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Remembering Jose Lima, the human antidepressant
« on: March 31, 2020, 08:04:29 pm »
Lima Time was 25 hours a day eight days a week. The former pitcher’s death at 37 almost a decade ago still wrenches.
By Yours Truly
https://calltothepen.com/2020/03/31/houston-astros-jose-lima-pitcher-human-antidepressant/


Jose Lima---good times, bad times, it was always Lima Time, especially when he
shut the Cardinals out in Game Three of the 2004 National League division series.


Of anyone who's ever played professional, very few, in any era, have looked as though they really did play for the love of the game. We learn only when they're unable to play any longer that they really did love the game for its own sake, no matter the money, no matter the controversies.

Some love it too much to keep themselves steady. Some can't bear to let the world see anything other than the difficulty involved in playing the game, on and off the field, in the inferno of the public eye. Some get slapped down unconscionably, early enough on, that the joy gets driven to places they alone are allowed to visit, when nobody is watching, and the burdens are driven forward enough to wreak havoc more than hits and runs.

And, then there are those who don't let the smugger-than-thou contingencies — in the dugout, on the field, in the press box, in the constellations of baseball government — or their own furies compromise their love of the game. One way or another, they succeed in melting away the iciest blasts fired toward them and leave one and all laughing no matter how well they are or aren't doing on the field.

It's bad enough that we don't appreciate them while they're playing the game. It's worse when they leave the game and only then do you notice something special went away when they did. When they die not long after that, you can't really explain that wrench.

A few years ago, Bryce Harper dropped some jaws when he designed and sported a cap taking a cue from Donald Trump's "Make America Great Again" caps and saying, "Make Baseball Fun Again." When Harper spoke about the fun of the game (as he still does when moved to do so), he could have said one of the players who might have inspired him that way was a pitcher named Jose Lima.

Lima died almost ten years ago, when a massive heart attack killed him at 37. He was someone about whom you really could say he was great for your team and the game itself even when he couldn't find the strike zone with a compass and a guide dog.

Forget the birth certificate that said Dominican Republic. Lima was really on loan from his own planet. Almost six decades of baseball watching, observing, and reading haven't shown me anyone who was Lima's kind of ebullient even in the middle of his worst times on the mound.

It didn't matter whether he was a 20-game winner and All Star. (For the 1999 Houston Astros.) Or, whether he was one of the culprits behind a nineteen-game losing streak. (The 2005 Kansas City Royals; Lima was the losing pitcher for number nineteen.) Or, whether he helped pitch a team to the postseason. (The 2004 Los Angeles Dodgers, about which more shortly.) Or, whether he kept it real in the middle of one final major league humiliation. (0-4/9.87 ERA/6.09 FIP, for the 2006 New York Mets.)

Jose Lima was a human antidepressant. During his Houston days he was said to have roomed with a fellow Latino who was so homesick he decided he'd play baseball just long enough to build a lifetime's security for the wife and family he missed so desperately, and that was that. Then, he got Lima for a roommate. Goodbye homesickness; hasta la vista, misery.

There really was no crying in baseball when the clock struck Lima Time, which was about 25 hours a day, eight days a week. But it took the Show long enough to catch on that he wasn't out to show anybody up. Baseball was Lima's party, and he wanted everybody in on the fun. Even when he beat you on the mound. Even in the thick of a postseason trying his damnedest to get his team to their first postseason win since the 1988 World Series.

The only game the 2004 Dodgers won that postseason turned out to be Lima's signature pitching performance. He may have been the only person in Dodger Stadium and among the broadcast audience who wasn't surprised that he went back out to pitch the ninth inning, even with the St. Louis Cardinals' intercontinental ballistic wing due to hit.

"Every time we've needed the big win," Dodger first baseman Shawn Green said after Lima finished his rip-roaring, five-hit, Game Three division series shutout, "he's given it to us."

Which was pretty good for a guy who made that club in the first place, and got tapped at first as one of the bullpen bulls, only because Paul Shuey ruptured a thumb tendon. Lima shook off a horrible beginning to spend at least a month surrendering no earned runs, pitching his way into the rotation, and helping turn Dodger Stadium into a party house. He made that year's Boston Red Sox, the self-proclaimed Idiots, resemble a ward of clinical depressives.

Then he gave the Cardinals and every baseball fan on the planet something to remember him by in the ninth of that division series gem, after stadium audience and television broadcasters alike took bets on whether he'd be pulled for the pen in the sixth, seventh, or eighth innings.

He gave Albert Pujols a strike, something to turn into a foul pop into the stands past first base, a waste pitch away, and something to loft to right center, high and deep enough for Milton Bradley to reach in time for a catch.

