Hillary Clinton touts Electoral College abolition: 'The person who gets the most votes should win'

[thackney]

A Fishrrman just-about-fearless prediction:
Within 20 years -- certainly within 30 -- the Electoral College won't matter any more.

By then, changing demographics will have "turned Texas", and without Texas, there will never be a Republican elected president again.

And when that day comes, the only choices for traditional-minded Euro-Americans who may still hold majorities in those "red states" that are left will be to:
1. submit,
or
2. fight.

Not the best future, but I call 'em as I see 'em, and that's what I see comin' down the road ahead...

You should look at actual Texas election voting trends, rather than fears about what might happen.

As Texas Hispanic percentage of population has grown significantly over the last couple decades, so has the GOP strength and control of government.

Stop confusing a Hispanic refinery or construction worker in Texas with a California Welfare Queen.  We had Mexicans standing with us at the Alamo and before.  They are part of our heritage and our strength.

[skeeter]

You should look at actual Texas election voting trends, rather than fears about what might happen.

As Texas Hispanic percentage of population has grown significantly over the last couple decades, so has the GOP strength and control of government.

Stop confusing a Hispanic refinery or construction worker in Texas with a California Welfare Queen.  We had Mexicans standing with us at the Alamo and before.  They are part of our heritage and our strength.

It would make an interesting sociological study to find out why the two demographics, ethnically similar, are so culturally different.

[sneakypete]

It would make an interesting sociological study to find out why the two demographics, ethnically similar, are so culturally different.

@skeeter

Not really. The Americans of Mexican descent are people who fled poverty in Mexico,and came here to work and better themselves.

The Poverty Peons in California are pretty much Mexican leftists that came here for all the "free" stuff. They came here to retire in place,not work. That's why they went to Ca instead of Texas.

[PeteS in CA]

Many people of Mexican ancestry living in California are descended from Mexicans who lived in California when it was a Mexican state (some of whom fought for independence from Mexico, BTW), or who came here (California) decades ago, legally. Some of their children were my classmates in the Yolo County schools I attended, so I'm speaking from first-hand experience.

Obviously, there are Central American illegals in California, and the Ninth Circus struck down Proposition 187         (look it up, @sneakypete!). But reality is far more complex than stereotypes, even in California.

[verga]

@roamer_1

That would almost certainly be overturned as unconstitutional under Reynolds v. Sims.  I think that was in the top 5 worst Supreme Court decisions of all time, but it is unfortunately precedent.

Just hanging out here makes me smarter, not a lat mind you, but definitely smarter.

[sneakypete]

Many people of Mexican ancestry living in California are descended from Mexicans who lived in California when it was a Mexican state (some of whom fought for independence from Mexico, BTW), or who came here (California) decades ago, legally. Some of their children were my classmates in the Yolo County schools I attended, so I'm speaking from first-hand experience.

Obviously, there are Central American illegals in California, and the Ninth Circus struck down Proposition 187         (look it up, @sneakypete!). But reality is far more complex than stereotypes, even in California.

@PeteS in CA

True,but I see no organization of His and Her Panics in California that support conservative causes. Every single one I am aware of supports leftist causes.

I suspect many o the families you write about  have left California for more opportunity and because they don't want those people for neighbors,either.

BTW,FWIW,my deceased sister married a Mexican man,and she was the parasite. One of her children was a useless "cholo" with 5 children by 5 different women the last time I heard,and no permanent address as he lived with various "baby mamas" in their welfare  homes while waiting to be sentenced for a felony I can't remember. Second felony offense,so he won't be free for a LONG time.

He was fond of ranting about how "the white man never gives the brown man a chance!",while ignoring the FACT that his 1st generation American father was a successful businessman owning and  running his own body and paint shop,and his little brother was a freaking brain surgeon. He and his brother might as well came from different universes. He took after his mother,who was also a professional victim,and his little brother took after his father.

[jmyrlefuller]

You should look at actual Texas election voting trends, rather than fears about what might happen.

As Texas Hispanic percentage of population has grown significantly over the last couple decades, so has the GOP strength and control of government.

Stop confusing a Hispanic refinery or construction worker in Texas with a California Welfare Queen.  We had Mexicans standing with us at the Alamo and before.  They are part of our heritage and our strength.

It's something that has confounded Democrats for a long time. Texas Hispanics consistently vote further to the right than those in other states.

No, the increasing closeness of Texas elections is instead largely caused by Rick Perry's efforts to lure hipster millennials from blue states, who congregate in places like Austin.

[Fishrrman]

thackney wrote:
"Stop confusing a Hispanic refinery or construction worker in Texas with a California Welfare Queen.  We had Mexicans standing with us at the Alamo and before.  They are part of our heritage and our strength."

So... your Mexicans are different from their Mexicans, eh...?
I can't swallow that one.

The state borders may be different on the North side, but down south... it's the same "Mexico".

And what's gonna make the difference in Texas IS NOT the Hispanic/Texans who were there for generations. Rather, it's the ones who have poured across the border in the last 15 years. They're having lots of kids. How will they vote upon reaching age 18?

I recall an article I read (and posted) here at the briefing room several months' back. Its centerpoint was the number of "Anglo" births vis-a-vis Hispanic births in Texas. The number of nonwhite births down there is around 70% (or higher).

SEVENTY percent.
What does that say for the state's future?
Do you really, really believe that once Texas "turns" from white-majority to Hispanic-majority, that its politics won't turn, as well?

Let's watch the next two or three election cycles down there.
I predict a lot of Euro folks are gonna start seein' this:

[dfwgator]

She also said that the team who gains the most yards should win the Super Bowl.

[sneakypete]

thackney wrote:
"Stop confusing a Hispanic refinery or construction worker in Texas with a California Welfare Queen.  We had Mexicans standing with us at the Alamo and before.  They are part of our heritage and our strength."

