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Offline Mesaclone

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Re: Trump Vows He Will 'Never Forget' Republicans Who Refused to Stand With Him
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2020, 11:38:30 pm »
Lol, that is precisely what a huge number of his supporters think and its honestly scary.

Goodness...are you folks really so poorly educated?

Having seen multiple witch hunts over the past 4 years, no one is better equipped to identify them moving forward then are Trump Supporters. The NY AG is hopelessly politically tainted...should she attempt to move forward and carry out false charges and make a false arrest, it is quite likely the nation will erupt. Citizens will not stand by and watch such a corruption of our nation, the rule of law, nor the constitution.
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Re: Trump Vows He Will 'Never Forget' Republicans Who Refused to Stand With Him
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2020, 11:45:38 pm »
Goodness...are you folks really so poorly educated?

Having seen multiple witch hunts over the past 4 years, no one is better equipped to identify them moving forward then are Trump Supporters. The NY AG is hopelessly politically tainted...should she attempt to move forward and carry out false charges and make a false arrest, it is quite likely the nation will erupt. Citizens will not stand by and watch such a corruption of our nation, the rule of law, nor the constitution.

Not too poorly educated to understand what you are saying.  Which is that Trump supporters are unbiased and decide what is a legitimate legal grievance.  I wait with bated breath to see what you will allow some AG or DA!

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Re: Trump Vows He Will 'Never Forget' Republicans Who Refused to Stand With Him
« Reply #52 on: December 26, 2020, 11:46:46 pm »
No it is not. Populism is basically a reliance on whatever is popular at the time. Whatever defines 'defending the common man' at the time drives its 'ideology', if it could be called that... And in that is as will-o-wisp as anything. And it is the direct contradiction of Conservatism.Your attributing your own negative connotation...not defining populism. Its an adjective...like "enthusiasm"...if its direction is focused on the achievement of liberty and upholding of the rule of law (as it is with the President)...than you are DAMN wrong, as it is entirely a good thing and a perfect compliment to Conservatism. If conservatism is not popular with the common man...than "you ain't sellin' it right"...because it is inherently populist.

No, it is not. That is merely the benefit of the principles that are the point, part and parcel, of Conservatism... Without the principles, none of the rest follows. Like you, I'm a poly sci guy...we can lay out the clinical definition of what conservatism is all day long...what I described was the essence of what it aims to achieve. You're quibbling.

No, I am quite aware of what populism is. And no, populism was not the force behind the American revolution. First, tell that to Sam Adams...who the Tories called "Sam, the publican". Adams turned the taverns in Boston into revolutionary hotbeds and recruited his street fighters over cold brew...and thanks to his efforts, Boston became the epicenter of the Revolution at its outbreak. Second, to be clear, I did not say it was THE force behind the revolution, but rather it was "a" force in the revolution.

Yeah... Stickin it to the man. Works every time.  :silly:
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Re: Trump Vows He Will 'Never Forget' Republicans Who Refused to Stand With Him
« Reply #53 on: December 27, 2020, 07:24:57 am »
Your attributing your own negative connotation...not defining populism. Its an adjective...like "enthusiasm"...if its direction is focused on the achievement of liberty and upholding of the rule of law (as it is with the President)...than you are DAMN wrong, as it is entirely a good thing and a perfect compliment to Conservatism. If conservatism is not popular with the common man...than "you ain't sellin' it right"...because it is inherently populist.

Exactly wrong - I give populism a bad connotation because it is BAD. Twitterpated nonsense built on skittles and unicorn farts. Any moron can lead a crowd, as the current occupant of the White House examples. And that is why all y'all are satisfied by candy thrown from the front of the parade and never get a damn thing done. And no, Conservatism is not populist. Conservatism is the exact opposite of populist - It is a known set, or subset of strictly defined principles, and that is all it is.Conservatism is never going to sell like that, because it ain't sexy. Nothing there to pump up. But it is RIGHT.

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Like you, I'm a poly sci guy...we can lay out the clinical definition of what conservatism is all day long...what I described was the essence of what it aims to achieve. You're quibbling.

No, I am not. And no, it does not.

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First, tell that to Sam Adams...who the Tories called "Sam, the publican". Adams turned the taverns in Boston into revolutionary hotbeds and recruited his street fighters over cold brew...and thanks to his efforts, Boston became the epicenter of the Revolution at its outbreak. Second, to be clear, I did not say it was THE force behind the revolution, but rather it was "a" force in the revolution.

Rabble rousing is not populism.