He gave Scott Rolen two high sliders just outside, then a fastball right down the pipe for a called strike, then nothing better to hit than a meatball with Dodger center fielder Steve Finley's name on it.

And he gave Jim Edmonds a called strike on the top shelf and something worth a mere skyscraper popup to Hall of Famer-in-waiting Adrian Beltre at third.

Then Lima kicked into his usual post-game, post-win routine — hugging, high-fiving, fist-pumping, skip-dancing, cheek-smooching (teammates, pitching coach, trainer, manager, whoever was available), windmilling the crowd to ramp up the racket, then crowing into the microphone of field reporter (and former Show manager) Kevin Kennedy like a kid who'd just received the keys to his own chocolate factory and a prom date with the number one dream girl in town — into ludicrous speed.

"It is line-up time, it is hug time, and it is definitely Lima Time," Dodgers broadcaster Vin Scully said as Lima worked his teammates into his joy.

"The fans deserve this," whooped the human 'toon who'd just snuck sticks of dynamite into the Cardinals' picnic baskets and slipped out of sight two seconds before they went kaboom. "I love everybody. I'm pitching with my heart because I know they deserve it."

Not long before his death, Lima opened a southern California baseball academy and joined the Dodgers' Alumni Association. Two days before he died, he basked in a wild ovation from the Dodger Stadium faithful, when he went there with his eleven-year-old son to watch a game.

Almost a full decade later, it's hard to forget what Dan Evans, the Dodger general manager who took the flyer on Lima for 2004, came right out and said it after the shock of his death. The biggest part of Lima was the part that killed him too soon---his heart.
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Re: Remembering Jose Lima, the human antidepressant
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2020, 09:45:34 pm »
I remember "Lima time" quite well.
I saw him pitch in the Dome a few times.
Once Minute Maid opened, the Crawford boxes seemed to stick in his head and he never quite pitched the same as an Astros.
It was nice that he had that redeeming moment against the Cardinals. too bad it was in a (cough) Dodgers uniform.
I watched the game, pretty much by accident.
I can't recall what I was doing.
Probably just flipping channels, and I stopped and said "Hey look, there's Jose pitching in the play-offs."

He was quite the beloved figure in Houston.

1999 was a good year for the Astros, but, once again, they couldn't get past the Bobby Cox Braves of that era.
Hampton, Lima, and Reynolds, were a pretty good 1-2-3 in their rotation that year.

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Re: Remembering Jose Lima, the human antidepressant
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2020, 10:07:23 pm »
1999 was a good year for the Astros, but, once again, they couldn't get past the Bobby Cox Braves of that era.
Nobody could get past the Bobby Cox Braves---except in the World Series and a few LCS's, that is.  wink777


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Re: Remembering Jose Lima, the human antidepressant
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2020, 11:10:12 pm »
I have a question @EasyAce  and you are the go to.

Why doesn't some station start broadcasting old baseball, football, basketball, hockey games, etc. during the sports drought?

I think there is an audience and some bucks to be made.

Myself...I would adore watching the Cowboys from the 70's. :laugh:

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Re: Remembering Jose Lima, the human antidepressant
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2020, 11:51:06 pm »
I have a question @EasyAce  and you are the go to.

Why doesn't some station start broadcasting old baseball, football, basketball, hockey games, etc. during the sports drought?

I think there is an audience and some bucks to be made.
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Aside from MLB Network and ESPN apparently doing just that, there are tons of vintage games available on YouTube, including a small truckload of vintage radio broadcasts.

I wrote recently one---the final game ever played by the Washington Senators, the one that ended in a forfeit to the Yankees when RFK Stadium fans rioted onto the field as Senators reliever Joe Grzenda stood one out away from saving a 7-5 win for Paul Lindblad.



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Re: Remembering Jose Lima, the human antidepressant
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2020, 12:46:02 pm »
Nobody could get past the Bobby Cox Braves---except in the World Series and a few LCS's, that is.  wink777

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Those Braves teams routinely got all dressed up with no place to go.....

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Re: Remembering Jose Lima, the human antidepressant
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2020, 02:13:16 pm »
I'm going to ignore the Braves comments and comment that José Fernández was another player that was just outright fun to watch.
Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good, too. -Yogi Berra

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Re: Remembering Jose Lima, the human antidepressant
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2020, 02:14:14 pm »
I'm going to ignore the Braves comments and comment that José Fernández was another player that was just outright fun to watch.

Was the the pinch hitter who jacked the home run in the World Series?

