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McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« on: September 14, 2022, 05:19:39 pm »
McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) on Tuesday said most Republican senators would like to leave the issue of abortion up to the states after Senator Lindsey Graham (R., S.C.) proposed a nationwide ban on abortions after 15 weeks.

McConnell said the measure is not being touted by leadership.

“With regard to his bill, you’ll have to ask him about it. In terms of scheduling, I think most of the members of my conference prefer that this be dealt with at the state level,” he told reporters. 

He said he would leave it to Republican senators running for reelection to determine their own responses on the issue.

“I think every Republican senator running this year in these contested races has an answer as to how they feel about the issue and it may be different in different states. So I leave it up to our candidates who are quite capable of handling this issue to determine for them what their response is,” he said. 

Earlier on Tuesday, Graham unveiled his proposal and acknowledged that he did not discuss the measure with McConnell ahead of time, according to The Hill.

“I think we should have a law at the federal level that would say, after 15 weeks, no abortion on demand except in cases of rape, incest or to save the life of the mother,” Graham said while unveiling the legislation. “And that should be where America is at.”

Under the proposal, doctors who violate the ban could be subject to sentences of up to five years in prison..............

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/mcconnell-not-supportive-of-grahams-abortion-ban-proposal/
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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2022, 05:31:10 pm »
I thought abortion was a states' rights issue?

There's no enumerated Constitutional Federal right to an abortion, nor is there an enumerated Constitutional Federal power to regulate abortion.

If the Federal Government can ban abortion, does it not also have the power to protect access to abortion?

Lindsey Graham is crapping in the nest of pro-life, states' rights advocates against abortion.  What a dink.  Is he intentionally sabotaging the GOP's attempt to retake the US Senate?
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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2022, 05:36:51 pm »
One of the greatest talents is the ability to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The GOP doesn't want to be in the majority. If they are in the minority they can have all the advantages of being a member of congress without any responsibility. They can blame everything on the Democrat Communist Party while helping them along.

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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2022, 05:44:25 pm »
I thought abortion was a states' rights issue?

There's no enumerated Constitutional Federal right to an abortion, nor is there an enumerated Constitutional Federal power to regulate abortion.

If the Federal Government can ban abortion, does it not also have the power to protect access to abortion?

Lindsey Graham is crapping in the nest of pro-life, states' rights advocates against abortion.  What a dink.  Is he intentionally sabotaging the GOP's attempt to retake the US Senate?

I don't like Graham, but him advocating 15 weeks surprised me. Even giving him the benefit of the doubt, he should be fully aware that abortion is left up to the States.  Wasn't that just defined by SCOTUS??
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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2022, 05:51:27 pm »
How would Graham propose to enforce this ban?  Will it be through more-or-less overreach under the Commerce Clause (e.g., no person may, while engaged in interstate commerce, or while using the instrumentalities of interstate commerce, perform an abortion if the fetus is more than 15 weeks old)?

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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2022, 05:52:45 pm »
I don't like Graham, but him advocating 15 weeks surprised me. Even giving him the benefit of the doubt, he should be fully aware that abortion is left up to the States.  Wasn't that just defined by SCOTUS??
He and Rubio are introducing those bills to fire up the base.  The democrat base.

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2022, 05:53:11 pm »
He and Rubio are introducing those bills to fire up the base.  The democrat base.

That is exactly what those bills will do.

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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2022, 06:07:49 pm »
I don't like Graham, but him advocating 15 weeks surprised me. Even giving him the benefit of the doubt, he should be fully aware that abortion is left up to the States.  Wasn't that just defined by SCOTUS??
It's all posturing by a spineless simp, it's very safe for him to make the proposal because he knows it hasn't a snowflakes chance in hell of passing but thinks/hopes it will score him political points.

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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2022, 06:30:36 pm »
He and Rubio are introducing those bills to fire up the base.  The democrat base.

I look for Rubio to lose his seat. Maybe the GOP establishment will take note.  Rubio was once seen as the GOP's golden child.  He flopped and his flops I believe are going to cost him his seat.
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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2022, 06:53:59 pm »
He and Rubio are introducing those bills to fire up the base.  The democrat base.

