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By Yours Truly
http://throneberryfields.com/2017/10/22/if-you-cant-beat-him-hire-him/

If Alex Cora ever needs to remind himself about determination, he has only to look at an at-bat he had
as a Dodger against the Cubs 12 May 2004
. On that date, at 9:23 Pacific time, in that at-bat, he graduated
from utilityman to mini-legend.

With Matt Clement on the mound, Cora looked at ball one up and away. Then it went: called strike. Ball two.
Foul. Foul. Foul. Foul. Foul. Foul. Foul. Foul. Foul. Foul. Foul. Foul. Foul. Foul. Two-run homer.

One of Cora’s Dodger teammates that night now manages the Dodgers. The man who managed the Cubs that
night, Dusty Baker, was uninvited to a contract renewal by the Nationals last Friday. Now Cora, this season’s
bench coach for the Astros, will become the new manager of the Red Sox—whom the Astros shoved out of this
year’s division series. Call it a case of if you can’t beat him, hire him.

You may or may not see a Red Sox hitter wear a pitcher down with fourteen consecutive fouls on 2-2 before
hitting one over the right field fence, but you may see the Red Sox filling in a few blanks, ironing out a few
kinks, and maybe even coming up with a few heretofore unexpected clubhouse leaders with Cora on the
bridge.

“He’s all about the competition and small advantages within the game,” says Astros manager A.J. Hinch.
“One of the brightest baseball intellects that I’ve ever been around. He challenges people. He challenges
me. He’s someone who’s all about winning.

“And to watch our players respond to him,” Hinch continued, “he’s got a lot of respect in that clubhouse
because of the work he puts in and the attention to detail that he brings. That’s why he’s the hottest
managerial candidate on the planet, and deservedly so.”

You won’t get any argument from Carlos Beltran, the Astros’ veteran designated hitter.

“Alex brings a lot to the table, my friend,” Beltran told ESPN’s Scott Lauber. “He’s a guy that always is
looking for information that he could use against the opposite team. He has good communication with
the guys, respects the guys. He’s always in the clubhouse getting to know the players, getting to know
which buttons he could push on each player to make them go out there and play the game hard, which
is great.”

Cora’s hard managing experience is limited to winter ball in his native Puerto Rico. That doesn’t seem
to faze the Red Sox, who signed Cora to a three-year deal. Nor should it.

The former utility infielder becomes the 22nd former Red Sox player to become their skipper and the
third youngest major league manager behind the Rays’ Kevin Cash and the Padres’ Andy Green. Cora
is also only a month older than retired star David Ortiz, his Red Sox teammate for four seasons.

Cora is said to like taking over a team who’s “ready-made to win,” the Red Sox having won back-to-
back American League Easts. Lauber says the Red Sox like the idea of Cora’s upbeat personality
dissipating the sour atmosphere in the Red Sox clubhouse in 2017.

An atmosphere in which veteran second baseman Dustin Pedroia probably exposed himself as less
than a true clubhouse leader; in which pitcher David Price’s idea of unifying the clubhouse was to
foster an us-versus-them attitude while starting a futile battle of wits with the overqualified Hall
of Famer turned broadcaster Dennis Eckersley; in which young stars like Mookie Betts, Xander
Bogaerts, and Jackie Bradley, Jr. seemed uncertain when or whether to step forward and begin
to lead.

But Cora is said to be close to Pedroia from their days as playing teammates. And his success
in navigating the Astros’ youthful core including Jose Altuve, George Springer, Alex Bregman,
and Carlos Correa probably helped convince Red Sox general manager Dave Dombrowski that
Cora was the Red Sox’s man as much as Hinch’s endorsement did.

So did Cora’s ability to work six parts analytical information and half a dozen parts relating to
players as men. “He came to us as a highly regarded candidate, and from speaking with him
throughout this process, we found him to be very knowledgeable, driven, and deserving of this
opportunity,” Dombrowski said.

