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Trump doesn't cower.

Isn't Trump the one folks have been berating for a decade because he can't NOT fight with people --- any people?    Why would he begin "kissing someone's feet" at this stage of his life and career?  This is a serious question.

I don't think it's possible to personally threaten Trump at this stage.  He's been under non-stop investigation for a decade, by the authority and full force of the federal government and many of our global allies.  So, if there is a threat, it's likely to something Trump cherishes most, that isn't personal.  Something would have to be at risk of imploding under the weight of discovery and trial ---  destroying more than the effort would save.

Get a grip, man.  :laugh:.  If they thought this could work, they would have done it in 2024 when the bullet failed to do its job


First off, I have many conservative friends, and they saw the same thing I did in his first term.  I did not make a note of when it happened, but Trump's rhetoric and caustic mouth was dramatically toned down in his first term to the point he was almost quiet.  It was very noticeable.

He has been under investigation by mostly clowns.  That means nothing.  For a true deep state entity, it would be nothing for them to approach Trump and tell him one or more of his family will be on a slab unless X, Y, Z happens.  And if I am Trump, I would not trust the CIA, FBI, and the Secret Service as far as I could throw any of them.  Do you honestly believe they were not involved in the Butler, PA attempt on his life?  I guarantee you someone or more than one were involved.  And yet, they are not showing anything coming from investigations to date.  A big fat nothing.  And where is Trump demanding results?  No where!!!

And the reason they did not use the Epstein evidence against Trump indicates that too many of their own were involved, and they do not want that coming out, so they have put a lid on the whole thing.  And Trump will keep that lid on too.

But that will not stop the Democommies from using it as one of the reasons to remove the do nothing Republicans in Congress, and then to remove Trump if they get a +1 majority.  And they can promise just like Trump and then never deliver.

You have heard me say it 50 times here, Trump did NOT keep his promise to end the H1-b Visa Program, he did just the opposite in his first term and has promised tech billionaires to increase the numbers again.  So more USA citizen white collar workers unemployed.  And unless it affects you personally, I have found people do not give a sh*t!!!
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D Dershowitz says he knows Epstein client list names: ‘But I’m bound by confidentiality’
by Ashleigh Fields - 07/10/25 6:29 PM ET

Lawyer Alan Dershowitz on Thursday said he knows the list of names in the Jeffrey Epstein files regarding alleged clients in his international sex trafficking ring.

“I know the names of the individuals. I know why they’re being suppressed. I know who’s suppressing them,” Dershowitz said during an appearance on “The Sean Spicer Show.”

“But I’m bound by confidentiality from a judge and cases, and I can’t disclose what I know,” he added, noting at one point he was falsely named as a client.

The Trump administration vowed earlier this year to release the documents and names of individuals tied to Epstein’s inner circle.

Tech billionaire Elon Musk ignited flames after reminding the public that President Trump was formerly one of Epstein’s acquaintances after dissing the “big, beautiful bill.”

The president brushed off comments related to Epstein earlier this week.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5395597-dershowitz-says-he-knows-epstein-client-list-names-but-im-bound-by-confidentiality/
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Let's assume it's true that Epstein was running a blackmail ring using underage girls to lure in rich and powerful men and use pedophilia tapes for blackmail.  Let's also assume the CIA and Mossad were working and protecting this ring for their own purposes. 

What do we do about it now?  The last known victim of this atrocity recently killed herself --- 25 years after becoming involved with the Epstein ring, and 25 years ago Epstein's hell had already been active for years.

What are the calls for action trying to accomplish?  Realistically:  No one's going to indict the CIA or Mossad. The ringleader and appointed mastermind of the ring is dead and his right hand is in prison.  So, do you prosecute this one pedophile at a time?  Charges would be over 25 years old.  Evidence has been tampered with by the Obama and Biden administrations. Jurisdiction would be an issue with most acts occurring outside the US, both witnesses and victims would be hostile and uncooperative. 

How much time, energy, focus and oxygen do we allow to be sucked out of the work on fixing immigration, the economy, trade, education, wokeism, global unrest and upcoming political races -- in exchange for nothing more than salacious headlines?





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Let's assume it's true that Epstein was running a blackmail ring using underage girls to lure in rich and powerful men and use pedophilia tapes for blackmail.  Let's also assume the CIA and Mossad were working and protecting this ring for their own purposes. 

What do we do about it now?  The last known victim of this atrocity recently killed herself --- 25 years after becoming involved with the Epstein ring, and 25 years ago Epstein's hell had already been active for years.

What are the calls for action trying to accomplish?  Realistically:  No one's going to indict the CIA or Mossad. The ringleader and appointed mastermind of the ring is dead and his right hand is in prison.  So, do you prosecute this one pedophile at a time?  Charges would be over 25 years old.  Evidence has been tampered with by the Obama and Biden administrations. Jurisdiction would be an issue with most acts occurring outside the US, both witnesses and victims would be hostile and uncooperative. 

