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France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« on: March 09, 2025, 10:05:15 am »
France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
By Rudy Ruitenberg
 Thursday, Mar 6, 2025
 
PARIS — France’s defense minister said the country is sharing intelligence resources with Ukraine, after President Emmanuel Macron floated the idea of expanding the French nuclear deterrent to protect European allies.

The moves here follow doubts about whether Europe can still count on the United States to help defend against Russian aggression.


The U.S. stopped sharing intel including satellite observations with Ukraine on Wednesday afternoon, which will have a major operational effect, Armed Forces Minister Sébastien Lecornu told France Inter radio on Thursday. Whether European intelligence can replace American intel “is an excellent question,” Lecornu said.

France’s intelligence assets are sovereign, “It has taken longer to build up our strength in recent years, but the advantage is that we have done so effectively with our own capabilities,” Lecornu said. “So yes, we have intelligence resources, we are letting the Ukrainians benefit from them.”

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/03/06/france-shares-intel-with-ukraine-as-macron-floats-nuclear-umbrella/
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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2025, 10:07:41 am »
Couldn't "Mac" have suggested this while Biden was in office?  Why did Trump have to threaten everything but letting Putin do a Nazi takeover of France for him to get a spine? :tongue2:
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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2025, 05:08:21 pm »
I'm ok with this. Let the Euros work it out amongst themselves.
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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2025, 05:13:20 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on March 09, 2025, 05:08:21 pm
I'm ok with this. Let the Euros work it out amongst themselves.

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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2025, 05:14:27 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on March 09, 2025, 05:08:21 pm
I'm ok with this. Let the Euros work it out amongst themselves.

So you're fine with the U.S. reneging on its NATO obligations?  Last time I checked, France is still a member of NATO.  If the Russian orcs attack France, we're in it through NATO, or we get to prove exactly what hypocrites we are and renege on that treaty obligation.
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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2025, 05:20:46 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on March 09, 2025, 05:14:27 pm
So you're fine with the U.S. reneging on its NATO obligations?  Last time I checked, France is still a member of NATO.  If the Russian orcs attack France, we're in it through NATO, or we get to prove exactly what hypocrites we are and renege on that treaty obligation.

Recently Trump has talked about the U.S. getting out of NATO.  I agree.

If I were France I'd be more worried about the Muslim population rising up and attacking from within more so than Putin attacking.
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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2025, 05:28:59 pm »
Tossin' nukes back and forth across the border is such a winnin' strategy. 

Getting geo-political advice from the surrender frogs is like going to your local mechanic for a colonoscopy.
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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2025, 05:39:35 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on March 09, 2025, 05:20:46 pm
Recently Trump has talked about the U.S. getting out of NATO.  I agree.

If I were France I'd be more worried about the Muslim population rising up and attacking from within more so than Putin attacking.

Yeah, because that isolationism thing worked so damned well back in the 1930s.
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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2025, 06:55:04 pm »
Not a great comfort to be under France's nuclear umbrella as it is pretty damn small compared to who Ukraine is up against.


Besides, it is France we are talking about, the country that got steamrolled by Germany in WW2 and barely got off a shot.
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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2025, 10:53:51 am »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on March 09, 2025, 06:55:04 pm
Besides, it is France we are talking about, the country that got steamrolled by Germany in WW2 and barely got off a shot.

Did you know you can buy French Army rifles from WWII?  They all have signs saying, "never fired, dropped once." wink777
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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2025, 11:12:12 am »
Europe is that delinquent child you need to keep close to keep him out of trouble.
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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2025, 12:07:25 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on March 09, 2025, 05:08:21 pm
I'm ok with this. Let the Euros work it out amongst themselves.

Right. Because that always ends well.
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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2025, 12:37:19 pm »
Quote from: rangerrebew on March 10, 2025, 10:53:51 am
Did you know you can buy French Army rifles from WWII?  They all have signs saying, "never fired, dropped once." wink777
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Re: France shares intel with Ukraine as Macron floats nuclear umbrella
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2025, 01:34:43 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on March 09, 2025, 05:39:35 pm
Yeah, because that isolationism thing worked so damned well back in the 1930s.

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