'Nobody's head has rolled' for deadly Afghanistan withdrawal

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'Nobody's head has rolled' for deadly Afghanistan withdrawal
By Mike Brest, Defense Reporter
August 31, 2022 07:00 AM

No military general, Department of Defense official, or presidential adviser has been fired following last year's chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, the first anniversary of which just passed.

The withdrawal concluded the country's longest war. It was punctuated with the last service members leaving an Afghanistan controlled by the Taliban, just like when they arrived in the weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attack, and the largest emergency evacuation operation the military has ever conducted, though tens of thousands were left behind.

"Nobody's head has rolled for this yet," the father of the late Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Jared M. Schmitz told the Washington Examiner in an interview.

Mark Schmitz — whose son was among the 13 U.S. service members who were killed on Aug. 26, 2021, at the gates of Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul, Afghanistan , when a suicide bomber killed nearly 200 people — remains angry at leaders in Washington, D.C., whom he blames for his son's death.

"The administration, as a whole, has been another embarrassment that only adds to the pain that we already have from just losing our kids because of incompetence. This should have never happened, as people have mentioned," he said. "As I am seeing in a lot of other things that are going on in this administration right now, it seems to be a common theme. No accountability and they're above the law."

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[catfish1957]

There's been ZERO accountibility for any of the Biden disasters.

Which just gives more crediblity to the theory that Biden and his lackeys are intentionally destroying the country.

[Bigun]

There's been ZERO accountibility for any of the Biden disasters.

Which just gives more crediblity to the theory that Biden and his lackeys are intentionally destroying the country.

Name me ONE government official who has been properly held accountable for ANYTHING since before Hillary Clinton was caught with 900+ Raw FBI files in the WH basement! @catfish1957

[catfish1957]

Name me ONE government official who has been properly held accountable for ANYTHING since before Hillary Clinton was caught with 900+ Raw FBI files in the WH basement! @catfish1957

Zero.  When I saw Trey Gowdy rolled on this , I knew something very sinister, deep, and malignant was afoot. 

That is why we need a full bushhogging of DC, and start over.

[Fishrrman]

I'm gonna go against the grain here (even though I'm as strong a supporter of Mr. Trump as is anyone else in this forum).

The American withdrawal from Afghanistan wouldn't have gone all that much better had Mr. Trump been president. I will say that we might have been able to hold the air base and remove a good deal of our weapons and aircraft from there, and the reams of cash that was left behind. And we probably would have left many or most of the Afghan "refugees" behind, as well (which is where THEY SHOULD HAVE been "left").

Nevertheless, as "the end" drew near, the situation would have degenerated into chaos anyway, as the taliban moved in and consolidated power. See Saigon, 1975.

We're seeing a similar scenario unfold in Iraq now.
Best to get out of there, and let the muzzie animals sort it out by themselves...

[Bigun]

I'm gonna go against the grain here (even though I'm as strong a supporter of Mr. Trump as is anyone else in this forum).

The American withdrawal from Afghanistan wouldn't have gone all that much better had Mr. Trump been president. I will say that we might have been able to hold the air base and remove a good deal of our weapons and aircraft from there, and the reams of cash that was left behind. And we probably would have left many or most of the Afghan "refugees" behind, as well (which is where THEY SHOULD HAVE been "left").

Nevertheless, as "the end" drew near, the situation would have degenerated into chaos anyway, as the taliban moved in and consolidated power. See Saigon, 1975.

We're seeing a similar scenario unfold in Iraq now.
Best to get out of there, and let the muzzie animals sort it out by themselves...

If you truly believe that hogwash @Fishrrman you need professional help.

[Smokin Joe]

I'm gonna go against the grain here (even though I'm as strong a supporter of Mr. Trump as is anyone else in this forum).

The American withdrawal from Afghanistan wouldn't have gone all that much better had Mr. Trump been president. I will say that we might have been able to hold the air base and remove a good deal of our weapons and aircraft from there, and the reams of cash that was left behind. And we probably would have left many or most of the Afghan "refugees" behind, as well (which is where THEY SHOULD HAVE been "left").

Nevertheless, as "the end" drew near, the situation would have degenerated into chaos anyway, as the taliban moved in and consolidated power. See Saigon, 1975.

We're seeing a similar scenario unfold in Iraq now.
Best to get out of there, and let the muzzie animals sort it out by themselves...

I disagree. It is a matter of timing. Trump wanted out in the Spring, while the mountain passes were still difficult, which would have kept the Taliban from massing. And from Bagram, a far more defensible position, not a civilian airport. That  alone would have made a difference.

[Smokin Joe]

Lots of heads have rolled. Literally.

The Taliban has seen to that.

[roamer_1]

I disagree. It is a matter of timing. Trump wanted out in the Spring, while the mountain passes were still difficult, which would have kept the Taliban from massing. And from Bagram, a far more defensible position, not a civilian airport. That  alone would have made a difference.

That's probably right.

[jmyrlefuller]

Nobody has been held accountable for why the Taliban still exists after 20 years of occupation and nation building.

If there's that much support there, it almost justifies going nuclear.

[roamer_1]

Nobody has been held accountable for why the Taliban still exists after 20 years of occupation and nation building.

If there's that much support there, it almost justifies going nuclear.

You'll never dig them out of those mountains any more than you could dig me out of mine.

And nation building never works well... Which is why Conservatives tend to disabuse themselves of the notion.

[Smokin Joe]

You'll never dig them out of those mountains any more than you could dig me out of mine.

And nation building never works well... Which is why Conservatives tend to disabuse themselves of the notion.

Yeah. The only country I see us giving a true sense of national identity is Canada...they're not the States. (individual similarities exist out west, and outlaws is outlaws, but overall).

[roamer_1]

Yeah. The only country I see us giving a true sense of national identity is Canada...they're not the States. (individual similarities exist out west, and outlaws is outlaws, but overall).

There ain't so much difference out west. Albertans and inland BC Canucks all the way up to the territories are all quite a bit like right here... I see less Saskatchewans over here because of the hump, but I reckon that they ain't any different from Plainsmen in the States.

But after that you start running into Frenchies. Not the same anymore.

I get along pretty good with Aussies and Zeelanders generally too - Something to do with broadly western civ culture and knowing wide open spaces. I have punched cows with Aussies up in here, and they fit better than the odd Vaquero I have run into.

[sneakypete]

I get along pretty good with Aussies and Zeelanders generally too - Something to do with broadly western civ culture and knowing wide open spaces. I have punched cows with Aussies up in here, and they fit better than the odd Vaquero I have run into.

@roamer_1

I think this is true of pretty much everybody. It's hard to NOT like people so joyous of nature and life in general,that almost always seem to be smiling or laughing.

VERY open and friendly people.

[Smokin Joe]

There ain't so much difference out west. Albertans and inland BC Canucks all the way up to the territories are all quite a bit like right here... I see less Saskatchewans over here because of the hump, but I reckon that they ain't any different from Plainsmen in the States.

But after that you start running into Frenchies. Not the same anymore.

I get along pretty good with Aussies and Zeelanders generally too - Something to do with broadly western civ culture and knowing wide open spaces. I have punched cows with Aussies up in here, and they fit better than the odd Vaquero I have run into.

Yeah, the Saskatchewan and Manitoba folks generally are similar to their counterparts across the border, but our cultures are formed by the land we farm, ranch, and produce resources from as much as the immigrant stock and traditions of a century ago. It is when you get into Ontario, Quebec and the maritimes that things change, but then, look at what's across the border from them. (MI, NY, New England...)

Maybe there's something in the water over there.