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Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« on: October 06, 2018, 01:37:41 am »
Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, expected to be the lone Republican "no" vote on Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, said Friday she plans to vote "present" in his final confirmation vote as a courtesy to Sen. Steve Daines, R-Mont.

Doing so will allow Republicans to preserve what is expected to be a two-vote margin to confirm Kavanaugh.

"This will not change the outcome," said Murkowski.

Daines, a longtime Kavanaugh supporter, announced Thursday that he could end up missing the vote the Senate will have this weekend for his daughter's Saturday wedding in Montana. He said he would be headed back after the wedding for the vote, which he at the time said could be held open until late Saturday or early morning Sunday for his return to Washington.

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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2018, 01:52:38 am »
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2018, 02:28:52 am »
I guess that's the best she can do.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2018, 02:48:19 am »
GOP Sen. Lisa Murkowski explains no vote on Kavanaugh

Murkowski explains the "present" vote at the end of her speech.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58P5SrjEUHo

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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2018, 02:52:02 am »
Good for her.  Tester should have been the one doing this, but he is too full of Democrat spite to recognize it.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2018, 03:17:16 am »
Next  week make sure to strip her of ALL of her committee assignments. Let her languish in oblivion.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2018, 03:36:05 am »
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2018, 03:38:40 am »
DO NOT TRUST THIS DUPLICITOUS BITCH!!!! SHE WILL VOTE NO AND JAM UP THE WORKS!!!! SHE IS A PROGRESSIVE HACK!!!!!
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2018, 03:41:57 am »
Nah - she won't go back on not voting.  There's no point in that kind of gamesmanship because Mitch could just hold the vote open, or simply hold the vote again. She'd accomplish nothing other than personally alienating Collins and other Senators.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2018, 05:56:04 am »
No.  Anything less than 51 votes will be declared illegal by the Rats, the press will lap it up, and Kav will be impeached the first chance the rats get.  Enough Pubbies in the Senate could collapse to the pressure by the media and he'll be out.

If we need to get Daines to get the 51 votes, a Representative has offered the use of a plane to get him to DeeCee.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2018, 08:41:57 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on October 06, 2018, 05:56:04 am
No.  Anything less than 51 votes will be declared illegal by the Rats, the press will lap it up, and Kav will be impeached the first chance the rats get.  Enough Pubbies in the Senate could collapse to the pressure by the media and he'll be out.

If we need to get Daines to get the 51 votes, a Representative has offered the use of a plane to get him to DeeCee.

We won't get less than 51 votes. With Manchin it's at least 51. If we didn't get Manchin, murkowski, flake, or collins, then it would have been only 49.

She is voting present so we have a quorum.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2018, 03:24:37 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 06, 2018, 08:41:57 am
We won't get less than 51 votes. With Manchin it's at least 51. If we didn't get Manchin, murkowski, flake, or collins, then it would have been only 49.

She is voting present so we have a quorum.

If she does that, then the threshold for confirmation is legally 50 votes,  When was the last time a Rat cared about what's legal?  Mark my words, if Kav gets anything less than 51 votes he'll be hounded off the court by the Rats and their willing accomplices in the press.

No, Daines needs to avail himself of the offer of a ride on a private jet to get to DeeCee, and McConnell needs to keep the vote open until he gets there.  No trickery of the kind Murky offers.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2018, 03:36:22 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on October 06, 2018, 02:28:52 am
I guess that's the best she can do.

She is all heart, isn't she @Sanguine
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2018, 03:47:57 pm »
Quote from: Emjay on October 06, 2018, 03:36:22 pm
She is all heart, isn't she @Sanguine

I'm trying to be charitable, @Emjay.  It's very difficult in this case.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2018, 03:52:11 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on October 06, 2018, 03:24:37 pm
Mark my words, if Kav gets anything less than 51 votes he'll be hounded off the court by the Rats and their willing accomplices in the press.

There's no such thing as "hounding off the court."  He's confirmed, legally, and that's it.  They can whine and cry all they like, and claim that he's illegitimate, but their bogus claims don't matter.  Kavanaugh himself has demonstrated rather conclusively that he is not the kind of guy to let a bunch of shrill harridans chase him away.

Frankly, if they want to try to make noise that he's somehow illegitimate despite getting a majority of votes in the Senate, they'll just be further discrediting themselves.  And that works to our advantage.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2018, 03:57:08 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on October 06, 2018, 03:52:11 pm
There's no such thing as "hounding off the court."  He's confirmed, legally, and that's it.  They can whine and cry all they like, and claim that he's illegitimate, but their bogus claims don't matter.  Kavanaugh himself has demonstrated rather conclusively that he is not the kind of guy to let a bunch of shrill harridans chase him away.

Frankly, if they want to try to make noise that he's somehow illegitimate despite getting a majority of votes in the Senate, they'll just be further discrediting themselves.  And that works to our advantage.

The left is breaking new ground here.  "Hounding" may well happen.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2018, 04:03:04 pm »
Quote from: austingirl on October 06, 2018, 03:17:16 am
Next  week make sure to strip her of ALL of her committee assignments. Let her languish in oblivion.
That is the reason she will not vote no.

Mitch told her that she would no longer be chairman of the Natural Resources Committee, which gives her stature among Alaskans who depend upon oil and gas and benefit from her chairing that committee.

Isn't it disappointing and extremely telling that only 5 of the 23 women US Senators will be voting to confirm this Supreme Court Justice?
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2018, 04:05:15 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on October 06, 2018, 03:57:08 pm
The left is breaking new ground here.  "Hounding" may well happen.

My point exactly.

@Maj. Bill Martin, you are underestimating the power of the mob, aided by a willing press.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2018, 04:05:52 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on October 06, 2018, 03:57:08 pm
The left is breaking new ground here.  "Hounding" may well happen.

They just fired all their "hounding" ammo, and the result was Kavanaugh tearing them a new one in his testimony.  It backfired, and its going to keep backfiring if they make such a ridiculous argument against him.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2018, 04:05:57 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on October 06, 2018, 04:03:04 pm
That is the reason she will not vote no.

Mitch told her that she would no longer be chairman of the Natural Resources Committee, which gives her stature among Alaskans who depend upon oil and gas and benefit from her chairing that committee.

Isn't it disappointing and extremely telling that only 5 of the 23 women US Senators will be voting to confirm this Supreme Court Justice?

Did you somehow think that leftist Senators would vote to confirm Kavanaugh?
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2018, 04:20:24 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on October 06, 2018, 03:57:08 pm
The left is breaking new ground here.  "Hounding" may well happen.

I think we'll see something like "The Baader-Meinhof Gang"  happen here very soon.
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2018, 04:56:52 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on October 06, 2018, 04:20:24 pm
I think we'll see something like "The Baader-Meinhof Gang"  happen here very soon.

You mean like shooting congressmen at a softball game?
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Re: Lisa Murkowski to vote 'present' so Steve Daines doesn't have to leave daughter's wedding
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2018, 05:03:23 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on October 06, 2018, 04:56:52 pm
You mean like shooting congressmen at a softball game?

Or knifing Congressional candidates, yes.
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