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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2020, 08:21:02 pm »
One other thing...
What's caught my eye are the articles that suggest that the antibodies people develop from C-19 aren't "permanent", that they begin to "fade away" several months after having recovered from the disease.

I wonder if the protection the vaccine provides will offer only a "limited protection lifespan"?
It might be necessary to take a yearly "booster" to have efficacy over the long-term...
In terms of antibodies, that at least partially appears to be true, though some of the evidence of that is anecdotal (such as the story out of Madrid that found high rates of infection but low antibody positives—they presumed the antibodies must have faded, but had no evidence to back that up).

But the good news is that coronavirus immunity does not appear to be driven by antibodies—instead, it's the T-cells that recognize the virus. T-cell recognition not only appears to last decades, but they also seem to respond to a broad spectrum of coronavirus strains, reducing the likelihood that mutation will spoil any efforts at herd immunity. (Antibodies, on the other hand, tend to be much more narrow in their scope.)
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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2020, 08:22:40 pm »


But the good news is that coronavirus immunity does not appear to be driven by antibodies—instead, it's the T-cells that recognize the virus. T-cell recognition not only appears to last decades, but they also seem to respond to a broad spectrum of coronavirus strains, reducing the likelihood that mutation will spoil any efforts at herd immunity. (Antibodies, on the other hand, tend to be much more narrow in their scope.)

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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2020, 08:45:59 pm »
So...this virus isn't being handled any better, or worse than the rest of them in antiquity?  The primary difference is the level of political noise, and it's panicking the population.  See who benefits from that and you have your culprit.
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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2020, 09:00:21 pm »
So...this virus isn't being handled any better, or worse than the rest of them in antiquity?  The primary difference is the level of political noise, and it's panicking the population.  See who benefits from that and you have your culprit.

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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2020, 09:06:34 pm »
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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2020, 09:17:02 pm »
I've been known to swerve into the truth every great once in a while.... 333cleo 333cleo 333cleo 333cleo

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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2020, 10:05:04 pm »
Anecdotal life experience:

All childhood vacinnes

Polio childhood when it was new


All military vaccines

All recommended adult vaccines (flu pneumonia)

Never heard of problems with my family members

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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2020, 12:11:24 am »
Anecdotal life experience:

All childhood vacinnes

Polio childhood when it was new


All military vaccines

All recommended adult vaccines (flu pneumonia)

Never heard of problems with my family members

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Interesting. 
My thoughts on the subject is...  Thank God for Jonas Edward Salk who developed one of the first successful polio vaccines.

In modern times we do not have to worry about small pox thanks to Edward Jenner.

Please forgive me if I say any of these modern asshats can take there vaccine and shoot it up there you no what. 
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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2020, 12:22:52 am »
Interesting. 
My thoughts on the subject is...  Thank God for Jonas Edward Salk who developed one of the first successful polio vaccines.

In modern times we do not have to worry about small pox thanks to Edward Jenner.

Please forgive me if I say any of these modern asshats can take there vaccine and shoot it up there you no what.

You are right ... why should any of us trust these modern day azzes?  Lots of rumors swirling surrounding the expedited vaccine(s).   There is a "global vaccine foundation" that Bill Gates is in part funding -- lots of rumors swirling around about him as well.

I'm good.  I think I can do without.  I've done without the flu vaccine and I'm still breathing.  I trust NO one, especially now that our fine governor DeSantis has given authority to his Secy of health to mandate and force quarantines and vaccines.  Lovely!
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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2020, 12:32:35 am »
You are right ... why should any of us trust these modern day azzes?  Lots of rumors swirling surrounding the expedited vaccine(s).   There is a "global vaccine foundation" that Bill Gates is in part funding -- lots of rumors swirling around about him as well.

I'm good.  I think I can do without.  I've done without the flu vaccine and I'm still breathing.  I trust NO one, especially now that our fine governor DeSantis has given authority to his Secy of health to mandate and force quarantines and vaccines.  Lovely!

I will GUARANTEE that one of Gates' companies will find the miracle cure... and then you will know the fix is in. Furthermore, it will not be a single dose... it will take 'boosters' because a fast-morphing virus is impossible to vaccinate against... And if it becomes mandated, with no right to enter businesses without it... hoo boy, the clamp will be complete. Already they are forcing folks out of cash and onto plastic, where every purchase can be tracked... Then a mandatory injection every six months or so, or you can;t do business or have a job...