You're damn right...he could have waited until after the election..now the Dems have this to hammer the Repubs with...
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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2022, 07:08:01 pm »
I look for Rubio to lose his seat. Maybe the GOP establishment will take note.  Rubio was once seen as the GOP's golden child.  He flopped and his flops I believe are going to cost him his seat.
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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2022, 07:21:44 pm »
It's all posturing by a spineless simp, it's very safe for him to make the proposal because he knows it hasn't a snowflakes chance in hell of passing but thinks/hopes it will score him political points.

Also, it's a classic example of how Pubs snatch defeat from victory. The Rats are all fired up about a national pro abortion bill in part because they know they are going to lose badly in most States over time. The idea of 15 weeks being okay is going to shrink to 6 weeks when people are educated about what's happening to the developing human being in the womb. The idea of 6 weeks will eventually disappear as well as the pro-life presses on the issue of when does life begin. IOW, why settle for 15 weeks. We will win!
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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2022, 07:22:33 pm »
I thought abortion was a states' rights issue?

There's no enumerated Constitutional Federal right to an abortion, nor is there an enumerated Constitutional Federal power to regulate abortion.

If the Federal Government can ban abortion, does it not also have the power to protect access to abortion?

Lindsey Graham is crapping in the nest of pro-life, states' rights advocates against abortion.  What a dink.  Is he intentionally sabotaging the GOP's attempt to retake the US Senate?

You're right. Of course, hopping state lines kinda makes any ban meaningless.

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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2022, 08:02:07 pm »
Part 1. Spend tons of $$$ in GOP primaries to have the most right-wing candidate win.
Part 2. Have some useful GOP idiot say something that energizes women against those GOP candidates.

Where's there's a swamp, there is pond scum,

In this case, that would be Graham.
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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2022, 08:04:23 pm »
Part 1. Spend tons of $$$ in GOP primaries to have the most right-wing candidate win.
Part 2. Have some useful GOP idiot say something that energizes women against those GOP candidates.

Where's there's a swamp, there is pond scum,

In this case, that would be Graham.

Couldn't agree more...I have been so pissed ever since he announced this yesterday...
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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2022, 08:09:58 pm »
Part 1. Spend tons of $$$ in GOP primaries to have the most right-wing candidate win.
Part 2. Have some useful GOP idiot say something that energizes women against those GOP candidates.

Where's there's a swamp, there is pond scum,

In this case, that would be Graham.

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Re: McConnell Not Supportive of Graham’s Abortion Ban Proposal
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2022, 09:17:36 pm »
 House GOP leaders hedge on 15-week abortion ban
by Emily Brooks   09/14/22 12:36 PM ET

House Republicans will not commit to bringing up a 15-week abortion ban legislation if the party wins control of the House next year.

“First we’d need to see what our majority looks like,” House Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) said in a news conference on Wednesday when asked if Republicans would put a 15-week abortion ban bill on the floor, adding: “We are a party that defends life. We stand up for life.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) elicited swift attacks from Democrats and icy reactions from fellow Republicans after he introduced a 15-week abortion ban bill in the Senate, as abortion has appeared to energize Democratic voters ahead of the midterm elections.

A version of Graham’s 15-week abortion ban bill was also introduced in the House on Tuesday with more than 80 co-sponsors, led by House pro-life caucus leaders Reps. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), Michelle Fischbach (R-Minn.), Andy Harris (R-Md.) and Kat Cammack (R-Fla.).

Scalise tried to turn the issue of defending life back to Democrats.

“T​​hey don’t want to talk about the fact that their party has gotten so extreme that they went from a party that used to say that they wanted abortions to be rare. Today, they want to mandate abortion all the way up until the birth of the child and have taxpayer funding pay for it,” Scalise said. “That’s not where America is.”

“We defend life, not just inside the womb, which we’re proud to do. But we also defend life in communities, where you’re seeing crime overtake so many cities,” Scalise said. “Democrats want to let the criminals back out.”

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