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Study compares electric vehicle charge costs vs. gas
« on: October 22, 2021, 07:51:58 am »
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For now, EVs cost more to power than gasoline costs to fuel an internal combustion car that gets reasonable gas mileage.
Charging costs vary more widely than gasoline prices.
There are significant time costs to finding reliable public chargers — even then a charger could take 30 minutes to go from 20% to an 80% charge.
It is the first of a series of reports Anderson Economic Group will release. It started the project — an independent report — more than six months ago.

Patrick Anderson with his Porsche Taycan EV in dark blue in June 2020.
Anderson has worked with the auto industry for 20 years and given the industry's transition to EVs, the group decided to do the studies to assess the likelihood consumer will adopt the cars.



"Part of the strength of the analysis is we’re showing the real-world costs that EV drivers face," Anderson said. "You typically have to go to a commercial charger and commercial charger rates are two, three or four times that of residential charger rates."

Then, there is the time to drive around to find a commercial charger, time that Anderson dubs "deadhead miles." Even charging at home on a Level 1 or Level 2 charger is time consuming and expensive.

The study found that the average cost of a Level 1 charger is $600. To install a Level 2 costs $1,600 because it requires hiring an electrician. An L1 charger uses a 120-volt supply of electricity and can take 20 or more hours to charge, whereas an L2 chargers uses 240 volts and can charge in a few hours.

Real cost to charge up
Anderson's report considers four costs beyond the cost of residential electricity when calculating how much it costs to drive an EV:

Cost of the residential charger
Cost of commercial electricity
An annual EV tax, which in Michigan ranges from $135 to $235, depending on the vehicle model. This is to make up for not paying a gas tax
Deadhead miles to get to a fast charger
Given all of that, the conclusion is EVs cost more to "fuel" than gasoline cars that get reasonable gas mileage, Anderson said. It all depends on how the car is used and how much commercial charging is involved.

A mid-priced internal combustion car that gets 33 miles per gallon would cost $8.58 in overall costs to drive 100 miles at $2.81 a gallon, the study found. But a mid-priced EV, such as Chevrolet Bolt, Nissan Leaf or a Tesla Model 3, would cost $12.95 to drive 100 miles in terms of costs that include recharging the vehicle using mostly a commercial charger.

On a yearly basis, assuming the mid-priced cars traveled 12,000 miles, it would cost  $1,030 to drive an internal combustion car and $1,554 to drive an EV.

For luxury cars that get 26 miles per gallon and using premium gas at $3.25 a gallon, the cost to drive an internal combustion car 100 miles is $12.60. The cost to drive a luxury EV, such as a Taycan, Tesla Model S or X or Jaguar I-Pace, is $15.52 to travel 100 miles. That is using mostly commercial chargers.

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/2021/10/21/electric-vehicle-charging-cost-vs-gas/6110815001/
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Re: Study compares electric vehicle charge costs vs. gas
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2021, 12:51:46 pm »
A greenie cares less how much it costs.

One must save the planet, dontcha know?
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Re: Study compares electric vehicle charge costs vs. gas
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2021, 07:00:04 pm »
A greenie cares less how much it costs.

One must save the planet, dontcha know?
Can you put a price on moral superiority?

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Re: Study compares electric vehicle charge costs vs. gas
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2021, 11:00:38 pm »
Can you put a price on moral superiority?
I betcha God can.  And it is pretty steep
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Re: Study compares electric vehicle charge costs vs. gas
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2021, 11:41:20 pm »
One thing that was not included in the cost of EVs was the cost of battery replacement. How long are batteries lasting in EVs these days? Around 5 years at best? That will sure be a major expense. All of my vehicles are over 20 yrs old now. That would be a lot of battery purchases.