Trump's message to Hamas...[peace deal reached]

[libertybele]

I heard plenty of cheers as well @Right_in_Virginia .

And truthfully, there are people in this country that disagree with the current admin in this country and boo Trump...or whoever is president.

I don't see that Israel is much different than the US or most other countries. Some people like, some people don't. There is a pretty large constituency of liberals there. Just as there is here.

But I stand with BiBi and Israel as a nation.

 

[Hoodat]

No, it's not @Cyber Liberty   Benjamin Netanyahu has done more to harm and divide Israel in the last 10 years than any other politician, ever. 

[Hoodat]

It consumes so much of you that you don't bother to answer pings to other threads asking your opinion about political races in Virginia!

The forum's ignore list is not by category. 

Yet you just responded here to the same poster.  Go figure.  So, your insinuation about the questioner being on ignore was yet another LIE.

[libertybele]

@Right_in_Virginia where is your solid proof that Bibi is the monster that you claim him to be?  Propaganda runs deep, facts get distorted, history gets rewritten so the only thing that we can count on is what is clearly stated in the Bible regarding Israel.

Israel remains standing and is saved.  Whether it happens through Bibi or not I don't know. Whether that happens in our lifetime is also unknown.

Not all of Israel are fans of Bibi, but he is their leader and they all have to deal with the cards dealt them right now.

You certainly have made it seem that Bibi has deliberately put the Israelis in jeopardy because of his lack of leadership and faithfulness to the people.

So, I'll ask you then based on your opinion and what you have posted; who is the bigger monster that the Jewish people need to fear, Hamas or Bibi?

[Hoodat]

I don't know @libertybele --- but this was the longest I've heard Jared speak and he appeared sincere --- in wanting a lasting peace, fair to both sides.

Hamas doesn't want peace.  Read their charter.

You do remember Hamas, right?  And their supporters?  Surely you remember.  You were the one here comparing them to 18th century American patriots.  Hamas.  Yeah, that was you doing that.  And everyone here knows it.  Here's the photo again:



Look at the size of that crowd celebrating 30 years of Jew-killing by Hamas.  And YOU compared them to American patriots demonstrating against the British monarchy.  So stop bullshitting us about your love for Israel.  Do you know what happens to all liars?  Rev 21:8

[Hoodat]

And then there's this:  Netanyahu, Likud Party Surge in Polls After Victory, Hostage Deal

[Hoodat]

Bibi tells it like it is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxIl0xTnExA

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia where is your solid proof that Bibi is the monster that you claim him to be?

I have presented my case, with specificity @libertybele  --- and I have done so ad nauseam.  It is now up to you to disprove it to your heart's content.   Or, we can simply agree to disagree as we have on other issues.  No harm, no foul.

You certainly have made it seem that Bibi has deliberately put the Israelis in jeopardy because of his lack of leadership and faithfulness to the people.

For two years I have posted link after link presenting information and opinion that Netanyahu's decades of gamesmanship with his most sacred responsibilities blew up in his face on Oct 7 and splattered all over Israeli lives and their futures.  It is my opinion that October 7 is the day Mr. Security's chickens came home to roost.

So, I'll ask you then based on your opinion and what you have posted; who is the bigger monster that the Jewish people need to fear, Hamas or Bibi?

Are you asking:  "Who's the bigger monster to be feared by the Israelis:  The one plotting to kill them or the one promising to keep them safe with his fingers crossed behind his back?"

[Idiot]

Bibi tells it like it is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxIl0xTnExA

Excellent watch.

[libertybele]

I have presented my case, with specificity @libertybele  --- and I have done so ad nauseam.  It is now up to you to disprove it to your heart's content.   Or, we can simply agree to disagree as we have on other issues.  No harm, no foul.

For two years I have posted link after link presenting information and opinion that Netanyahu's decades of gamesmanship with his most sacred responsibilities blew up in his face on Oct 7 and splattered all over Israeli lives and their futures.  It is my opinion that October 7 is the day Mr. Security's chickens came home to roost.

Are you asking:  "Who's the bigger monster to be feared by the Israelis:  The one plotting to kill them or the one promising to keep them safe with his fingers crossed behind his back?"

@Right_in_Virginia   Ok....I accept fault for not paying more attention to the links that you have provided.  Again though, how much is fact and how much is propaganda? 

It would deeply trouble me and sadden me if indeed Netanyahu was in part responsible for not protecting his own people as you claim which in essence would boil down to years of clever deception.  I still think otherwise.

We will have to agree to disagree on this and I can only pray for the safety of Israel and that  Netanyahu  has the Israeli's best interest at heart. In fact praying also for the innocents that find themselves involved in all of this.

[Kamaji]

I have presented my case, with specificity @libertybele  --- and I have done so ad nauseam.  It is now up to you to disprove it to your heart's content.   Or, we can simply agree to disagree as we have on other issues.  No harm, no foul.