So... your Mexicans are different from their Mexicans, eh...?
I can't swallow that one.

 

@thackney

Well,they ARE different. For one thing,most of the people you would identify as "Mexicans" in Texas are the descendants of Mexicans who have been living there for generations. They may be of Mexican descent and "look a little/lot Indian,but they consider themselves to be Americans,no different than you.

The current Mexicans/South Americans that cross our border illegally into Texas get the hell out of Texas as quickly as possible because most of them aren't coming here for jobs or to be Americans,but are coming here to retire early on all the "free stuff". California and Oregon are where that is being  handed out,and they know that once they get there they are protected by the local government and won't be deported.

In other words,the typical illegal alien in Texas is just passing through.

I lived in what was called a "Mexican neighborhood" in Denver for a couple of years,and have to admit that I didn't have any trouble with any of the residents. I found them to be VERY friendly people for the most part,and as happy to help me if I needed something as I was to help them.

The obvious exceptions were the ones living in the crack house on the corner,but after I walked though the open door one night carrying my pump shotgun and telling them all that if I heard of any of their retarded children chasing my pregnant cat again with knives tied to broomsticks,I would be back and kill all of them and all of their children. Never had a minute of trouble with any of them after that. Some people you just have to know how to negotiate with to make them responsible.

The people that lived next door were terrified of my dobie,but would still bring me steak bones to give to her after their Friday night dinners. Other people a few houses away that I didn't even know found my dobie running around playing with some kids (she LOVED kids) one day,and I found her tied up in their back yard after they sent word to me they had her. They tied her up so animal control couldn't get her.

I just really have nothing negative to say about them after living in their neighborhood,other than the crack heads and a few cholo relatives that sometimes came to visit,but show me ANY culture that has crackheads and "tv bad asses" that are any different or any better.

Well,I thought about it for a minute and had to add this comment. I will NEVER understand why so many Mexicans and their descendants get insulted if you mention they have Indian ancestors,and want to insist their ancestors are Spanish. I am 1/4 American Indian myself,and I see it as something to neither be ashamed OR proud of. After all,*I* had nothing to do with it.

[jafo2010]

Studies have shown 2nd generation Hispanic Americans are overwhelmingly Republican.  So the notion that a flood of Hispanics into the country will lead to going blue forever is just a false notion.

[Fishrrman]

jafo wrote:
"Studies have shown 2nd generation Hispanic Americans are overwhelmingly Republican.  So the notion that a flood of Hispanics into the country will lead to going blue forever is just a false notion."

California.
New Mexico.
New York.
Illinois.
South Texas.

[jmyrlefuller]

jafo wrote:
"Studies have shown 2nd generation Hispanic Americans are overwhelmingly Republican.  So the notion that a flood of Hispanics into the country will lead to going blue forever is just a false notion."

California.
New Mexico.
New York.
Illinois.
South Texas.

Florida.

[dfwgator]

Florida.

Younger Cuban-Americans in SoFla are increasingly Rat.

[jmyrlefuller]

Younger Cuban-Americans in SoFla are increasingly Rat.

So are younger Americans of every race. That's what public education does to you.

[ArneFufkin]

Glad you clarified the year. I was confused for just an instant.

When I see pics like that I always think ... "That's a lot of splitting of precious gig money".

Rush, ZZ Top, Nirvana, Police .... they had it right.   Split the artist proceeds three ways.   

[ArneFufkin]

So are younger Americans of every race. That's what public education does to you.

Somebody floated the idea of the Universities paying back the kids who were snookered into these insidious Student Loans.  I like it.  These so-called Institutes of "Higher Learning" FLEECED the GSL and their students once the Obama regime took it from the banks.

They were the beneficiaries and many have $Billions of taxpayer funded State university and college slush funds and EVEN MORE in these Private School (i.e. Private Millionaire Parking) endowment funds.

One college ... St. Olaf in Northfield, MN .. has a $530 MILLION endowment.  Those were all tax writeoffs for rich people and they GET Federal assistance.

C'mon!  If, for whatever reason some non-taxable Lefty "non-profit" or "Foundation" doesn't send these kids into the grinder, they can always get a Fed loan.

https://wp.stolaf.edu/financialaid/loans/



Higher Education is a major taxpayer grift, and the kids are coming out more stupid, pathological and anti-American than when they entered.

[verga]

Somebody floated the idea of the Universities paying back the kids who were snookered into these insidious Student Loans.  I like it.  These so-called Institutes of "Higher Learning" FLEECED the GSL and their students once the Obama regime took it from the banks.

They were the beneficiaries and many have $Billions of taxpayer funded State university and college slush funds and EVEN MORE in these Private School (i.e. Private Millionaire Parking) endowment funds.

One college ... St. Olaf in Northfield, MN .. has a $530 MILLION endowment.  Those were all tax writeoffs for rich people and they GET Federal assistance.

C'mon!  If, for whatever reason some non-taxable Lefty "non-profit" or "Foundation" doesn't send these kids into the grinder, they can always get a Fed loan.

https://wp.stolaf.edu/financialaid/loans/



Higher Education is a major taxpayer grift, and the kids are coming out more stupid, pathological and anti-American than when they entered.

The problem was federally guaranteed student loans. Once that happened the colleges and universities knew they would get their money no matter what. People that could not afford college or had no business in higher education wee going. The schools had to offer classes so they began the era of Mayan lesbian dance theory and advanced basket weaving with a minor in how to be a victim. Tuition rates went up and the quality went down the tubes. The only places offering a somewhat decent education are the Community colleges. Or if you are interested in a decent job, Trade schools.

[dfwgator]

You know damn well if Hillary won the election, but not the popular vote, she'd be singing a whole different tune.