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Pelosi Laments Biden’s Late Exit and the Lack of an ‘Open Primary’
« on: November 08, 2024, 04:59:33 pm »
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/08/us/politics/pelosi-harris-biden-open-primary.html

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Representative Nancy Pelosi, the former House speaker, suggested this week that it would have been better for the Democratic Party if President Biden had abandoned his re-election campaign sooner and the party had then held a competitive primary process to replace him.

In an interview on Thursday with The New York Times, Ms. Pelosi said what was widely reported around the time Mr. Biden dropped out: that she believed it was implicitly understood that his exit would be followed by an internal party competition for a new nominee, instead of an anointment of Vice President Kamala Harris.

“Had the president gotten out sooner, there may have been other candidates in the race,” Ms. Pelosi said during an interview with Lulu Garcia-Navarro, a host of “The Interview,” a Times podcast. She added during the interview, which will be published in full on Saturday, “The anticipation was that, if the president were to step aside, that there would be an open primary.”

Ms. Pelosi went on: “And as I say, Kamala may have, I think she would have done well in that and been stronger going forward. But we don’t know that. That didn’t happen. We live with what happened. And because the president endorsed Kamala Harris immediately, that really made it almost impossible to have a primary at that time. If it had been much earlier, it would have been different.”

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Pelosi is realy, REALLY bitter!

Sounds like a vengeful Biden spiked their plan by forcing them to accept Harris with his quick endorsement, despite whoever else they may have had in mind (Newsome or Whitmer?).

And now she's snapping at Sanders...

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She took issue with comments this week from Senator Bernie Sanders, the independent progressive from Vermont, who suggested that Ms. Harris’s defeat had come in part because Democrats were too focused on identity politics at the expense of economic concerns.

“Bernie Sanders has not won,” Ms. Pelosi said. “With all due respect, and I have a great deal of respect for him, for what he stands for, but I don’t respect him saying that the Democratic Party has abandoned the working-class families.”
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Re: Pelosi Laments Biden’s Late Exit and the Lack of an ‘Open Primary’
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2024, 05:07:53 pm »
She's earned the nickname "Nutty Nancy" for a reason.
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Re: Pelosi Laments Biden’s Late Exit and the Lack of an ‘Open Primary’
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2024, 05:12:30 pm »
Of course the DNC has abandoned working families; they’ve been abandoned in favor of sex perverts and illegal aliens.
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Re: Pelosi Laments Biden’s Late Exit and the Lack of an ‘Open Primary’
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2024, 05:33:23 pm »
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Representative Nancy Pelosi, the former House speaker, suggested this week that it would have been better for the Democratic Party if President Biden had abandoned his re-election campaign sooner and the party had then held a competitive primary process to replace him.

In an interview on Thursday with The New York Times, Ms. Pelosi said what was widely reported around the time Mr. Biden dropped out: that she believed it was implicitly understood that his exit would be followed by an internal party competition for a new nominee, instead of an anointment of Vice President Kamala Harris.

Here's what really happened:


Nancy Pelosi backs Kamala Harris as Democratic grandees fall into line

Vice-president clinches support across party as money pours into campaign war chest

James Politi and Lauren Fedor  |  July 22 2024

   Former Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi gave her ringing endorsement to Kamala Harris on Monday, as the vice-president secured donors and delegates to bring her closer to locking up her party’s nomination for the White House.

Pelosi, a longtime Democratic leader who was seen as instrumental in the behind-the-scenes campaign to push Biden to step aside, said she endorsed Harris’s bid “with immense pride and limitless optimism for our country’s future”. She added her support for Harris was “official, personal and political”.

The former speaker became the latest high-profile Democrat to throw her weight behind Harris’s run for the White House, as endorsements and money poured in for the vice-president’s candidacy. Biden endorsed Harris shortly after announcing his own decision to step aside on Sunday.

https://www.ft.com/content/cf5e4ee5-b1db-40cc-b7b2-0772a95ee6f4



Gee, Nancy.  No mention of 'open primary process' back then.  As soon as the money started rolling in, you jumped solidly on board - the delegates be damned.  Looks to me like you are a lying-ass bitch.

I got 99 problems, and Nancy Pelosi ain't one.

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Re: Pelosi Laments Biden’s Late Exit and the Lack of an ‘Open Primary’
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2024, 05:53:33 pm »
There were a few Dems wanting to do a "Primary" nation wide to pick the new Candidate, but Pelosi did not give approval, and they ran out the short clock to have a vote.

Nancy is bitter because she just got hoisted on her own petard, but good.
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Re: Pelosi Laments Biden’s Late Exit and the Lack of an ‘Open Primary’
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2024, 06:23:18 pm »
Pelosi laments? The only thing she laments is an empty martini glass.
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Re: Pelosi Laments Biden’s Late Exit and the Lack of an ‘Open Primary’
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2024, 09:09:11 pm »
I think she went with Harris because she figured she could could control her.
Well, that worked out swimmingly--for Republicans.
Her woke little DC bubble with one of the highest percentages of alphabet people, general perversion, and heavy minority mindset is hardly the place to decide what the political landscape looks like. Confirmation bias makes the woke-dom look nearly normal, only America stopped buying into the "new normal" during COVID.
I reckon there was a lot of smug condescension involved, and not a small quantity of distilled spirits.

Good. Her lack of perspective contributed to their loss. 
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Re: Pelosi Laments Biden’s Late Exit and the Lack of an ‘Open Primary’
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2024, 08:28:57 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 08, 2024, 09:09:11 pm
I think she went with Harris because she figured she could could control her.

I don't think she and Obama wanted Harris at all because they wanted to win, and knew she couldn't do it.  I think that Newsome was her guy.

More here this morning:

Joe Biden's Revenge? Nancy Pelosi Revealed What Really Happened With the Democrat Coup

https://twitchy.com/fuzzychimp/2024/11/08/pelosi-reveals-the-biden-sabotage-n2403525

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Many of us have been theorizing for some time that Joe Biden endorsed Kamala Harris to stick it to the Democrats who made a power play to force him out of the race for the presidency.

While not confirming that scenario exactly, Nancy Pelosi admitted to The New York Times that Biden's endorsement derailed the plans of the coup crew entirely.

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Joe Biden, probably in cahoots with his wife, decided unilaterally to sabotage Democrat control of the White House.

Imagine Obama's face when he first learned what Joe did this time.

(snip)

Joe Biden certainly seemed chipper when he publicly acknowledged his Vice President's defeat.

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Re: Pelosi Laments Biden’s Late Exit and the Lack of an ‘Open Primary’
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2024, 12:36:27 pm »
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It appears @MarkHalperin original reporting was right.  Pelosi's plan was for an open primary, but Biden stuck it to the establishment who threw him out by endorsing Kamala 30 minutes after dropping out.
This is why Obamaworld, Schumer etc were so late to endorse.. they didn't want her.
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Nancy Pelosi to the NYT:  “had the president [Biden] gotten out sooner, there may have been other candidates in the race.” 
“The anticipation was that, if the president were to step aside, that there would be an open primary. “
“And as I say, Kamala may have, I think she would have done well in that and been stronger going forward. But we don’t know that. That didn’t happen. We live with what happened. And because the president endorsed Kamala Harris immediately, that really made it almost impossible to have a primary at that time. If it had been much earlier, it would have been different”
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Re: Pelosi Laments Biden’s Late Exit and the Lack of an ‘Open Primary’
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2024, 12:43:17 pm »
Pelosi was telling everyone how sharp and vigorous Biden was up to the moment he stepped down.

That's on her.
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Re: Pelosi Laments Biden’s Late Exit and the Lack of an ‘Open Primary’
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2024, 12:46:55 pm »
Quote from: DB on November 09, 2024, 12:43:17 pm
Pelosi was telling everyone how sharp and vigorous Biden was up to the moment he stepped down.

That's on her.

Yep.
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Re: Pelosi Laments Biden’s Late Exit and the Lack of an ‘Open Primary’
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2024, 12:47:33 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on November 08, 2024, 06:23:18 pm
Pelosi laments? The only thing she laments is an empty martini glass.

Well played, ma'am.  Well played.
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