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Biden Claims Bullet Out of AR-15 Is 5X Faster than Bullet Out of Any Other Gun

AWR Hawkins 30 Aug 2022

While speaking in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, on Tuesday President Biden said, “The bullet out of an AR-15 travels five times as rapidly as a bullet shot out of any other gun.”

Ironically, on June 30, 2022, Field & Stream did an in-depth look at the “Five Fastest Rifle Cartridges” and the two AR-15 rounds, .223 and 5.56, did not even make the cut.

Here are the top rounds, as listed by Field & Stream, and the feet per second (fps) they travel upon being fired:

    .220 Swift — A 40-Grain .220 Swift round moves approx. 4,300 fps.
    .257 Weatherby Magnum — An 87-Grain .257 Weatherby Magnum round moves approx. 3,700+ fps.
    .30/378 Weatherby — An 165-Grain .30/378 Weatherby round moves approx. 3,400+ fps.
    .224 Clark — An 80-Grain .224 Clark round moves approx. 3,500+ fps.
    .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer — A 50-Grain .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer round moves approx. 4,600 fps.

By contrast the two AR-15 rounds move at approx. 2,700 – 3,100 fps.

Biden also claimed “the AR-15 just rips the body apart.”

In actuality, the damage done by any round from any gun depends on the type of ammunition used. And with the popular .223 and 5.56 rounds, the result is most often not expansive damage but overpenetration. The small bullet — a .22 caliber — goes right through.

Biden made another statement about a specific gun earlier this year when, on May 30, 2022, he suggested a 9mm bullet will blow the lung “out of the body.”

We spoke to a U.S. Marshal fugitive recovery taskforce member when Biden made the 9mm claim and he laughed out loud and said, “That’s not even in the realm of possibility.”

We asked, “Do you use a 9mm round?”

He said, “Yes, and it is a hollowpoint, but that simply creates a better wound channel, it does not blow lungs or other organs out.”

We told the fugitive recovery taskforce member that Biden also categorized 9mm under “high caliber weapons,” and he laughed again and said, “9mm is the smallest round we use.”

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Biden Claims Bullet Out of AR-15 Is 5X Faster than Bullet Out of Any Other Gun

AWR Hawkins 30 Aug 2022

While speaking in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, on Tuesday President Biden said, “The bullet out of an AR-15 travels five times as rapidly as a bullet shot out of any other gun.”

Ironically, on June 30, 2022, Field & Stream did an in-depth look at the “Five Fastest Rifle Cartridges” and the two AR-15 rounds, .223 and 5.56, did not even make the cut.

Here are the top rounds, as listed by Field & Stream, and the feet per second (fps) they travel upon being fired:

    .220 Swift — A 40-Grain .220 Swift round moves approx. 4,300 fps.
    .257 Weatherby Magnum — An 87-Grain .257 Weatherby Magnum round moves approx. 3,700+ fps.
    .30/378 Weatherby — An 165-Grain .30/378 Weatherby round moves approx. 3,400+ fps.
    .224 Clark — An 80-Grain .224 Clark round moves approx. 3,500+ fps.
    .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer — A 50-Grain .22 Eargesplitten Loudenboomer round moves approx. 4,600 fps.



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Don't let those FPS figures impress you to much. The CHMMIC of that list is the 30/378 Weatherby — An 165-Grain .30/378 Weatherby round moves approx. 3,400+ fps.

The combination of bullet weight,design,plus velocity is what seals the deal.

And,of course,the real "King of the Hill" is one of those military contract Barrett sniper rifles that shoot the 50 caliber BMG round. The man that shoots you with that can shoot you from so far away he damn near has the time to clean his weapon before the bullet hits you.
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@mystery-ak

Don't let those FPS figures impress you to much. The CHMMIC of that list is the 30/378 Weatherby — An 165-Grain .30/378 Weatherby round moves approx. 3,400+ fps.

The combination of bullet weight,design,plus velocity is what seals the deal.

And,of course,the real "King of the Hill" is one of those military contract Barrett sniper rifles that shoot the 50 caliber BMG round. The man that shoots you with that can shoot you from so far away he damn near has the time to clean his weapon before the bullet hits you.
Also the bullet gets there before you hear the shot.