For two years I have posted link after link presenting information and opinion that Netanyahu's decades of gamesmanship with his most sacred responsibilities blew up in his face on Oct 7 and splattered all over Israeli lives and their futures.  It is my opinion that October 7 is the day Mr. Security's chickens came home to roost.

Are you asking:  "Who's the bigger monster to be feared by the Israelis:  The one plotting to kill them or the one promising to keep them safe with his fingers crossed behind his back?"

Hate does not a logical case make.  You’ve proved nothing other than your adoration of Hamas and antisemitism.

[txradioguy]

@Right_in_Virginia   Ok....I accept fault for not paying more attention to the links that you have provided.  Again though, how much is fact and how much is propaganda? 

It would deeply trouble me and sadden me if indeed Netanyahu was in part responsible for not protecting his own people as you claim which in essence would boil down to years of clever deception.  I still think otherwise.

We will have to agree to disagree on this and I can only pray for the safety of Israel and that  Netanyahu  has the Israeli's best interest at heart. In fact praying also for the innocents that find themselves involved in all of this.

Never forget you're dealing with a Hamas and "Palestinian" propagandist.  When she's telling you things like what I put in bold.  It's not coming from a factual knowledge base.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Wow, the personal insults being thrown at me have reached a fever pitch around here, even migrating to other threads.  On the plus side this development provides hours of bonding entertainment for a handful of malcontents  ---- but on the negative side, it stifles conversation, debate, and blocks entrance to the arena of ideas.

So, how about an actual conversation about information?  Before you decide, remember:

* Netanyahu has been at the top of the Israeli power pyramid since James Baker banned him from the State Department over 30 years ago for "lying" --- and Israel has been at war for all 30+ years.

 * Netanyahu's political journey includes six terms as Prime Minister serving for 19 years to date.  The worst attack on the State of Israel occurred n Netanyahu's 17th year as Prime Minister,

* Netanyahu is a mortal politican, not a king,

* Netanyahu is not the only Jew in Israel,

* Wanting a change in Israeli leadership to one that delivers ethical, honest stewardship and is not reliant upon war to retain power --- is a positive for Israel's security, stability and prosperity --- not an endorsement of Hamas, or any enemy of Israel.

* Change doesn't have to be frightening.

[Wingnut]

Wow, the personal insults being thrown at me have reached a fever pitch around here, even migrating to other threads.

I've upped my standards. Now, up yours.

[Kamaji]

Wow, the personal insults being thrown at me have reached a fever pitch around here, even migrating to other threads.  On the plus side this development provides hours of bonding entertainment for a handful of malcontents  ---- but on the negative side, it stifles conversation, debate, and blocks entrance to the arena of ideas.

So, how about an actual conversation about information?  Before you decide, remember:

If you don’t like being called a liar, an antisemite, and a shill for Hamas, then perhaps you should stop lying, get over your antisemitism, and stop shilling for Hamas. 


Facts are facts, regardless of whether you feel insulted by them. 

[txradioguy]

If you don’t like being called a liar, an antisemite, and a shill for Hamas, then perhaps you should stop lying, get over your antisemitism, and stop shilling for Hamas. 


Facts are facts, regardless of whether you feel insulted by them.

QFT

[Cyber Liberty]

If you don’t like being called a liar, an antisemite, and a shill for Hamas, then perhaps you should stop lying, get over your antisemitism, and stop shilling for Hamas. 


Facts are facts, regardless of whether you feel insulted by them.

Awesome!

[Right_in_Virginia]

I see the bonding entertainment crowd is anti- debate. 

[Hoodat]

---- but on the negative side, it stifles conversation, debate, and blocks entrance to the arena of ideas.

So, how about an actual conversation about information?

What a load of crap coming from you.  Do you have any idea how many times I have tried to engage you on these boards?  How many questions I have asked you, only to be met with silence again and again and again?  And I'm not the only one here who has experienced that with you.

A conversation is a two-way street.  But that's not how propagandists like you operate.  They litter the boards with leaflets, and then fly off leaving themselves unavailable for any discussion or explanation on what those leaflets say.  And above everything, they have an overbearing disregard for anything truthful.  Time after time, you have made claims here that are demonstrably false.  Yet when challenged or presented with evidence proving the perfidy of your statements, you simply run away from that "actual conversation" you falsely claim to seek.  And within a few months, you come right back posting the same false claim again, with full knowledge that said claim has already been soundly disproven here.

This is what liars do.  This is what you do.  You're not interested in conversation or debate.

I recall one case back in 2022 where you falsely accused me of posting 'propaganda' from the Kyiv Independent on the Ukraine thread.  So I challenged you to back your claim by citing a single instance of me doing that.  I even said I would donate $100 to TBR if you could show one post of mine where I did that.  And what did you do?  You disappeared.  You ignored my challenge.  You rejected debate.  You rejected conversation.  And worst of all, you let your lie stand.  No retraction.  No admission of a mistake.  Nope, you simply let the lie stand.