How hard are you to blackball then? Bend a knee or head for the hills and all the hardship that will bring... Most will bend the knee.

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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2020, 12:47:47 am »
I will GUARANTEE that one of Gates' companies will find the miracle cure... and then you will know the fix is in. Furthermore, it will not be a single dose... it will take 'boosters' because a fast-morphing virus is impossible to vaccinate against... And if it becomes mandated, with no right to enter businesses without it... hoo boy, the clamp will be complete. Already they are forcing folks out of cash and onto plastic, where every purchase can be tracked... Then a mandatory injection every six months or so, or you can;t do business or have a job...

How hard are you to blackball then? Bend a knee or head for the hills and all the hardship that will bring... Most will bend the knee.
They already setting the foundation for multiple shots. One shot would be too simple. They want to keep everything as complicated as possible to keep everybody tense and off-balance.

If we lose the election and Democrats are in charge again. America is truly finished.
That is not rhetoric. That is true fact.

Don't know what we will become, but it will be some kind of post-apocalyptic nightmare. We are halfway there already.
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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2020, 01:03:52 am »
They already setting the foundation for multiple shots. One shot would be too simple. They want to keep everything as complicated as possible to keep everybody tense and off-balance.

If we lose the election and Democrats are in charge again. America is truly finished.
That is not rhetoric. That is true fact.

Don't know what we will become, but it will be some kind of post-apocalyptic nightmare. We are halfway there already.

Doesn't matter which side wins... It is coming either way.

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Re: Gallup: One-Third of Americans Would Not Get a Coronavirus Vaccine
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2020, 02:49:23 am »
You are right ... why should any of us trust these modern day azzes?  Lots of rumors swirling surrounding the expedited vaccine(s).   There is a "global vaccine foundation" that Bill Gates is in part funding -- lots of rumors swirling around about him as well.

I'm good.  I think I can do without.  I've done without the flu vaccine and I'm still breathing.  I trust NO one, especially now that our fine governor DeSantis has given authority to his Secy of health to mandate and force quarantines and vaccines.  Lovely!

I trust God, my wife and children and a very few long time close friends. That's about it.  And I'll have no part of their damned vacine.

COVID-19 Vaccine Messaging, Part 1

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0...cntry=US&draw=2

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ClinicalTrials.gov Identifier: NCT04460703
Recruitment Status : Completed
First Posted : July 7, 2020
Last Update Posted : July 21, 2020
Sponsor:
Yale University
Information provided by (Responsible Party):
Yale University


Study Description

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Brief Summary:

This study tests different messages about vaccinating against COVID-19 once the vaccine becomes available. Participants are randomized to 1 of 12 arms, with one control arm and one baseline arm. We will compare the reported willingness to get a COVID-19 vaccine at 3 and 6 months of it becoming available between the 10 intervention arms to the 2 control arms.

Study participants are recruited online by Lucid, which matches census based sampling in online recruitment.

Condition or disease Intervention/treatment Phase
Vaccination COVID-19 Other: Control message Other: Baseline message Other: Personal freedom message Other: Economic freedom message Other: Self-interest message Other: Community interest message Other: Economic benefit message Other: Guilt message Other: Embarrassment message Other: Anger message Other: Trust in science message Other: Not bravery message Not Applicable

Study Design
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Study Type : Interventional (Clinical Trial)
Actual Enrollment : 4000 participants
Allocation: Randomized
Intervention Model: Parallel Assignment
Intervention Model Description: In this study, 2/15 of participants will be assigned to a control message (bird feeding passage), 3/15 of sample to a baseline vaccine message, and 1/15 to each of the 10 other treatment arms.
Masking: None (Open Label)
Primary Purpose: Other
Official Title: Persuasive Messages for COVID-19 Vaccine Uptake: a Randomized Controlled Trial, Part 1
Actual Study Start Date : July 3, 2020
Actual Primary Completion Date : July 8, 2020
Actual Study Completion Date : July 8, 2020
Arms and Interventions
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