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Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« on: August 06, 2025, 11:09:19 am »
Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
WLRN Public Media | By Sergio R. Bustos
Published August 5, 2025 at 4:18 PM EDT
 
A federal judge will begin hearing testimony and arguments Wednesday on a lawsuit seeking to close down Alligator Alcatraz, the controversial immigration detention center located in the remote Everglades.

The lawsuit was filed by Friends of the Everglades and the Center for Biological Diversity against the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Florida Division of Emergency Management and Miami-Dade County.

The lawsuit, filed June 27 alleges state and federal agencies of violating a landmark federal environmental law, the National Environmental Policy Act, in building the detention center in the wetlands of Big Cypress National Preserve in the Everglades. The Miccosukee Tribe has also joined the suit, saying it's built on sacred tribal land.

U.S. District Judge Kathleen Williams is overseeing the case in Miami federal court.

https://www.wlrn.org/law-justice/2025-08-05/federal-judge-to-hear-arguments-on-legality-of-alligator-alcatraz
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2025, 11:11:33 am »
Are they afraid the ecosystem for alligators, snakes, and insects will become toxic from the people who are guests there? :whistle:
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2025, 12:29:03 pm »
Outside his authority.

This is a national security issue which is fully within Presidential authority.
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2025, 01:08:36 pm »
O'Bastard appointee so we already know how this will go.
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2025, 01:33:18 pm »
They built the detention center on a pre-existing airfield.  Trump can always say the magic word ... 'emergency'.
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2025, 02:32:46 pm »
This nonsense would end if Trump cut the number of federal judges by 40%.  They have entirely too mush time on their hands to even consider such cases.  Frivolous.  And anyone appointed by Obama should be removed because if the truth were recognized as the truth, everything he did is invalid.  And we all know why!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump needs to up the numbers by four fold those being deported.
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2025, 02:38:15 pm »
Quote from: DefiantMassRINO on August 06, 2025, 01:33:18 pm
They built the detention center on a pre-existing airfield. 
And I doubt it ever got the attention of "conservation groups" back then.
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2025, 04:47:05 pm »
Quote from: jafo2010 on August 06, 2025, 02:32:46 pm
This nonsense would end if Trump cut the number of federal judges by 40%.  They have entirely too mush time on their hands to even consider such cases.  Frivolous.  And anyone appointed by Obama should be removed because if the truth were recognized as the truth, everything he did is invalid.  And we all know why!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Trump needs to up the numbers by four fold those being deported.
As I understand things, Congress as per Art I sec 8 (not the Executive) is the one that has authority to delete all federal courts of law other than the Supreme Court which takes a Constitutional Amendment.

Congress also has sole authority to remove any federal judges, including those on the Supreme Court
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2025, 04:48:26 pm »
Will these guys be called to testify?
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2025, 05:04:14 pm »
Wasn't the facility and air strip already there?  Only some additional portable buildings were added.  So the complaints are too late?
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2025, 05:46:05 pm »
Fox News
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🚨BREAKING: Federal judge orders halt to "Alligator Alcatraz"
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2025, 05:56:19 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on August 07, 2025, 05:46:05 pm
@FoxNews

🚨BREAKING: Federal judge orders halt to "Alligator Alcatraz"
Was this from yet another Democrat-appointed federal district judge who either 1) wasn't born in the USA; or 2) was appointed to the bench without having any actual judicial experience?
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2025, 05:56:55 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on August 07, 2025, 05:46:05 pm
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🚨BREAKING: Federal judge orders halt to "Alligator Alcatraz"

Again?? 
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2025, 06:12:43 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on August 07, 2025, 05:46:05 pm
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🚨BREAKING: Federal judge orders halt to "Alligator Alcatraz"



Since I wasn't paying complete attention, I thought they halted anymore new structures being built, but may have heard wrong. :shrug:

If so, they will just have to move 'em out and head "em out faster. Not a bad thing.
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2025, 06:17:21 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on August 07, 2025, 05:56:55 pm
Again?? 
NYT,- A federal judge said work must stop for 14 days while she considered arguments that building and operating the immigration detention facility would harm the environment.

cnn,- A federal judge on Thursday ordered a temporary halt to construction at an immigration detention center — built in the middle of the Florida Everglades and dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz” — as attorneys argue whether it violates environmental laws.
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2025, 06:20:49 pm »
Quote from: rustynail on August 07, 2025, 06:17:21 pm
NYT,- A federal judge said work must stop for 14 days while she considered arguments that building and operating the immigration detention facility would harm the environment.

cnn,- A federal judge on Thursday ordered a temporary halt to construction at an immigration detention center — built in the middle of the Florida Everglades and dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz” — as attorneys argue whether it violates environmental laws.

They are a little late...the base has been there for decades.
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Re: Federal judge to hear conservation groups' arguments for shutting down Alligator Alcatraz
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2025, 07:38:47 pm »
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