federalism.

It needs to paint a stark difference in the future of a nation weighed down by progressive statism, beholden to and dependent on government with the ability to want and achieve a better life stunted by the oppression of a leviathan central planning government.

They need to paint a positive picture of a better world under conservative ideals of less government and more freedom. The GOP needs to talk about jobs, fiscal responsibility, independence. How allowing States to decide how to run things is a far better solution than the oppressive boot of the Federal government on our collective necks.

Don't adopt any ideas from the Democrats, adopt ideas from the founders and run on Federalism. 

Tell the young ones that the only true hope for change lies with them, not with the government, and that the best thing that the Federal government needs to do is get the Hell out of their way.

Let them know that the GOP believes in them, and that we know that given a choice between liberty and dependency, they will chose liberty, and that all we want to do is to clear the way for them.

Tell them to go and own the future.

Be a cockeyed optimist who sees that there is greatness in them, because they're born from greatness.

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Over the years—I won't count if you don't—nothing has been so heartwarming to me as speaking to America's young, and the little ones especially, so fresh-faced and so eager to know. Well, from time to time I've been with them—they will ask about our Constitution. And I hope you Members of Congress will not deem this a breach of protocol if you'll permit me to share these thoughts again with the young people who might be listening or watching this evening. I've read the constitutions of a number of countries, including the Soviet Union's. Now, some people are surprised to hear that they have a constitution, and it even supposedly grants a number of freedoms to its people. Many countries have written into their constitution provisions for freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. Well, if this is true, why is the Constitution of the United States so exceptional?

Well, the difference is so small that it almost escapes you, but it's so great it tells you the whole story in just three words: We the people. In those other constitutions, the Government tells the people of those countries what they're allowed to do. In our Constitution, we the people tell the Government what it can do, and it can do only those things listed in that document and no others. Virtually every other revolution in history has just exchanged one set of rulers for another set of rulers. Our revolution is the first to say the people are the masters and government is their servant. And you young people out there, don't ever forget that. Someday you could be in this room, but wherever you are, America is depending on you to reach your highest and be your best—because here in America, we the people are in charge.

Just three words: We the people—those are the kids on Christmas Day looking out from a frozen sentry post on the 38th parallel in Korea or aboard an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean. A million miles from home, but doing their duty.

We the people—those are the warmhearted whose numbers we can't begin to count, who'll begin the day with a little prayer for hostages they will never know and MIA families they will never meet. Why? Because that's the way we are, this unique breed we call Americans.

We the people—they're farmers on tough times, but who never stop feeding a hungry world. They're the volunteers at the hospital choking back their tears for the hundredth time, caring for a baby struggling for life because of a mother who used drugs. And you'll forgive me a special memory—it's a million mothers like Nelle Reagan who never knew a stranger or turned a hungry person away from her kitchen door.

We the people—they refute last week's television commentary downgrading our optimism and our idealism. They are the entrepreneurs, the builders, the pioneers, and a lot of regular folks—the true heroes of our land who make up the most uncommon nation of doers in history. You know they're Americans because their spirit is as big as the universe and their hearts are bigger than their spirits.

We the people—starting the third century of a dream and standing up to some cynic who's trying to tell us we're not going to get any better. Are we at the end? Well, I can't tell it any better than the real thing—a story recorded by James Madison from the final moments of the Constitutional Convention, September 17th, 1787. As the last few members signed the document, Benjamin Franklin—the oldest delegate at 81 years and in frail health—looked over toward the chair where George Washington daily presided. At the back of the chair was painted the picture of a Sun on the horizon. And turning to those sitting next to him, Franklin observed that artists found it difficult in their painting to distinguish between a rising and a setting Sun.

Well, I know if we were there, we could see those delegates sitting around Franklin-leaning in to listen more closely to him. And then Dr. Franklin began to share his deepest hopes and fears about the outcome of their efforts, and this is what he said: "I have often looked at that picture behind the President without being able to tell whether it was a rising or setting Sun: But now at length I have the happiness to know that it is a rising and not a setting Sun." Well, you can bet it's rising because, my fellow citizens, America isn't finished. Her best days have just begun.

Thank you, God bless you, and God bless America.

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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2013, 03:48:23 pm »
To attract millennials, the GOP needs to not dial back on anything, but rather to emphasize the positive advantages of more individual liberty and Federalism.

It needs to paint a stark difference in the future of a nation weighed down by progressive statism, beholden to and dependent on government with the ability to want and achieve a better life stunted by the oppression of a leviathan central planning government.

