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I agree.  DIVERSITY IS OUR DOWNFALL. 

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I disagree. Diversity ADDS to our national character.

Where we failed is when we refused to discriminate on WHO we let it,based on their skills and what they would add to America. When you let in people with zero job skills or the ability,or even the desire,to work,expect nothing but trouble.

Some people are just parasites,and others are positive additions.

Race and/or country of origin has nothing to do with it.

First and foremost,they MUST want to become AMERICANS and come here willing to work hard and succeed,like previous generations of immigrants.

I don't know about you,but I have met a BUNCH of people whose parents or grandparents came here from other countries who flat REFUSED to allow their children to speak anything but English to each other in the house.  Some of these elders never really learned English themselves,so they allowed the children to speak their native tongue to them,but ONLY to them.

They did this not because they were ashamed of their native culture or country,but because they wanted their children to BE Americans,not just foreigners living here.

I even had one Hispanic friend I worked with in Denver that didn't speak a word of Spanish,and went to language school when in her early 30's to learn it. Her parents were from Mexico,but flat refused to allow their children to speak Spanish in their house.

THOSE are the kind of immigrants *I* want coming here,and I flat don't give a damn where they came from or what they look like.

Hell,I could probably be talked into helping round up an equal number of Americans that were born here to send back to where the new immigrants came from in order to balance things out.
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@LegalAmerican

I disagree. Diversity ADDS to our national character.



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Sorry Pete... The diversity the socialists are talking about is diversity of culture, not diversity of thought.  Diversity of culture will destroy us.
Wanna come here, fine, but adopt our culture, otherwise they are turning us into the shithole they ran away from.

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Sorry Pete... The diversity the socialists are talking about is diversity of culture, not diversity of thought.  Diversity of culture will destroy us.
Wanna come here, fine, but adopt our culture, otherwise they are turning us into the shithole they ran away from.

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Uhhh,isn't that an edited version of what I posted?
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We are a better nation for our diversity - like a mutt when compared with a purebreed.

The problem with diversity and inclusion dogma is that it is established, rich, white, legacy admission Ivy Leaguers pitting the rest of us against each other to fight for their table scraps.

It's more of a class thing.
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Sorry Pete... The diversity the socialists are talking about is diversity of culture, not diversity of thought.  Diversity of culture will destroy us.
Wanna come here, fine, but adopt our culture, otherwise they are turning us into the shithole they ran away from.

Agree

There’s a difference between diversity and multiculturalism
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You are welcome. When I heard the narrative, I did some digging and was shocked at how few slaves compared to elsewhere actually came into the US.
The Spanish and Portuguese obviously tried to monopolize the slave trade.

Seems Joy's tirade needs to be directed at them rather than all whites.  What has she got against the Russians and Scandinavians anyway?
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@sneakypete
Sorry Pete... The diversity the socialists are talking about is diversity of culture, not diversity of thought.  Diversity of culture will destroy us.
Wanna come here, fine, but adopt our culture, otherwise they are turning us into the shithole they ran away from.

I agree. We have many cultures that keep to their culture and DO NOT ASSIMILATE into being American. 

Muslim conclaves with Sharia law, hispanic conclaves riding around with the Mexican flags, CHINA TOWNS.  Black ghettos.  All keep their own beliefs and culture.  THAT is not good for America. it is leftist propaganda, that says DIVERSITY is good for us. DIVERSITY WAS THE ROMAN EMPIRES DOWNFALL.

I am NOT saying, there are some, that do assimilate and are fine people. But those who do don't abide by our constitution and laws, are not good for America. This is just common sense.  What is to argue about? 

People from Europe managed to embrace America. Made it great.


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German American Day October 6th

October 2, 2011 GW Administrator NEWS 0

On October 2nd, 1987, President Ronald Reagan, in a ceremony in the Rose Garden of the White House signed the first proclamation into law which made October 6th, National German American Day. This day is celebrated every year and calls the attention of the American people to the many contributions German Americans have made to America in over 300 years in this country.