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Also the bullet gets there before you hear the shot.

@Killer Clouds

You are in a HEAP of trouble if someone is pointing a 50 cal sniper rifle in your direction. NOBODY gets to handle those things unless they have proven themselves to be pretty much unshakable,and ace shots.

IIRC,the longest kill on record from a 50 cal sniper rifle is in the neighborhood of 2 miles.

Think about THAT one for a moment.

Of course,the shot was made in Shitstainistan,and there were no trees or other objects in the way.

Even so,there were shifting winds in those mountains,and they are totally unpredictable. And "Yes,wind CAN cause a bullet in flight to drift off-target. Even a 50 Cal BMG bullet.

BTW,that takes NOTHING away from that remarkable shooter or his weapon. NOBODY can hit what they can't see.
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And,of course,the real "King of the Hill" is one of those military contract Barrett sniper rifles that shoot the 50 caliber BMG round. The man that shoots you with that can shoot you from so far away he damn near has the time to clean his weapon before the bullet hits you.

I love that crap @sneakypete ... Anything over 500-600 yards is where the fun starts being fun. Wish I had the fun tickets for better optics... which requires a bigger boomstick... which requires better optics.. which requires a bigger boomstick... Yeah... I could easy go down that road.  :laugh:

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3,540 Meters: The Record-Breaking Longest Confirmed Sniper Kill

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/3540-meters-record-breaking-longest-confirmed-sniper-kill-178421

In 2017, a sniper from Joint Task Force 2 (JTF-2) neutralized an ISIS target in Iraq at a distance of over 3,540 meters(2.19 miles). The reported kill shot was corroborated through video footage and subsequently confirmed by Canada’s Armed Forces (CAF): “The Canadian Special Operations Command can confirm that a member of Joint Task Force 2 successfully hit a target at 3,540 metres,” read a CAF statement. “For operational security reasons and to preserve the safety of our personnel and our Coalition partners we will not discuss precise details on when and how this incident took place.”

It needs to be stressed just how difficult it is to land a shot under these circumstances. All sharpshooters must account for numerous intervening variables, including but not limited to gravity, wind speed and direction, atmospheric pressure, altitude and more—the weight of these factors can often become significantly more pronounced at greater distances. The distance at play made it particularly difficult to account for bullet drop, or the phenomenon of a fired projectile being dragged down by gravity over the course of its trajectory. Even the slightest under or over-correction through the scope could have resulted in a missed shot.

Windage poses another key difficulty: at a distance of over two miles, the snipers would have had to adjust for a distance of over 360 inches. Then there is the Coriolis Effect, which requires snipers to account for hemispheric drift. Any one of these factors requires careful attention—all of them combined make for an immensely difficult shot, which explains why updated records in this category have proven relatively rare in recent decades. Despite their powerful and highly specialized equipment, a sniper’s real professional bread and butter are the series of complex calculations that go into each shot.

Landing a shot at this distance requires not only intimate knowledge of how your weapon handles, but a rifle capable of reliably performing at that level. This latest record was, unsurprisingly, set with the McMillan Firearms Tac-50, which was used in three of the five most recent longest recorded kill shots—in all three cases, the Tac-50 was wielded by Canadian snipers. The Tac-50 revolutionized the global small arms scene following its introduction in 2000, successfully blending the reach and stopping power of an anti-materiel rifle (AMR) with the accuracy of a standard military-grade sniper rifle. The Tac-50’s .50 caliber round can hypothetically travel as far as five miles under ideal circumstances, though landing a shot at that range would prove extraordinarily difficult in real operating conditions.

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You are in a HEAP of trouble if someone is pointing a 50 cal sniper rifle in your direction. NOBODY gets to handle those things unless they have proven themselves to be pretty much unshakable,and ace shots.

IIRC,the longest kill on record from a 50 cal sniper rifle is in the neighborhood of 2 miles.

Think about THAT one for a moment.

Of course,the shot was made in Shitstainistan,and there were no trees or other objects in the way.