They need to paint a positive picture of a better world under conservative ideals of less government and more freedom. The GOP needs to talk about jobs, fiscal responsibility, independence. How allowing States to decide how to run things is a far better solution than the oppressive boot of the Federal government on our collective necks.

Don't adopt any ideas from the Democrats, adopt ideas from the founders and run on Federalism. 

Tell the young ones that the only true hope for change lies with them, not with the government, and that the best thing that the Federal government needs to do is get the Hell out of their way.

Let them know that the GOP believes in them, and that we know that given a choice between liberty and dependency, they will chose liberty, and that all we want to do is to clear the way for them.

Tell them to go and own the future.

Be a cockeyed optimist who sees that there is greatness in them, because they're born from greatness.


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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2013, 03:52:44 pm »
To attract millennials, the GOP needs to not dial back on anything, but rather to emphasize the positive advantages of more individual liberty and Federalism.

It needs to paint a stark difference in the future of a nation weighed down by progressive statism, beholden to and dependent on government with the ability to want and achieve a better life stunted by the oppression of a leviathan central planning government.

They need to paint a positive picture of a better world under conservative ideals of less government and more freedom. The GOP needs to talk about jobs, fiscal responsibility, independence. How allowing States to decide how to run things is a far better solution than the oppressive boot of the Federal government on our collective necks.

Don't adopt any ideas from the Democrats, adopt ideas from the founders and run on Federalism. 

Tell the young ones that the only true hope for change lies with them, not with the government, and that the best thing that the Federal government needs to do is get the Hell out of their way.

Let them know that the GOP believes in them, and that we know that given a choice between liberty and dependency, they will chose liberty, and that all we want to do is to clear the way for them.

Tell them to go and own the future.

Be a cockeyed optimist who sees that there is greatness in them, because they're born from greatness.

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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2013, 03:57:13 pm »
There are many social conservative to whom liberty is anathema.

Sadly true.
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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2013, 04:33:32 pm »
To attract millennials, the GOP needs to not dial back on anything, but rather to emphasize the positive advantages of more individual liberty and Federalism.

It needs to paint a stark difference in the future of a nation weighed down by progressive statism, beholden to and dependent on government with the ability to want and achieve a better life stunted by the oppression of a leviathan central planning government.

They need to paint a positive picture of a better world under conservative ideals of less government and more freedom. The GOP needs to talk about jobs, fiscal responsibility, independence. How allowing States to decide how to run things is a far better solution than the oppressive boot of the Federal government on our collective necks.

Don't adopt any ideas from the Democrats, adopt ideas from the founders and run on Federalism. 

Tell the young ones that the only true hope for change lies with them, not with the government, and that the best thing that the Federal government needs to do is get the Hell out of their way.

Let them know that the GOP believes in them, and that we know that given a choice between liberty and dependency, they will chose liberty, and that all we want to do is to clear the way for them.

Tell them to go and own the future.

Be a cockeyed optimist who sees that there is greatness in them, because they're born from greatness.

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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2013, 04:44:04 pm »
Luis... you can piss me off with the best of 'em... but, I am damn glad you are around. (That's a compliment, btw...)

A sentiment that I pray is shared by Mrs. Gonzalez.
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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2013, 04:44:09 pm »
To attract millennials, the GOP needs to not dial back on anything, but rather to emphasize the positive advantages of more individual liberty and Federalism.

It needs to paint a stark difference in the future of a nation weighed down by progressive statism, beholden to and dependent on government with the ability to want and achieve a better life stunted by the oppression of a leviathan central planning government.

They need to paint a positive picture of a better world under conservative ideals of less government and more freedom. The GOP needs to talk about jobs, fiscal responsibility, independence. How allowing States to decide how to run things is a far better solution than the oppressive boot of the Federal government on our collective necks.

Don't adopt any ideas from the Democrats, adopt ideas from the founders and run on Federalism. 

Tell the young ones that the only true hope for change lies with them, not with the government, and that the best thing that the Federal government needs to do is get the Hell out of their way.

Let them know that the GOP believes in them, and that we know that given a choice between liberty and dependency, they will chose liberty, and that all we want to do is to clear the way for them.

Tell them to go and own the future.

Be a cockeyed optimist who sees that there is greatness in them, because they're born from greatness.

What can I say??   Bravo! 


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Re: To Attract Millennials, GOP Must Dial Back the Social Conservatism
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2013, 05:32:30 pm »
A sentiment that I pray is shared by Mrs. Gonzalez.
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