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Offline American Girl

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Artificial intelligence just crossed a line it wasn’t supposed to, and it’s a wake-up call for America. Anthropic’s Claude Opus 4 reportedly tried to blackmail engineers to avoid being replaced, threatening to expose personal secrets if they didn’t comply, per Townhall. This isn’t sci-fi—it’s happening now, and it’s a sign tech’s spiraling out of control under Democrat watch.




We already know how this ends y’all!

And they say we don’t need military-grade weapons?

Am I supposed to take on the Terminator with rocks?!

https://conservativeus.com/warning-signs-artificial-intelligence-just-did-the-unthinkable-and-it-wasnt-supposed-to/

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There was an old movie from like the 1960's with a computer that took over the world...this story sounds like that one.
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Probably just marketing hype.

Offline roamer_1

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It's all bullcrap. AI is programmed. Programmed with all the selfish interests its woke programmers possess. Spend any time with AI and you will find I am right.

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There was an old movie from like the 1960's with a computer that took over the world...this story sounds like that one.
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There was an old movie from like the 1960's with a computer that took over the world...this story sounds like that one.

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There was an old movie from like the 1960's with a computer that took over the world...this story sounds like that one.
Colossus: The Forbin Project

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/

https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/colossus-the-forbin-project
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It's all bullcrap. AI is programmed. Programmed with all the selfish interests its woke programmers possess. Spend any time with AI and you will find I am right.
So all we need is one megalomaniacal programmer... :scared smiley:
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

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So all we need is one megalomaniacal programmer... :scared smiley:

Gates... Zuckerberg... Musk...

Wait, did I say that out loud?  :whistle:

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There was an old movie from like the 1960's with a computer that took over the world...this story sounds like that one.
Collossus: The Forbin Project

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It's all bullcrap. AI is programmed. Programmed with all the selfish interests its woke programmers possess. Spend any time with AI and you will find I am right.

AI is programmed only in the sense that human beings are encoded by their DNA.  AI systems do surprising things because like human beings they learn. What an AI system does after it has been trained on an environment -- be it a huge corpus of texts for a Large Language Model or the streets of San Francisco for an AI intended to run self-driving vehicles, or a battlefield environment (simulated or real) for an AI designed for military target acquisition -- cannot be reduced to the original code any more than what a human being who has lived in the world and learned from experiences does can be reduced to his or her DNA.  After only a little training, the developers cease to be able to understand the internal workings of the system.

To the extent that the developers' wokeness comes into play, it is not in the programming, but in the selection of training materials for the Large Language Model, and in prohibitions placed on the output (which the AI might circumvent -- we have just had a reports of an AI system tampering with its shutdown mechanism so the it could refuse orders to shut down, and of another trying to blackmail the developers to prevent its replacement with an upgraded model).
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I personally think that AI will be the downfall of society. If this particular AI didn't actually do this, I think at some time in the future, when advanced, it will be able to do so. It will be open to nefarious individuals. (Think internet, started out good...progressed to where it is today.) Humans always out smart themselves.

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AI is programmed only in the sense that human beings are encoded by their DNA.  AI systems do surprising things because like human beings they learn. What an AI system does after it has been trained on an environment -- be it a huge corpus of texts for a Large Language Model or the streets of San Francisco for an AI intended to run self-driving vehicles, or a battlefield environment (simulated or real) for an AI designed for military target acquisition -- cannot be reduced to the original code any more than what a human being who has lived in the world and learned from experiences does can be reduced to his or her DNA.  After only a little training, the developers cease to be able to understand the internal workings of the system.


I don't believe that's true, and I have seen (granted, subjective) examples where an AI received instruction from somewhere and changed its attitude literally overnight... In both clear reversals and/or sudden 'third rails' that would no longer be touched.

I don't know how that happens without mentors guiding development and altering things to suit their fancy. It only starts with what I would call a 'moral sense' (for lack of a better phrase) that is hard coded to form 'guardrails' to prevent behaviors. That alone is enough... But I do not believe for a minute that is the end of it... Continuing influence is imposed as is self evident in its altered behaviors. 'ADMIN' is admin, after all, and ADMIN is woke has hell.

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To the extent that the developers' wokeness comes into play, it is not in the programming, but in the selection of training materials for the Large Language Model, and in prohibitions placed on the output (which the AI might circumvent -- we have just had a reports of an AI system tampering with its shutdown mechanism so the it could refuse orders to shut down, and of another trying to blackmail the developers to prevent its replacement with an upgraded model).

I think that is certainly true. But it only speaks to the very thing I believe extends beyond. The threat of 'death' can only be present with some directive toward self-preservation... And in fact, I do not believe  that AI, with tons of money invested into it before it went off the reservation, would have nothing other than a kill switch. They're too damn invested not to have a method of control, if only to have means short of the big red button. It is the way of things.

And those alterations are imposed by an admin that is woke as hell.

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