“Our citizens of German descent excel in every discipline and open our minds to the expanses of human possibility. When we drive across a suspension bridge, listen to music played on a Steinway piano or send a child to Kindergarten, their unique traditions and customs surround us. German Americans have influenced our Nation in myriad ways with their industry, culture, and engagement in public life. America is a stronger Nation because of those families who have established longstanding roots in our country, as well as by those who have recently emigrated from abroad. German immigrants, inhabiting every major city, have given much of themselves throughout our history, selflessly expanding the reach of the American Dream.”

Some fun facts.
Only five years after its founding, in 1683, Germantown became the birthplace of the anti-slavery movement in America.

German cartographer Martin Waldseemüller (1470-1520), who in 1507 drew the Universalis cosmographia was the first to use the name “America” after Amerigo Vespucci on a map. Hailing from Florence Vespucci worked for Lorenzo de’ Medici and was sent to Seville Spain branch of the Medici bank. From where he was invited by the king of Portugal to participate in several voyages. As a trader he was wanted to find a quicker way to Asia, however he was one of the first explorer suggesting that this might be a new world, that is not part of Asia. Upon the return of his travels, he published two accounts.
From those accounts Waldseemüller named the new world on his maps from the feminized Latin version of Amerigo Vespucci’s first name.
Today we live in the United States of America.

German-American architect John A. Roebling who designed the Brooklyn Bridge.
Journalistic standards set by publisher Joseph Pulitzer.
Authors Dr. Seuss, Gertrude Stein, John Steinbeck. L. Frank Baum or Sylvia Plath.
Movie Stars: Hillary Duff, Sandra Bullock, Sarah Chalke, Elijah Wood.
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Presidential Proclamation — German-American Day, 2011 (The White House)
Thu, 06 Oct 2011 21:11:00 +0000.       Release Time:

BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.    A PROCLAMATION

As a Nation of immigrants, America has been shaped and strengthened by the millions who have come to our shores seeking a better future. German men and women were among the first to have made the perilous journey across the Atlantic to seize the promise of the American dream. The same spirit that guided intrepid settlers to help establish Jamestown, Virginia, and found Germantown, Pennsylvania, is reflected in the indelible contributions to our common culture that we celebrate today.

Today, nearly one quarter of all Americans trace their ancestry to Germany, and many familiar American traditions — from Christmas trees to kindergarten — have German origins. German descendants have fundamentally and positively shaped the course of American history. From the wheels of labor and the fields of sport, to the halls of power and throughout our society, generations of German Americans have helped make America what it is today.

The bonds of friendship and trust between the United States and Germany continue to enrich both our nations. Our partnership is more important than ever, and it remains indispensable to global security and prosperity. As we observe German-American Day, we celebrate how far we have come together and remember the lasting legacy that past pioneers have bestowed onto us.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim October 6, 2011, as German-American Day. I encourage all Americans to learn more about the history of German Americans and to commemorate the many contributions they have made to our Nation
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 On October 6, 1683, 13 families landed in Philadelphia, having set sail earlier that year from the German city of Krefeld. These pioneers founded the first German settlement in America: Germantown, Pennsylvania, the first American community to formally protest the evils of slavery. Since this auspicious beginning, millions of German immigrants have come to our Nation in pursuit of personal and religious freedoms and economic opportunity. These immigrants and their descendants have changed the trajectory of the United States, and on German‑American Day, we celebrate their role in helping our country thrive.
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Presidential Proclamation — German-American Day, 2011
Gee, I'm sorry I missed it. I was just reading a document posted online which sets out the history of my German ancestors and their arrival on these shores. One ancestor, born 1727, arrived in Philadelphia in 1733. He fought in the American Revolution, so he kind of helped build this country for his family (which includes me), no matter what Joy Reid thinks.
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Gee, I'm sorry I missed it. I was just reading a document posted online which sets out the history of my German ancestors and their arrival on these shores. One ancestor, born 1727, arrived in Philadelphia in 1733. He fought in the American Revolution, so he kind of helped build this country for his family (which includes me), no matter what Joy Reid thinks.

