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Do We Have What They Had in 1776?
« on: December 19, 2020, 02:29:23 pm »
December 19, 2020
Do We Have What They Had in 1776?
By Vince Coyner

In 1776, 56 brave patriots signed their names at the bottom of the Declaration of Independence — a document that spelled out the specifics as to why the thirteen colonies were making a break with England and King George.

Signing that document was treason against the British, and every single man, some with names you know — Benjamin Franklin, Sam Adams, and of course John Hancock — and some you may not, such as Thomas McKean, Button Gwinnett, and Arthur Middleton, risked literal life, limb, and property by doing so.  Had the British prevailed, they very well may have ended their days in front of a firing squad or at the end of a hangman's noose. Yet still they signed.

The interesting thing is, only about a quarter of the population actively supported the break with England at the time the Declaration was signed.  Another quarter, largely those whose fortunes benefited greatly from the connection with England (which some of the signers did themselves), wanted to remain part of the Empire, while fully half the population were what we'd call today "undecided."

The reality is, leaders do what these men and others did: they led, they fought, and they went home and convinced their fellow citizens about the righteousness of their cause and inspired others to join the fight.  In the end, they prevailed, and in doing so, they set forth a path that changed the course of human history, much for the better.

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Re: Do We Have What They Had in 1776?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2020, 02:57:45 pm »

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In the mid-1700’s, the British colonies of North America had many reasons to be disgruntled with the British Empire and the ruling class in England. Recognizing that things would get worse before they got better, many amongst the people banded together to push an ideology they all shared. This ideology identified and acknowledged that every person has from birth certain rights. These are not granted by any authority other than their Creator. The limitation or denial of these rights is defined as tyranny and oppression. These bands of people worked together to peacefully resolve the abuses of their government, but recognized that peace was not a guaranteed solution.

Eventually, an idea was coined of having “Minutemen” available at a moment’s notice should the King’s tyranny show up in their town, on their streets, or at their door. These Minutemen would meet, train, and prepare to defend themselves, their family, and their townships from an ever encroaching empire. It is from these Minutemen where the 3% name originated. It is a rough estimate that only 3% of the colonists were actively fighting in the field against British forces at any given time. Today we recognize with this 3% in being that we will be the last defense to protect the citizens of the United States if there ever comes a day when our government takes up arms against the American people. ...
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Re: Do We Have What They Had in 1776?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2020, 11:02:52 pm »
"Do We Have What They Had in 1776?"

No.
Not any more.

If we still "had it", there would be fighting in the streets in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

I wish that wasn't so.
But... that's the way it is.

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Re: Do We Have What They Had in 1776?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2020, 11:12:58 pm »
"Do We Have What They Had in 1776?"

No.
Not any more.

If we still "had it", there would be fighting in the streets in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

I wish that wasn't so.
But... that's the way it is

Back then they didn't have the population that we have today, nor the technology to create the fraud that went on.  Our Founding Fathers couldn't have imagined or had the foresight to add protections into the Constitution for what just happened.

This is one reason that a Convention of States should have been held several years back. That ship has unfortunately sailed for conservatives.
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Re: Do We Have What They Had in 1776?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2020, 11:26:48 pm »
No, antibiotics clears it right up.

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Re: Do We Have What They Had in 1776?
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2020, 11:18:15 am »
Delusional!  There are no 10 million people ready to hit the streets and take on the authorities in defense of this republic, risking their lives and those of their family.  I doubt even 500,000 folks.

No, we are a weak people when it comes to defending our republic.  One of our two political parties cheated to win the presidency, and who knows what other elections to win power.  Does anyone here actually believe that set of circumstances will improve over time?  Hell no!!

Two Senate seats in Georgia waiting to be stolen, and it may not require theft, for there are enough folks clamoring to vote for socialists/communists.  CLAMORING!!!

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Re: Do We Have What They Had in 1776?
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2020, 11:57:51 am »
Every year there’s a reenactment of Washington crossing the Delaware River that’s semi close to where I grew up. It’s one of the things your parents take you to as a school kid, and you don’t really appreciate but when you go back later as an adult, it makes you humble, and it really puts into perspective what words on a piece of paper cannot.

I’m so proud of what these brave men and women did back then.

I realize my own ancestry came over via Ellis Island, but that doesn’t make me less proud of the moxie I saw in the reenactment(s) on freezing cold days and I know that Washington’s men didn’t go home to a hot breakfast and a hot shower when it was over. They got frostbite. 
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