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Sounds like Trump does.

Yeah....we could use a 'victory' right now.

Instead, I feel like I'm watching ROCKY...and he's being pummeled on the ropes.

...hoping he'll surprise us that he's a Southpaw or something.   :laugh:
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Missile launch? Really? From where? To where?

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Deployment, not launch; sorry.  My head is fogged up with a cold so I plead cotton brain.


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Deployment, not launch; sorry.  My head is fogged up with a cold so I plead cotton brain.

Hmmm...ironically, my lady friend was under the same impression.  She used the word "launch", too!   :laugh:
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Being the third person is an indication to me.  They need to thoroughly investigate the Trump Administration ties to Russia.

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It's not an unreasonable position to take.

Remember when Obama told Russia he would have more flexibility after his election?  I'm pretty sure a lot of the people trying to blow this off took a different view back then.

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We criticized Obama for spending his days drinking beer and watching ESPN. While Trump certainly has kept a fuller schedule than the Big Zero ever did, he's devoting way too much attention to his stupid Twitter account.  **nononono*

At one time, not so long ago, I would have agreed with you. I'm not so sure now. Might be the only way to get at the unfiltered facts!
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Deployment, not launch; sorry.  My head is fogged up with a cold so I plead cotton brain.

No problem. I think I heard some "commentators" using the word launch as they blabbered on.

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It's not an unreasonable position to take.

Remember when Obama told Russia he would have more flexibility after his election?  I'm pretty sure a lot of the people trying to blow this off took a different view back then.

I'll put you down as another one looking to pick a fight with Russia.

And do tell just what ties to Russia does Trump have that need an investigation? Please be specific. Or is this another "It is the seriousness of the allegations" not the evidence of wrong doing. In law there is the concept of "probable cause" without "probable cause" any investigation is nothing but a witch hunt. Witch hunts are what fascist police states do. Do you want us to become a fascist police state simply because you are unhappy with the election results?

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One thing we do know and can count on is the fact that the DEMS loathe President Trump.  We know that Soros has funded rioting in the streets and upheaval at Trump rallies.  We know that the DEMS have vowed to ensure that President Trump is not successful.  We do know that there is massive corruption in D.C. and that the Kingmakers were counting on Hillary.

I keep reflecting back on Romney's words that Russia was our biggest geopolitical foe yet Bammy sneered at him and chose to ignore that warning. Bammy did nothing when Putin declared Romania a threat. Between Putin and Bammy, it is Putin who is leading the charge on ISIS and Putin threw jabs at  Bammy during a UN speech on the subject of the U.S. missteps in Iraq and Libya, which he said fostered a power vacuum filled with “extremists and terrorists.”  Putin was right.  President Trump realizes the mistakes the past administration has made and stated in essence that he'd rather have Putin helping in the war against ISIS.  Meanwhile the left is never going to admit Bammy's mistakes, nor are they going to admit to the Benghazi scandal and arming Syrian rebels. They are still trying to save face and their seats.

Regardless of who President Trump appoints, the left is going to dig deep and even come up with fake news to stop the appointment.  This was made obvious with the appointment of Gorsuch.  The DEMS unanimously voted for him prior to his appointment as a justice to the SCOTUS, but because President Trump appointed him, now that aren't in favor of Gorsuch.

There is a war going on within our own government. We need to decide which side we're on. My vote is to stand with those that want to break up the Washington cartel.  No one said draining the swamp was going to be easy!

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The left's going to despise every Republican president.  We know this by now and we expect it.  The thing is for said chief executive to refrain from giving them ammunition they don't need to have.

It's foolish to believe Putin wants to eliminate ISIS.  Russia is an ally of Iran; Putin wants to enable Syria and other anti-American regimes in the region.  Besides, if Trump is such a strong leader, why does he want someone else to fight our battles? 

From The Daily Caller in October:

http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/10/russia-says-its-fighting-isis-in-syria-this-map-proves-its-not/

As for fake news, if we have a problem with it, we might want to see if we can get Trump to disinvite Gateway Pundit to press briefings.

Look, my concern is for the country, plain and simple.  I'm not playing with a team or on the side of a political party or a particular politician.  I'm a conservative and I see conservatism as the best way to fix what's right with the country.  So I'm not going to waste time defending Trump or anyone else when they screw up.

He needs to get his act together, get his people on the same page, and get down to the business of fulfilling his campaign promises.  That includes putting down his damn phone and leaving off with the manic tweets.  It hasn't even been a month, and this is already beginning to look like a trainwreck. 


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Maybe Flynn shouldn't talked to the Russians in the first place.
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Maybe Flynn shouldn't talked to the Russians in the first place.

Now that's just crazy talk. How can you expect a high ranked soldier who dealt with detailed intelligence briefings multiple times a day to know that the Russian Ambassador's phone is tapped?
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Now that's just crazy talk. How can you expect a high ranked soldier who dealt with detailed intelligence briefings multiple times a day to know that the Russian Ambassador's phone is tapped?

So the implication becomes that Flynn is as dumb as a bag of hammers???????

