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Offline IsailedawayfromFR

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To the surprise of many, the world of electric vehicles (EVs) has shaken up, with India announcing a new invention in automobile technology. Triton Electric Vehicle LLC, a relatively new entrant into the clean energy industry, has said it will unveil a new hydrogen internal combustion engine. This is a major achievement; it will pave the way for a new revolutionary form of environmentally friendly transport.

Introducing the hydrogen revolution: This could change everything
An American company based in Cherry Hill, New Jersey, but with significant R&D and production operations in India, Triton EV has created what it describes as a hydrogen ICE. This new technology takes advantage of hydrogen as a cheap and non-polluting fuel; in contrast to the numerous pollutants that regular gasoline engines release, Triton’s hydrogen engine only produces water vapor, giving it the green light.

Himanshu Patel, Founder and Managing Director of Triton EV, has pointed out that the engine is designed to burn hydrogen most efficiently without any energy waste. This leads to an improvement in thermal efficiency compared to traditional gasoline engines, hence making fuel efficiency and operational costs low.

Triton’s strategic Move: A game changer for heavy vehicles
Hydrogen-powered vehicles are not limited to cars, but Triton has entered this market with heavy vehicles such as trucks. These hybrid hydrogen trucks are produced at their Bhuj, Gujarat facility and come with a hydrogen fuel cell and electric motor. This combined system enables high torque, fine control, and energy effectiveness, making driving more enjoyable.

This strategic move puts Triton as one of the first movers in the heavy vehicle segment with the ability to use hydrogen fuel. Patel shares the company’s joy concerning this accomplishment while stressing the importance of clean technologies in the mobility sector. “The introduction of Hydrogen Fuel-Powered Trucks is one of the great steps in this regard. This product not only depicts our concern for the environment but also acknowledges India’s global leadership in advanced automotive with clean fuel efficiency.

What this means for Tesla and the broader EV market
Perhaps Tesla, the world’s leading EV maker, and the American EV market in general should pay attention to this development. Hydrogen-powered vehicles threaten BEVs by providing a competitor that seems to address some of the main disadvantages of BEVs, namely limited driving range and long charging times. Hydrogen fuel cells can be refueled in a much shorter time than recharging a battery, and they provide long range, which is beneficial for heavy-duty and long-distance operations.

A new era of collaboration: Triton’s open invitation to the industry
While they are already developing and manufacturing hydrogen engines, Triton EV is not content with this alone. They are now looking for other car makers and fleet operators to use this with other car models as well. Such a system could advance the use of hydrogen cars and reduce costs using scale economies. Patel’s vision for the future is clear: “As for the opportunities of using this new innovative Triton EV Hydrogen Engine, the cost of trucks will decrease.”

The company is ready to discuss supplying the hydrogen engine in cooperation with other brands of commercial and non-commercial vehicles. Launching the first hydrogen internal combustion engine vehicle by Triton EV is a significant event for the automobile sector in India. It implies a transition to a more sustainable and environmentally friendly means of transportation that may upset the EV market and the existing leaders, including Tesla.

In the current global reality, where climate change is becoming increasingly acute, and the search for cleaner technologies is becoming increasingly urgent, developments such as Triton’s company’s hydrogen engine can be considered a ray of hope for the future. The competition for clean mobility is heating up, and the world of automobiles is on the precipice of a major shift.
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Hydrogen is a devil to store (it infiltrates metals and weakens them), and has to be produced using some other energy source.  If we ever go on massive nuclear power building push, we'll get to see whether the downsides of lithium-ion batteries as ways of transferring energy from the electrical grid to vehicles outweigh those of hydrogen used for the same purpose.  Until then, it's fossil fuels for transport and as part of the mix for electrical generation.
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Hydrogen is a devil to store (it infiltrates metals and weakens them), and has to be produced using some other energy source.  If we ever go on massive nuclear power building push, we'll get to see whether the downsides of lithium-ion batteries as ways of transferring energy from the electrical grid to vehicles outweigh those of hydrogen used for the same purpose.  Until then, it's fossil fuels for transport and as part of the mix for electrical generation.
High pressure Hydrogen can autoignite in the event of a leak, and the flame is colorless (the only way to see it is by the air distortion from the heat).

Will this mean the taxpayers end up subsidizing yet another infrastructure as a sacrifice for the urf god? (Too much of that already!)

And still, the problem is the exhaust. All H2O vapor.
What muffler will not ice over at -30F?
I have had to deal with ICE vehicles left idling on an incline where the mufflers iced shut, at which point the engine would not run. With hydrogen, that could be even worse (no CO, CO2, etc., in the exhaust to help push water vapor out, just water vapor).
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High pressure Hydrogen can autoignite in the event of a leak, and the flame is colorless (the only way to see it is by the air distortion from the heat).

Will this mean the taxpayers end up subsidizing yet another infrastructure as a sacrifice for the urf god? (Too much of that already!)

And still, the problem is the exhaust. All H2O vapor.
What muffler will not ice over at -30F?
I have had to deal with ICE vehicles left idling on an incline where the mufflers iced shut, at which point the engine would not run. With hydrogen, that could be even worse (no CO, CO2, etc., in the exhaust to help push water vapor out, just water vapor).

Have you ever tried to use butane or propane in a sub-zero environment? Hydrogen.... I wonder.  :pondering:

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Hydrogen is a devil to store (it infiltrates metals and weakens them), and has to be produced using some other energy source.  If we ever go on massive nuclear power building push, we'll get to see whether the downsides of lithium-ion batteries as ways of transferring energy from the electrical grid to vehicles outweigh those of hydrogen used for the same purpose.  Until then, it's fossil fuels for transport and as part of the mix for electrical generation.

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It takes a crap load of energy to isolate pure hyrdogen from sources.  I doubt it is net zero carbon. ... show us the math.

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Hydrogen, it will be different this time.

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Have you ever tried to use butane or propane in a sub-zero environment? Hydrogen.... I wonder.  :pondering:
Yeah, We kept a small tank of propane inside by the door with a 'big bertha' torch on it, to go out and heat the 250 gal propane tank behind the lab so it would produce enough gas to run the furnace. That was through some -50 and colder weather, and had a similar problem in Riverton, Wy a few years later when the NWS said the temp was -54. I had a new hand working with me, and told him to make sure the valves on the propane tanks were closed all the way before he unhooked them so we could take them into town and get them filled. Both tanks sloshed a bit, and I thought nothing of it until we got into town to fill them and I realized the valves were completely open, not completely shut. He learned 'righty tighty' that day, but there were probably 2-3 gallons in those tanks that was not evolving into gas, even with the valves completely open to atmosphere.  Incidentally, checking back through the weather records, those official low temperatures, announced on the radio at the time, have disappeared, replaced by numbers in the 40s below zero.  That is just one way I know the temperature data sets have been buggered up to push global warming.

Hydrogen's boiling point is much lower, -423F instead of -44F like propane. As a rule it is transported as a compressed gas, at least was when we used it for flame ionization detectors and chromatographs. That pressure difference makes leaks a possible fire problem because it will autoignite and the flame is clear.
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C S Lewis