Cora was a competent major league utility infielder, a student of the game even then, a better
man with the glove than his statistics bore out but who was probably hobbled by his inability to
settle at a single infield position. He was a near-classic little-things player who wasn’t destined
for the big moments but who was indispensable in his way to four postseason entrants and the
Red Sox’s 2007 World Series winner.

The Red Sox also interviewed both former Twins manager Ron Gardenhire and former Tigers manager
Brad Ausmus. The Nationals showed interest in Cora, too. Gardenhire ended up taking the Tigers’ job;
Boston Globe reporter Peter Abraham says Cora was the Red Sox’s first choice from the beginning of
their hunt. Perhaps especially after watching the Astros wipe them out of the division series almost
in a blink.

First, of course, Cora has a job to finish with the Astros. They’d love nothing more than to send him off
to his new job a World Series winner. And he won’t even have to foul off fourteen straight 2-2 pitches
before hitting a two-run homer to do it.
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They couldn't wait until the end of the series?

Not that Cora will be distracted........
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Hmmmm....wondering if they're going to play musical chairs, with Dusty Baker being 'odd man out' this round....with John Farrell coming to manage the NATIONALS??
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They couldn't wait until the end of the series?
If he was their first choice no matter what, it doesn't exactly harm anyone to say yes, they're
going to hire him. And, as it happens, wait until after the World Series to introduce him formally.
One of the worst kept secrets in baseball was that several teams had eyes on Cora as a manager-
in-waiting.

Not that Cora will be distracted........
I'd have to say a guy who fouls off fourteen straight on 2-2 before hitting a two-run homer isn't a guy
who's distracted easily.



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Let's be honest.

A blind man could have managed the NATIONALS to a NL East pennant.

Despite a third of a season with any semblance of a bullpen, and injuries to starters Adam Eaton and later, Bryce Harper...and even Rendon missing too many games, they won it by 20 games.  With 2 weeks to play.

IMO, the fault likes with giving these blanking prima donnas carte blanche on the mound and in the dugout.

Werth had no business on the postseason roster, his $21 million salary be damned.   They were cruising without him. 

And WTH?   was that a good way to treat Tanner Roark?   Roark, who steadily held up the rotation when a star went down, who won 15 games with a 3 something ERA?   

He wasn't supposed to be a 'good' as a Scherzer coming out of the bullpen for the 1st time in his life?

Okay 20/20 is hindsight.

But Kendrick deserved to be in the lineup. 

The Lerner family feels Dusty was NOT at all instrumental in the NATS' success this season.   I agree with them.
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Hmmmm....wondering if they're going to play musical chairs, with Dusty Baker being 'odd man out' this round....with John Farrell coming to manage the NATIONALS??
The word now is that Indians pitching coach Mickey Callaway is going to be the Mets' new
manager.

I'm not sure the Nats would want John Farrell after the way the Red Sox clubhouse was this
year. A manager who lets a star pitcher foster a combative atmosphere and doesn't demand
said pitcher's prompt apology for his way-out-of-line abuse of a Hall of Famer-turned-
broadcaster isn't the guy I'd want guiding a team who has a couple of key players going into
their walk years. Farrell could probably use a little time away from the dugout and the clubhouse
to regroup himself mentally and get back to the mindset he had when he detoxified the Red
Sox after the Bobby Valentine nightmare. Then I think you'll see him managing again.
Unless someone hires him as a pitching coach once more . . .
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DCP......

I have never considered Crusty Baker to be a top tier manager.  From his ruining of Prior and Wood, to his questionable clubhouse manner.

His exit may be the best thing to happen to you guys.
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And WTH?   was that a good way to treat Tanner Roark?   Roark, who steadily held up the rotation when a star went down, who won 15 games with a 3 something ERA?   
Actually, Roark was 13-11 with a 4.67 ERA and a 4.13 fielding-independent pitching rate in 2017. Max
Scherzer went 16-6 with a 2.51 ERA/2.90 FIP and he led the National League in walks and hits per
inning pitched with 0.90, plus he pitched six and a third innings of shutout ball starting Game Three.
(The run charged to him was burped up by Sammy Solis.) Whom would you pick out of the Game
Five bullpen with all hands except Stephen Strasburg on deck? (Who told Werth to misjudge what
became Addison Russell's two-run double or Matt Wieters to channel his inner Gary Sanchez behind
the dish?) I like Tanner Roark, but picking him over Scherzer in that moment was tantamount to
picking (this is a joke, son) Bob Priddy over Juan Marichal in a similar moment.