Even so,there were shifting winds in those mountains,and they are totally unpredictable. And "Yes,wind CAN cause a bullet in flight to drift off-target. Even a 50 Cal BMG bullet.

BTW,that takes NOTHING away from that remarkable shooter or his weapon. NOBODY can hit what they can't see.
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There is a video of that shot on YouTube somewhere. That really is an amazing shot. The shooter has to be a great shot and know what he is doing but the spotter must be equally talented. You know they always work as a team. Also the ammo they use is hand loaded and not the same garbage they use in machine guns. Long distance shooting is a different kind of shooting.  I have fired a Barrett 50 cal bolt action rifle. At 1 time I was wanting to get the same rifle in 510 DTC since I love in Kalifornia. Any 50 BMG is banned in Kalifornia but people still have them precancerous. 510 DTC is not banned and is basically the same round. It gets expensive fast shooting those ot $5 plus a round. I have also been able to shoot a 338 Lapua magnum at a 1 mile target. I love long distance shooting but I haven't been able to shoot for awhile. I'll see if I can find the YouTube video.

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Years ago, (30 or more) I participated in a few 1,000 yd. events and enjoyed that quite a bit but now days 1000 yds is just warm up distance and you have to be very wealthy, or good enough to have a sponsor with deep pockets, in order to compete in such events.  Around here finding a place to shoot at any true long distance is a problem as well.
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@mystery-ak

Don't let those FPS figures impress you to much. The CHMMIC of that list is the 30/378 Weatherby — An 165-Grain .30/378 Weatherby round moves approx. 3,400+ fps.

The combination of bullet weight,design,plus velocity is what seals the deal.

And,of course,the real "King of the Hill" is one of those military contract Barrett sniper rifles that shoot the 50 caliber BMG round. The man that shoots you with that can shoot you from so far away he damn near has the time to clean his weapon before the bullet hits you.
Brandon spouting BS trying to scare people about AR-15 and how fast the bullet travels, beyond the lie he made I say so what? The actual real life 5.56, not the one in Brandon's imagination land, travels about 1800 FPS while a 45 ACP travels about 900 FPS give or take. The point is fast or slow if the bullet hits you in the right place you end up just as dead whether it's fast or slow...period. Hammers are designed to drive nails, when someone uses one to kill another we don't rename it an assault hammer and try to ban it. Just because someone miss uses a tool is no reason to make that tool illegal for others who use it properly.

I know you and everyone else here knows that but once I start I have to get it out.

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A 5.56 round from an AR15 is significantly faster than a 9mm pistol, and that can put your lung out.   *****rollingeyes*****
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A 5.56 round from an AR15 is significantly faster than a 9mm pistol, and that can put your lung out.   *****rollingeyes*****

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And a 22 rimfire "short" though an eye socket or an ear can kill you as dead as quickly as a freight train running over you.
It flat doesn't make a damn bit of difference what you are shooting if you can't hit what you are shooting at.

Like all other sports,the sport of shooting has damn few true "stars",a lot of "competent shooters",and a few that couldn't hit a car if they were locked inside it.

To perform at the level of the US Military 50 cal snipers,you not only have to be a natural-born excellent shot,you have to keep your ego in check to the point  you understand there will always be something to learn,even on the shots you nail.

Make no mistake about it,those guys KNOW they are the cream of the crop,and that there can't be any question about this.

They also know there is always some minute new shooting issue they have yet to learn,and that there will ALWAYS be something new to learn as their career progress.

It is truly a curious mix of confidence and modesty that makes up the top shooters of today.

Just like practically anybody can drive,not just anybody can drive a sprint car in a race without killing themselves,or at least wetting their pants.

The same applies to guns and sniping. Every day is a new contest with new things to learn and adapt to.

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Years ago, (30 or more) I participated in a few 1,000 yd. events and enjoyed that quite a bit but now days 1000 yds is just warm up distance and you have to be very wealthy, or good enough to have a sponsor with deep pockets, in order to compete in such events.  Around here finding a place to shoot at any true long distance is a problem as well.
It's getting tougher here, as well. Any more, 500 yards is about as far as you can reach out.
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