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Re: Remembering Jose Lima, the human antidepressant
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2020, 02:41:20 pm »
I'm going to ignore the Braves comments and comment that José Fernández was another player that was just outright fun to watch.
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Indeed he was!

In my lifetime, there've been Tug McGraw, Bill (Spaceman) Lee, Mark (The Bird) Fidrych (done in by injuries starting the season after his Rookie of the Year season), "Super Joe" Charboneau (back injury on a running play the year after his ROY season put paid to his career, ultimately), Fernando Valenzuela, Rickey (The Man of Steal) Henderson, Andy Van Slyke (on and off the field), Ozzie Smith (even if you hated the Cardinals you loved the running cartwheel-into-backflip out to his shortstop position), practically every 2004 Red Sox (name one other team who'd say of themselves, as Johnny Damon did, "We're just a bunch of idiots who love playing baseball"), David Eckstein, Bryce Harper (maybe what a lot of people really didn't like about the kid was that he made no apology for playing baseball like he really was having fun), Mike Trout (you should see him before Angel games---when he's not loosening up for the game he's kibbitzing and kidding around with fans and teammates), Sean Doolittle, Pete Alonso, and, hell, practically all of last year's Nationals including Stephen Strasburg.

(Any team who could get Strasburg to loosen up in the dugout just had to be a fun bunch of guys. Likewise any team who'd pick up on a journeyman's thing with his little daughter and turn "Baby Shark" into a team rally point. I hope they don't lose the dugout dancing, either. For a team down so low it looked like up to them near the end of last May, those Nats reminded themselves this game was supposed to be fun---and had baseball's best record from that May low-point right through the end of the World Series. And if the other sourpuss teams want to bitch? Let them bitch.)
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Re: Remembering Jose Lima, the human antidepressant
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2020, 02:42:09 pm »
Was the the pinch hitter who jacked the home run in the World Series?
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I think she was referring to the Marlins pitcher killed in that off-season boating accident.


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Re: Remembering Jose Lima, the human antidepressant
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2020, 02:43:20 pm »
@GrouchoTex
I think she was referring to the Marlins pitcher killed in that off-season boating accident.

Okay, thanks.
Yep, he was fun to watch.

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Re: Remembering Jose Lima, the human antidepressant
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2020, 02:55:23 pm »
@GrouchoTex
I think she was referring to the Marlins pitcher killed in that off-season boating accident.

Yep.
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2020, 03:02:52 pm »
Okay, thanks.
Yep, he was fun to watch.
I forgot to mention another fun pitcher to watch in my lifetime---Juan Marichal. He had about sixteen different windups and about eight different leg kicks including the Rockettes-high kick that helped make him famous in the first place.

He was also a pretty good practical joker, his apparent favourite prank having been to catch elaborately carved perfume bottles his teammates kept in their lockers before presenting them to their wives or girl friends---and load them with stink bombs.

Then, there was Moe Drabowsky, relief pitcher and all-time flake, who had fun on and off the mound, including but not limited to . . .

* Being such a dead-on vocal mimic that he once rattled Kansas City Athletics pitcher Jim Nash by phoning the A's bullpen, in a dead-on impression of manager Alvin Dark, and ordered a relief pitcher to start warming up---while Nash was working on a solid shutout. Nash promptly fell apart and had to be lifted.

* Running a string of very loud fireworks from the visitors' bullpen to the teepee of longtime Braves mascot Chief Noc-A-Homa and lighting them to rattle the old chief. (Drabowsky couldn't stifle his snickering when he owned up to the gag and said, "I was waiting for the chief to surrender.")

Not to mention Roger McDowell, relief pitcher once named the Met most likely to be committed. I was only half kidding when I once wrote, upon McDowell becoming the Braves' pitching coach, that even the stiffs on their staffs (for how many years did I think the only Brave in creation who knew baseball was supposed to be fun was Chipper Jones, and there was probably no deeper student of the game in his time than him, too) would suddenly become masters of hot feet, upside-down uniforms, and other tricks and treats.

There was no funnier or more explosive hotfoot anywhere than the one McDowell and his co-conspirator Howard Johnson landed on Mets first base coach Bill Robinson in a game against the Reds once upon a time: they crafted a slow-burner involving a cigarette portion, bubble gum for glue, and a book of matches, the cigarette's short stubby length perfect for timing it up to explode up the back of Robinson's heel and ankle the moment he arrived back on the first base coaching line. The game was televised nationally (the Mets' home station had become a superstation by then) and even the Reds---including then-manager Pete Rose---were busting their guts laughing before Robinson hopped around howling.


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