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Biden authorizes Ukraine to use US long-range missiles to strike inside Russia: report
Vladimir Putin has said such escalations would be an act of war
By Anders Hagstrom Fox News
Published November 17, 2024 1:43pm EST

President Biden approved Ukraine's military to use U.S.-provided long-range missiles on targets inside Russian territory, the New York Times reported Sunday, citing unnamed U.S. officials.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has previously said that such an escalation would constitute an act of war. He has yet to react to Biden's announcement Sunday.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Fox News Digital.

Biden's announcement came just hours after Russia concluded one of its largest missile and drone attacks in months, launching over 200 targeting Ukraine's power and energy infrastructure.

Putin has previously said that giving Ukraine the green light on missile use would effectly mean that the U.S. and NATO are "in the war."

"Flight assignments for these missile systems can, in fact, only be entered by military personnel from NATO countries. Ukrainian servicemen cannot do this. And therefore, it is not a question of allowing the Ukrainian regime to strike Russia with these weapons or not. It is a question of making a decision whether NATO countries directly participate in the military conflict or not," Putin in September.

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We will be in WW111 by the time Trump is sworn in...
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We will be in WW111 by the time Trump is sworn in...

Russia isn't winning as it is. Expanding their war on other countries will only accelerate Putin's demise. Russia can end this anytime they like by getting out of Ukraine.

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We will be in WW111 by the time Trump is sworn in...

Doubtful.

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Putin will respond in some way...he can't just ignore this.
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President Biden approved Ukraine's military to use U.S.-provided long-range missiles on targets inside Russian territory, the New York Times reported Sunday, citing unnamed U.S. officials.

I don't believe this for a second.  More likely, someone at the White House or DoD leaked this to the NY Times while Biden was out of the country.  Biden's current policy is not only to deny Ukraine permission to do this, but to also force the UK, France, Germany, etc. to deny Ukraine this permission with their own missiles.

For months on end, the UK has been expressing their desire to allow Ukraine to strike whatever they want with the Storm Shadow missiles they have been supplying.  The only thing blocking them from doing so has been Joe Biden.  The US still has enough clout to block other NATO nations from doing what they want.  And Biden has used that clout to block all these other European nations from helping Ukraine.

So it is unfathomable to me that Biden would now greenlight US missiles striking deep targets in Russia when he hasn't done so for our European allies.
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Russia isn't winning as it is. Expanding their war on other countries will only accelerate Putin's demise. Russia can end this anytime they like by getting out of Ukraine.

Yep.  It's that simple.
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He probably 'docu-signed' something on line.

Doubtful.  I doubt he even knows he's the President.
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Putin will respond in some way...he can't just ignore this.
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Biden just authorized the use of U.S.-supplied long-range missiles by Ukraine for strikes inside Russia.
In September, Putin said this decision would mean that "all NATO countries are officially at war with Russia."


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OK, I stand corrected.  This really did happen.  Britain and France have now followed suit.



Joe Biden authorises Ukraine to strike Russia deep with US weapons

By Amaury Coutansais-Pervinquière and AFP agence
Published yesterday at 7:40 p.m., updated at 00:29 a.m.


https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/joe-biden-aurait-donne-son-accord-a-l-ukraine-pour-frapper-la-russie-en-profondeur-avec-des-armes-americaines-20241117

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/france-and-britain-greenlight-ukraine-s-use-1731872568.html
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OK, I stand corrected.  This really did happen.  Britain and France have now followed suit.



Joe Biden authorises Ukraine to strike Russia deep with US weapons

By Amaury Coutansais-Pervinquière and AFP agence
Published yesterday at 7:40 p.m., updated at 00:29 a.m.



https://www.lefigaro.fr/international/joe-biden-aurait-donne-son-accord-a-l-ukraine-pour-frapper-la-russie-en-profondeur-avec-des-armes-americaines-20241117

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/france-and-britain-greenlight-ukraine-s-use-1731872568.html

Escalation is NOT what is needed...but wanted.
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Kremlin Warns ‘Inevitable Escalation’ over Biden Allegedly Authorising Ukraine Long-Range Missile Strikes

Oliver JJ Lane 18 Nov 2024

The United States allowing its long-range tactical missiles to strike targets deep inside Russia for the first time would “inevitably lead to a serious escalation”, Kremlin figures warn after Washington D.C. appears to brief one of President Biden’s final acts in office will be to permit such attacks.

Russia warned of dire consequences if Ukraine used long-range U.S.-made ATACMS missiles to strike strategic targets deep inside the Federation, but also confidence it would be able to foil the attacks in the first place. The responses came after claims were published in the beltway-interest newspapers favoured for leaks by the U.S. intelligence community at the weekend that U.S. President Joe Biden would permit Ukraine to use the American Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) missiles to strike targets within Russia.

Until now, the system was permitted for Kyiv to strike Russian targets inside Ukraine, but deeper strikes inside Russia had been prohibited over fears using American weapons to directly attack the Russian Federation would lead to Russia treating the U.S. as a direct combatant in the conflict. Ukraine sees hitting Russia inside Russia as essential as it would theoretically allow them to destroy Russian weapons before they have a chance to join battle.