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Actually, Roark was 13-11 with a 4.67 ERA and a 4.13 fielding-independent pitching rate in 2017. Max
Scherzer went 16-6 with a 2.51 ERA/2.90 FIP and he led the National League in walks and hits per
inning pitched with 0.90, plus he pitched six and a third innings of shutout ball starting Game Three.
(The run charged to him was burped up by Sammy Solis.) Whom would you pick out of the Game
Five bullpen with all hands except Stephen Strasburg on deck? (Who told Werth to misjudge what
became Addison Russell's two-run double or Matt Wieters to channel his inner Gary Sanchez behind
the dish?) I like Tanner Roark, but picking him over Scherzer in that moment was tantamount to
picking (this is a joke, son) Bob Priddy over Juan Marichal in a similar moment.

LOL!  It's why I luv ya, @EasyAce ....despite your animosity for Mr. Trump.   

You are diplomatic...to a fault.  And, it's so much appreciated.   

Maybe I read that in the 2nd half he was on path to chart 15 wins.   I know he had a very rough couple of late starts.

But when he knows he only has to go thru the order once, he can pound the strike zone...Just like Jordan Zimmermann used to do before he took off for Detroit.

Instead....Dusty crapped on Roark's value to the team and his confidence and essentially let a superstar pitcher dictate the NATS' season.

That's the way I 'see' the Lerners seeing it.   It should have been a no-brainer stopping the CUBS.   You can go back and see where Werth was responsible for one loss.   And Harper too, overthrowing the cut-off man which allowed what became the winning run to reach 2nd.

They don't need a chaperone, grandfather figure.   They need somebody to keep the fire buring during a 4 day lay-off.
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LOL!  It's why I luv ya, @EasyAce ....despite your animosity for Mr. Trump.   

You are diplomatic...to a fault.  And, it's so much appreciated.
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Sssssh! That's our little secret!

Instead....Dusty crapped on Roark's value to the team and his confidence and essentially let a superstar pitcher dictate the NATS' season.
I will guarantee you that if Baker thought of anyone other than Scherzer in that moment, they would have
executed him on the spot. When your best pitcher is available in win-or-be-gone time and you don't
go to him---they still call it "if you're going to get beaten, you get beaten with your best"---you've
earned a stay at Bellevue.

I can give you a few more reasons why the Nats lost the division series:

* They're allergic to productive outs. The Cubs had four RBIs on such outs in Game Five. The Nats? Nada.

* The Cubs scored four runs on: a wild pitch, a passed ball, a hit batsman, and a misjudged line drive.

* The Nats drew nine walks but stranded thirteen runners.

* Ryan Zimmerman killed four rallies despite having four men in scoring position in those at-bats.

* If Baker made one drastic mistake, it was not turning to Roark---instead of Gio Gonzalez to start Game
Five.

The Nats got lucky that the Cubs stranded four of the baserunners they got with Gonzalez on the mound.
Sometimes forgotten is how shaky Gonzalez gets in deciding postseason games and how foolish the Nats
get in those games behind him. Remember Game Five in the 2012 division series? Staked to a 6-0 lead
after two innings, Gonzalez began pitching as if trying to throw three strikes a pitch, the Nats started
swinging the bats as if trying to hit six-run homers with each pitch, and the Cardinals were only too
happy to play patiently, whittle away at them, and finally hammer the coffin closed.

* Really, in Game Five this time, both the Cubs and the Nats played more like they were trying not to lose
than trying to win. I'm not sure the Cubs weren't playing that way against the Dodgers in the LCS, too.



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