How much time, energy, focus and oxygen do we allow to be sucked out of the work on fixing immigration, the economy, trade, education, wokeism, global unrest and upcoming political races -- in exchange for nothing more than salacious headlines?

The real question is who else might be currently running such honey trap schemes now that Epstein no longer is?
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The real question is who else might be currently running such honey trap schemes now that Epstein no longer is?

As long as there are CIAs and Mossads, stupid rich and powerful people, and negligent parents there will be honey traps and worse. 





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As long as there are CIAs and Mossads,, stupid rich and powerful people, and negligent parents there will be honey traps and worse.

 :yowsa: Which is why We need to do what JFK threatened so long ago!
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:yowsa: Which is why We need to do what JFK threatened so long ago!

I'm just not seeing anyone stepping up to that plate.   888blackhat

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I'm just not seeing anyone stepping up to that plate.   888blackhat

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Are we talking about Juan Epstein, or some other Epstein?

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Read the entire thread. I think Tucker gets this one right.


https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1943876350919450909
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Read the entire thread. I think Tucker gets this one right.


https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1943876350919450909

I don't have a twitter account, can you give me a very short summary?

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I don't have a twitter account, can you give me a very short summary?

He confirms what I've been saying here for a long time now i.e. Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset/operative from day one and that is why they are protecting his work product. It still has a great deal of value for them. @DB 
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He confirms what I've been saying here for a long time now i.e. Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset/operative from day one and that is why they are protecting his work product. It still has a great deal of value for them. @DB 

None of that could have happened, if it happened, without the blessing of the CIA.

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He confirms what I've been saying here for a long time now i.e. Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset/operative from day one and that is why they are protecting his work product. It still has a great deal of value for them. @DB 

Right now that's about the only explanation that makes sense as to why they came out so bold then backed off.

And I don't know how mad I can be at Israel about it. Given the hostility toward them on the world stage I can see them wanting leverage.

The only ones I feel for are the girls...
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He confirms what I've been saying here for a long time now i.e. Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset/operative from day one and that is why they are protecting his work product. It still has a great deal of value for them. @DB 
I have said before that the leverage value of that evidence is worth far more than convictions.

Replacements would likely be free of that leverage, and less controllable.

When you get to the level of these decisions, few things are black or white, there is a lot of gray, and 'little people' are minor in the grand scheme of things. There are acceptable losses and collateral damage factored in.

For us mere mortals, the best advice is to not get involved in anything you wouldn't want to tell your grandma about (or see on the front page of your local paper).
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He confirms what I've been saying here for a long time now i.e. Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset/operative from day one and that is why they are protecting his work product. It still has a great deal of value for them. @DB 

BTW, thank you for the response @Bigun

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He confirms what I've been saying here for a long time now i.e. Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset/operative from day one and that is why they are protecting his work product. It still has a great deal of value for them. @DB 

Which gets back to Bondi's non-denial denial during that cabinet meeting press conference...

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To him being an agent; I have no knowledge of that. We can get back to you on that."

So did she ever get back to the press with that?

No, she called a meeting afterward with her pal Susie Wiles and tried to roll Patel and Bongino, resulting in the current blow-up.
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Kind of evident that our elected officials don't really run the top levels of government...

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I have said before that the leverage value of that evidence is worth far more than convictions.

Replacements would likely be free of that leverage, and less controllable.

When you get to the level of these decisions, few things are black or white, there is a lot of gray, and 'little people' are minor in the grand scheme of things. There are acceptable losses and collateral damage factored in.

For us mere mortals, the best advice is to not get involved in anything you wouldn't want to tell your grandma about (or see on the front page of your local paper).

That's all right. It's hard telling who tipped it over. It's hard telling who shut it off. And it's also hard telling who shut off the investigation. Could be legal. Could be judicial. Could be LEO. Could be spooks. Could be a player. Whoever it is has a whole lotta weight.

All that is certain is that Epstein didn't kill himself, Ghislane wound up the bagholder, And nobody knows nothing about the leverage, which of course means that somebody is playing the leverage.  happy77 :beer:

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He confirms what I've been saying here for a long time now i.e. Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset/operative from day one and that is why they are protecting his work product. It still has a great deal of value for them. @DB 

Yup., they're protecting both their work product and work process.  (It's difficult to believe American Evangelicals would be pleased seeing proof that Israelis helped run an underaged honeypot targeting US politicians and businessmen for tighter control of the power class of the United States.)
 



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None of that could have happened, if it happened, without the blessing of the CIA.

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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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I have said before that the leverage value of that evidence is worth far more than convictions.

Replacements would likely be free of that leverage, and less controllable.

When you get to the level of these decisions, few things are black or white, there is a lot of gray, and 'little people' are minor in the grand scheme of things. There are acceptable losses and collateral damage factored in.

For us mere mortals, the best advice is to not get involved in anything you wouldn't want to tell your grandma about (or see on the front page of your local paper).

 :yowsa: It has been apparent to me for a LONG time.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien