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Pentagon issues Federal Directive allowing military to use ‘lethal force’ against Americans as video resurfaces showing Kamala fantasizing about weaponizing DOJ against U.S. citizens

The timing of Federal Directive 5240.01 is interesting in light of the upcoming election and the government's narrative about right wing extremists being the 'biggest threat' to US national security.

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A video clip has resurfaced from May of 2019 in which Kamala Harris advocates weaponizing the DOJ against speech the government doesn’t like, and the platforms that allow it.

In the meantime, one month before a tense presidential election, the U.S. Department of Defense has authorized U.S. military “defense intelligence components” to use “lethal force” against American citizens if requested by state or local law enforcement in an emergency situation. More on this in a minute, but first let’s get to the May 2019 video showing Kamala Harris unleashing her inner dictator.

Speaking at the annual NAACP ‘Fight for Freedom Fund’ dinner in Detroit, Harris threatened: “We will put the Department of Justice of the United States back in the business of justice. We will double the civil rights division, and direct Law Enforcement to counter this extremism.”

She went on to say she would “hold Social Media Platforms accountable for the hate infiltrating their platforms, because they have a responsibility to help fight against this threat to our Democracy. If you don’t police your platforms, we are going to hold you accountable…”

https://leohohmann.substack.com/p/pentagon-issues-federal-directive
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Biden/Harris, in preparation for democrats 3rd cheat fest, approved DOD directive 5240.01 allowing our military to use lethal force against American citizens.
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The Department of Defense (DOD) is facing significant backlash after releasing DOD directive 5240.01, which took effect on September 27. The Biden-Harris administration’s latest DoD directive has been accused of authorizing the U.S. military to use lethal force against American citizens.

The directive gives the Pentagon authority to approve “assistance in responding with assets with potential for lethality, or any situation in which it is reasonably foreseeable that providing the requested assistance may involve the use of force that is likely to result in lethal force, including death or serious bodily injury.”  ...
More at Videos/Pic: Biden-Harris admin approves military use of lethal force on US citizens: Report , American Military News.
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Not fake news. See this post.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,544692.msg3091822.html#msg3091822
Here.. I will save you the horrible labor of googling it and reading the document.
From DoDD 5240.01, September 27, 2024
Found here: https://www.esd.whs.mil/portals/54/documents/dd/issuances/dodd/524001p.pdf
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The decision to approve requests for these types of permissible assistance described
in Paragraph 3.2. to law enforcement agencies and other civil authorities are reserved to the
Secretary of Defense:
(a) Provision of personnel to support response efforts for civil disturbances, which
may also require Presidential authorization.
(b) DoD response to chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, and high-yield
explosive incidents.
(c) Assistance in responding with assets with potential for lethality, or any situation
in which it is reasonably foreseeable that providing the requested assistance may involve the use
of force that is likely to result in lethal force, including death or serious bodily injury. It also
includes all support to civilian law enforcement officials in situations where a confrontation
between civilian law enforcement and civilian individuals or groups is reasonably anticipated.
Attack the messenger all you want, but this is real, off the DOD's own website. The link is up thread.

This sort of authorization is contrary to the Posse Comitatus Act, and has NEVER BEFORE been present in our history. It just happened to be changed within the last month.

Gibbs' rule 39. (There are NO coincidences.)

This is not a "routine" update. At no time in our history has the DOD or our military been authorized to fire upon American Citizens or civilians on American soil. The only thing close was the conduct of troops invading the South and even then, civilians were supposedly off limits.
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Not fake news. See this post.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,544692.msg3091822.html#msg3091822
Here.. I will save you the horrible labor of googling it and reading the document.
From DoDD 5240.01, September 27, 2024
Found here: https://www.esd.whs.mil/portals/54/documents/dd/issuances/dodd/524001p.pdfAttack the messenger all you want, but this is real, off the DOD's own website. The link is up thread.

This sort of authorization is contrary to the Posse Comitatus Act, and has NEVER BEFORE been present in our history. It just happened to be changed within the last month.

Gibbs' rule 39. (There are NO coincidences.)

This is not a "routine" update. At no time in our history has the DOD or our military been authorized to fire upon American Citizens or civilians on American soil. The only thing close was the conduct of troops invading the South and even then, civilians were supposedly off limits.

Listen here @Smokin Joe If google says it's fake then by damn it's fake! Who are you to question their infinite wisdom?

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Hate to be doom and gloom, but I am guessing one way or the other, this election result is going to have a high probability of  serious rioting implications. 

Early this year, I'd have it 50/50.  Now I am estimating it more to be 80/20.
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Listen here @Smokin Joe If google says it's fake then by damn it's fake! Who are you to question their infinite wisdom?

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I only believe when snopes confirms it is fake.  The only true bastion or bulwark of unbiased fact checking.
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I only believe when snopes confirms it is fake.  The only true bastion or bulwark of unbiased fact checking.

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Weird posted above:
"Fake news?
https://www.google.com/search?"


Using google?
How about:
"Fake search" ???

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At no time in our history has the DOD or our military been authorized to fire upon American Citizens or civilians on American soil. The only thing close was the conduct of troops invading the South and even then, civilians were supposedly off limits.

Not entirely accurate. 

War in the Coalfields: The “Ludlow Massacre” and its Impact on the Eight-hour workday

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/war-in-the-coalfields-the-ludlow-massacre-and-its-impact-on-the-eight-hour-workday.htm

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/rockefellers-ludlow/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qIHN68YNXw


How a Deadly Railroad Strike Led to the Labor Day Holiday

https://www.history.com/news/labor-day-pullman-railway-strike-origins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullman_Strike


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps5DSJYwuNo

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Biplanes Over Blair: Calling in the Air Force for the Mine Wars

https://expatalachians.com/biplanes-over-blair-calling-in-the-air-force-for-the-mine-wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcEWndZlAe4


The 1932 Bonus Army: Black and White Americans Unite in March on Washington

https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2020/07/15/the-1932-bonus-army-black-and-white-americans-unite-in-march-on-washington/

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/macarthur-bonus-march-may-july-1932/


https://youtu.be/hB2kbbRpy5g
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November 4, 2024
Licensed to Kill: Not James Bond, But Our Department of Defense
By Al Bienenfeld

On October 18, 2024, Law Enforcement Today had the following headline, which passed by almost unnoticed: “DoD secretly reauthorizes bill that would allow military intervention domestically…and adds ability to use deadly force.”

The reissue of Department of Defense (DoD) Directive 5240.01 was quietly put into effect on September 27, 2024, six weeks before our presidential election. It is a formalized license to kill.

 Why? Because the Democrat party has determined that civil unrest is bad after condoning the 2020 “mostly peaceful” riots that consumed much of our nation in the aftermath of George Floyd’s death. It provides protection for the military to kill under clear cover of authority. Imagine the outcry if this had occurred under Donald Trump. This directive was not necessary.

President Trump argued for the use of National Guard or military assistance during this period of civil unrest as local law enforcement was unable to control the rioting mobs, although he was talked out of using an authority that presidents have used regularly over the last one hundred years ...
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Not entirely accurate. 

War in the Coalfields: The “Ludlow Massacre” and its Impact on the Eight-hour workday

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/war-in-the-coalfields-the-ludlow-massacre-and-its-impact-on-the-eight-hour-workday.htm

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/rockefellers-ludlow/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qIHN68YNXw


How a Deadly Railroad Strike Led to the Labor Day Holiday

https://www.history.com/news/labor-day-pullman-railway-strike-origins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullman_Strike


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps5DSJYwuNo

"If it takes the entire Army and Navy to deliver a postcard in Chicago, that card will be delivered."
- Democrat President Grover Cleveland



Biplanes Over Blair: Calling in the Air Force for the Mine Wars

https://expatalachians.com/biplanes-over-blair-calling-in-the-air-force-for-the-mine-wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcEWndZlAe4


The 1932 Bonus Army: Black and White Americans Unite in March on Washington

https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2020/07/15/the-1932-bonus-army-black-and-white-americans-unite-in-march-on-washington/

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/macarthur-bonus-march-may-july-1932/


https://youtu.be/hB2kbbRpy5g
I stand corrected...sorta.

Those were specific instances, locations, and targeted groups. Bad enough...and imho, of highly questionable legality.
The National Guard has also been called out on numerous occasions over the decades to quell rioting in specific times and places.

But the newly remodeled directive is significantly broader, not specifying event, time frame, geographical location, targeted group(s), nor qualifying reasons. As such, it is a blanket refutation of the Posse Comitatus Act, and not a highly specified exception.
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But the newly remodeled directive is significantly broader, not specifying event, time frame, geographical location, targeted group(s), nor qualifying reasons. As such, it is a blanket refutation of the Posse Comitatus Act, and not a highly specified exception.

Fair enough.  I *think* the idea is to allow the DoD to quickly bypass the law and send troops into DC in the paranoid belief that pissed off Conservatives would march on Washington (again?) and storm the Capitol (again?).  That was the big hang up when Pelosi, quite outside the chain of command, called up Milley and asked him to send some soldiers over to engage, scare off, and/or shoot(?) the January 6 protesters.

But like all such things coming out of DC backrooms, it's a heckuva slippery slope...
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Trump loses, and the steal is 10 times more blatant than it was in 2020, you will not see conservatives riot.  You riot, you end up in prison.  We have over 1,000 political prisoners right now.

But if Trump wins, you will see rioting, killing, rampant destruction by groups of people who will go untouched by the legal system.  They will be heralded as heroes for the cause.
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Trump loses, and the steal is 10 times more blatant than it was in 2020, you will not see conservatives riot.  You riot, you end up in prison.  We have over 1,000 political prisoners right now.

But if Trump wins, you will see rioting, killing, rampant destruction by groups of people who will go untouched by the legal system.  They will be heralded as heroes for the cause.
So typically the Left will actually try to do what it has accused the Right of on Jan 6, 2020--insurrection.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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