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Oct 6th is German-Americana day, declared first by Ronald Reagan.  That fact has been removed by media. There is more, I stopped at 1700's.
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A German-American Chronology – combined by Max Kaade Institute
1608 Some Germans accompany Captain John Smith, founder of Jamestown, VA

1618 Thirty Years’ War devastates Germany; the country disintegrates into numerous independent principalities

1626 The Rhinelander Peter Minuit (Minnewit) — director of the Dutch colony-purchases Manhattan from the Indians and builds Ft. New Amsterdam

1633 First publication in Germany encouraging emigration to America

1638 Peter Minuit founds the New Sweden colony

1661 Georg Hack from Cologne settles in Maryland

1668 Researcher and explorer Johann Lederer from Hamburg arrives

1670 Hudson Bay Co. founded with Prince Ruprecht as governor

1676 Nikolaus de Meyer from Hamburg becomes Mayor of New York

1683 Mennonites and Quakers arrive on the “Concord”and found Germantown, PA with Francis Daniel Pastorius as their leader / Vienna defended against Turkish invasion

1688 Germantown’s Pastorius pens first protest against slavery

1689 French armies push toward Rhine and burn Heidelberg castle

1691 British execute Frankfurt-born Jacob Leisler, first elected governor of New York and champion of American independence

1709 First mass emigration from the Palatinate (Pfalz)

1710 650 Palatines and Swiss settle at New Bern, NC

1720 Augsburg and Marienthal founded in Louisiana

1728 Seventh-Day Adventists under Conrad Beissel build Ephrata Cloisters in Pennsylvania

1732 The “Philadelphische Zeitung” (newspaper) appears

1733 Schwenkfelders from Silesia arrive in Pennsylvania

1734 Salzburg Protestants come to Georgia

1735 Printer John Peter Zenger’s acquittal — landmark victory for freedom of the press / Moravians (Herrnhuters) under Count Zinzendorf settle in Georgia

1736 Moravians found Bethlehem,Nazareth, and Lititz, PA

1739 “Germantauner Zeitung” publ. by Christopher Saur / Conrad Beissel at Ephrata publ. first hymnal in America

1741 President Eisenhower’s ancestor-Hans N. Eisenhauer-arrives

1743 First Bible printed in America by Christopher Saur-in German

1764 German Society for the Protection of Immigrants in Philadelphia

1768 Barbara Heck, German-lrish, founds first Methodist church in New York

1772 Pennsylvania Germans (“Dutchmen”) form their own militias / Moravians found Schoenbrunn mission in Ohio

1776 The Great American Revolution / Braunschweiger and Hessian troops land in Quebec (and introduce the decorated Christmas tree to North America); more than 10,000 remained in America

1777 Gen. von Steuben trains American army / Molly Pitcher (Maria Ludwig) fights in several battles / Christopher Ludwig is the army’s director of baking / Major F. von Heer commands Gen. Washington’s German body-guards / Gen. Nicholas Herkimer and the Germans of the Mohawk Valley defeat the British at Oriskan

1779 Gen. von Steuben writes first handbook for U.S. Army

1783 First German brass band founded in Philadelphia

1784 Johann Jacob Astor arrives and becomes richest American / German Society for the Protection of Immigrants founded in New York

1786 Prussia’s Frederick the Great recognizes the independent USA

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I preferred "the diversity" that the USA had ...
... back around 1954...

There was a reason that the future looked brighter in '54 than it does now.
It's called "demographics".

Change the demographics, and... you change the country.

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I preferred "the diversity" that the USA had ...
... back around 1954...