Actually, the point you make is more indicative that the original conversation was innocuous. The uproar is pure innuendo. The comm operation at the WH is obviously FUBAR.

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So the implication becomes that Flynn is as dumb as a bag of hammers???????

Actually, the point you make is more indicative that the original conversation was innocuous. The uproar is pure innuendo. The comm operation at the WH is obviously FUBAR.

They won't release the entire conversation transcript.  It's heavily edited.

Rush just said that it's the Obama Shadow Government trying to overthrow Trump,with the media's help...that's behind all of this.

He's not at all happy with Trump, that he so readily jettisoned Flynn.
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Now that's just crazy talk. How can you expect a high ranked soldier who dealt with detailed intelligence briefings multiple times a day to know that the Russian Ambassador's phone is tapped?

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He's not at all happy with Trump, that he so readily jettisoned Flynn.

I'm with Rush (and Levin) on this. The comm shop at the WH makes the Three Stooges look like master minds. If the ultimately had to go, so be it. But stop the free lancing before the cameras,

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Say what you will, but here goes:

Trump went on National TV before the Super Bowl to do the O'Reilly interview.
He basically said, "we have some bad people, too" when O'Reilly pointed out that the Russians were bad hombres.
O'Reilly even gave him a chance to modify his answer, and he didn't do it.
From the Cold War on, this would have been something a liberal would have said.

Since the Cold War, from Ike up until GHW Bush, Republicans, especially Conservatives, didn't put anything past the Russians.
The libs would run around saying we were paranoid, and "can't we all just get along?"

Romney comes along in 2012 and sees that Russia is back to being nefarious again, and Obama makes fun of him for it.

Flash forward to 2016/2017 and we've done a 180.
Libs are running around screaming about the Russian threat, and (some) Republicans are on the defensive, saying "so what, nothing to see here."

So what happened?

Just What is going on?

Like Obama with the Iranians, having been accused of everything from being naive to wanting to harm the USA, what is the truth here?

I won't accuse Trump of wrongdoing unless the facts bring that out, but I am a bit curious, for sure.

As a child of depression/WW2 era parents, I am finding it hard to stand with someone who will not stand up to aggressors, and Putin is definitely that.

What is Trump's point here?


 

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Say what you will, but here goes:

Trump went on National TV before the Super Bowl to do the O'Reilly interview.
He basically said, "we have some bad people, too" when O'Reilly pointed out that the Russians were bad hombres.
O'Reilly even gave him a chance to modify his answer, and he didn't do it.
From the Cold War on, this would have been something a liberal would have said.

Since the Cold War, from Ike up until GHW Bush, Republicans, especially Conservatives, didn't put anything past the Russians.
The libs would run around saying we were paranoid, and "can't we all just get along?"

Romney comes along in 2012 and sees that Russia is back to being nefarious again, and Obama makes fun of him for it.

Flash forward to 2016/2017 and we've done a 180.
Libs are running around screaming about the Russian threat, and (some) Republicans are on the defensive, saying "so what, nothing to see here."

So what happened?

Just What is going on?

Like Obama with the Iranians, having been accused of everything from being naive to wanting to harm the USA, what is the truth here?

I won't accuse Trump of wrongdoing unless the facts bring that out, but I am a bit curious, for sure.

As a child of depression/WW2 era parents, I am finding it hard to stand with someone who will not stand up to aggressors, and Putin is definitely that.

What is Trump's point here?


 

@GrouchoTex good points, and good questions.  I would like to know as well. 

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For putting the Flynn thing is context!

Susan Rice goes on TV and LIES to your face five times in one day!

http://www.dcstatesman.com/flashback-susan-rice-lies-benghazi-refuses-resign/
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Another genius comeback from our resident bright boys.

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When have you ever posted any original thinking here?

If you have I haven't seen it yet.

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I'll put you down as another one looking to pick a fight with Russia.

You might want to check out that Russian sub sitting 30 miles away from a Connecticut Navy base, and the Russian missiles that were deployed, if you're concerned about someone trying to pick a fight.  Putin is testing Trump, and all of Donald's tough talk is nowhere to be seen now.

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And do tell just what ties to Russia does Trump have that need an investigation? Please be specific. Or is this another "It is the seriousness of the allegations" not the evidence of wrong doing. In law there is the concept of "probable cause" without "probable cause" any investigation is nothing but a witch hunt. Witch hunts are what fascist police states do. Do you want us to become a fascist police state simply because you are unhappy with the election results?

Do you think it's odd that this is the third Trump person with close ties to Russia?  Let's see if evidence comes out.  It might not.  But if it does, what do you think would be your reaction?

"Unhappy with the election results"

In other words, I wish Hillary had been the winner?  Don't try that garbage with me, please.


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Tom Winter ‏@Tom_Winter  7h7 hours ago
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 NBC's Pete Williams reports (as we have all along) that investigators have found no collusion between Trump campaign and contacts in Russia.

Modified to include this:

Philip Rucker ‏@PhilipRucker  22h22 hours ago
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 CNN says they have names of Trump campaign officials who communicated with Russian operatives. Not releasing yet because seeking comment.


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