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Biden escalating the war right before Trump takes office by allowing Ukraine to strike Russia with long-range Missiles is next level foul play; And of course NATO's Secretary General Mark Rutte has expressed his approval.
Told you this man would happily drag us all into WW3.
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Wasn’t so much Biden was happy to drag us into WW3, and more like his paymasters based in Davos were.
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Here's an interesting take on this development:
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Have we actually gotten confirmation directly from Biden that he authorized these missiles?  Because this is smelling an awful lot like a psy-op.

Here's why.

1) They want/need WWIII.  So, throw out as chum that Biden authorized the use of 'long-range' missiles to attack Russia.

1a) Then we find out it's ATACMS, with a 200 mile range, and not Tomahawks.  So, even if true, these aren't missiles that the Russians Air Defense can't deal with easily.

2) Everyone freaks out, rightly.  "Biden's going to start WWIII!"  X is full of people reposting Putin's words from earlier in the year about using nukes in retaliation.

3) The markets are strangely calm, almost as if they know this is bullshit.  But, that's a side note.

4) Look at the narrative.  Biden, as his last spiteful move, especially after he just voted for Trump and secured his family's future, then turns around and does this a week later?  Makes zero sense. 

5) So, this is far more likely to be another pathetic, last gasp of the IC/Britain/Davos to start WWIII before Trump comes into office.

6) If Putin doesn't take the bait the whole thing fails.... just like every other lame attempt, which killed Russians BTW, to get Putin offside.

7) But, now we're hearing calls for using the 25th amendment to get rid of Joe.  NOW!?  Why?!  Really?!

8) You know why... to make the case to the American people that time is short and Joe is crazy!.  We must install Harris to save America (AMERICA!) from the twin Hitlers of Trump and Putin.  We can't have someone "of Donald Trump's temperament running the country now!"

8a) After starting a war, and invoking the 25th, declare martial law, suspending the constitution and stopping Trump from taking power.  They'll have a willing Congress and Senate because Trump is openly hostile to them.  There are a lot of dead bodies, literally, floating to the surface.  They'll have the support of at least 25% of the country to start.

9) Remember, folks, the first rule of malignant narcissists... If I can't have it, no one can!

10) The 25th amendment requires the VP and a plurality of the cabinet to get rid of him.  Joe just betrayed 'the cause'... he's finished.  They now hate him.  Do you think these people aren't desperate or evil enough not to do something like this?

11) Put nothing past these people.  They are counting on Putin being a man of his word after they kill more Russians.
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Here's an interesting take on this development:

Thanks for that.  Makes sense.

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We will be in WW111 by the time Trump is sworn in...
That was my first thought.
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Here's an interesting take on this development:
I have been wondering if they would do something like this to put Kameltoe in the big chair.
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Or this is the last surges before the war is ended. Both sides are trying to gain all they can before the Trump window closes, if Trump really is going to close the window.

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The welfare of the Ukrainian people isn't even an afterthought.  Nowhere in this entire equation are they being considered.  The deep state isn't doing this so that Ukraine can end the war.  They're doing it so that the war can be expanded.  Biden and his cadre have made a lot of money personally from this war.  They want that cash flow to continue, even if it means the complete destruction of Ukraine.
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By authorizing long range missiles to strike inside Russia, Biden is committing  an unconstitutional Act of War that endangers the lives of all U.S. citizens. This is an impeachable offense, but the reality is he’s an emasculated puppet of a deep state.
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By authorizing long range missiles to strike inside Russia, Biden is committing  an unconstitutional Act of War that endangers the lives of all U.S. citizens. This is an impeachable offense, but the reality is he’s an emasculated puppet of a deep state.
9:28 AM · Nov 18, 2024



Uh, no. 

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BREAKING: World leaders at G20 take the group photo without Biden, then walk off



No-show Joe: G20 leaders take group photo without Biden

US president arrived for photograph with other world leaders – but found they had gone ahead without him

Agence France-Presse
Mon 18 Nov 2024 16.35 EST


Joe Biden headed for a photo with fellow G20 leaders in Rio de Janeiro at his final summit as US president on Monday – only to find they had already taken the picture without him.

Frustrated US officials blamed “logistical issues” for the blunder which meant that Biden missed out on the shot, along with the Canadian and Italian prime ministers.

It came during a South American tour during which Biden’s counterparts have been looking past the outgoing US president in political terms – and towards his successor, Donald Trump.

Biden’s swan song on the world stage has seen the 81-year-old try to shore up his legacy before Trump potentially takes a wrecking ball to it  .  .  .

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/18/joe-biden-g20-photo
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By authorizing long range missiles to strike inside Russia, Biden is committing  an unconstitutional Act of War that endangers the lives of all U.S. citizens. This is an impeachable offense, but the reality is he’s an emasculated puppet of a deep state.
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Emasculated puppet of a deep state?  Absolutely.  A massive display of diplomatic idiocy on the world stage?  You betcha.  An unconstitutional act of war?  Not even close.
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2007 version of Joe Biden, who claims to teach constitutional law, clarifies that 2024 President Joe Biden will have committed an impeachable offense by authorizing US supplied and targeted missiles to attack Russia.

https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1859265474095165541
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2007 version of Joe Biden, who claims to teach constitutional law, clarifies that 2024 President Joe Biden will have committed an impeachable offense by authorizing US supplied and targeted missiles to attack Russia.

https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1859265474095165541
That is one way to get him out and kameltoe in
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