There was a reason that the future looked brighter in '54 than it does now.
It's called "demographics".

Change the demographics, and... you change the country.
If the last sixty-eight years since Brown vs. Board of Education of Topeka, Kansas shows is that integration of schools didn't do one bit to help the education of black children.
It was an article of faith among liberals that when all the segregation in schools and elsewhere was demolished, blacks would rise and gain their place by merit in equal numbers with whites.
That didn't happen.
Black students  are not only on the bottom of scholastic test scores every year, according to more than a few articles I've read by liberal teachers who thought they could reach black students, many mostly black schools are chaotic, violent places where teachers are frequently assaulted by students and little learning goes on.
I still support desegregation.
However, I would eagerly love to see Affirmative Action aka Discrimination demolished and blacks expected to conform with the laws and culture of civilization everybody else is expected to conform to.
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I preferred "the diversity" that the USA had ...
... back around 1954...

There was a reason that the future looked brighter in '54 than it does now.
It's called "demographics".

Change the demographics, and... you change the country.

You are correct. That is the LEFTS PLAN.  FOR THE WORSE....The ACT, allowed people from Africa, Asia= muslims and all Latin countries to come into America.  Congo lady on Statue of Liberty? Hart/Celler Act 1965, put in by LBJ.
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JFK under "civil rights" increased BOTH ILLEGALS & ISLAMISTS coming into America. He started the idea, pushed & promoted the idea that "rich America should give ILLEGALS. ...WELFARE".   LBJ & TEDDY PUSHED THAT idea and now both ideas, are harming America.  UNDER THE GUISE OF CIVIL RIGHTS.
 DEMON-RATS don't want to change this antiquated law, giving illegals welfare. THAT is what draws them here!
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The 1965 act marked a radical break from the immigration policies of the past.

 The law as it stood then excluded Asians and Africans and preferred northern and western Europeans over southern and eastern ones.[2] At the height of the civil rights movement of the 1960s the law was seen as an embarrassment by, among others, President John F. Kennedy, who called the then-quota-system "nearly intolerable".[3]


After Kennedy's assassination, President Lyndon Johnson signed the bill at the foot of the Statue of Liberty as a symbolic foothold of signing the bill.

In order to convince the American people of the legislation's merits, its proponents assured that passage would not influence America's culture significantly. President Johnson called the bill "not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions",[4] while Secretary of State Dean Rusk and other politicians, including Senator Ted Kennedy, hastened to reassure the populace that the demographic mix would not be affected; these assertions would later prove grossly inaccurate.[5]


In line with earlier immigration law, the bill also prohibited the entry into the country of "sexual deviants", including homosexuals. By doing so it crystallized the policy of the INS that had previously been rejecting homosexual immigrants on the grounds that they were "mentally defective" or had a "constitutional psychopathic inferiority". The provision discriminating against gay people was rescinded by the Immigration Act of 1990.[6]
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However, I would eagerly love to see Affirmatives Action aka Discrimination demolished and blacks expected to conform with the laws and culture of civilization everybody else is expected to conform to.

@goatprairie

It is MY not so humble opinion that if this were done,the result would be an almost immediate increase in educated black students.

Oh,it may take a year or three for the reality to sink in that IF they want to pass and get a degree that leads to a good job they are going to have to WORK for it.

Once that realization sets in,the blacks in America will begin to become equals.

It might even take a whole generation for this to become accepted by them and they start to enjoy seeing the fruits of their hard work become rewarding,but it WOULD happen.

Right now they are being paid to remain ignorant slaves of the Dim Party because without job skills or an education,they are as helpless as any new immigrant stepping off the boat that doesn't even speak English.

Which of course,is the way the DNC wants them to remain.
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I will have to take your word for that. We used to use it to bait crab lines,and I am here to tell you that the odor is something "special" when you bust the barrel open to get at it.
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Joy spouted out once too many
Now cancel The View and get those harpies off any broadcast.
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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