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Re: Neil Gorsuch: A Worthy Heir to Scalia
« Reply #75 on: February 01, 2017, 04:20:04 pm »
You've got Gorsuch moved too far to the right.  Actually he shouldn't be on that chart until he's actually been a part of some rulings from his new position.

It's just wishful thinking on your part at this point.

The graphic is also racist. They have Thomas in the back of the bus on that seating chart. Outrageous.

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Re: Neil Gorsuch: A Worthy Heir to Scalia
« Reply #76 on: February 01, 2017, 04:22:03 pm »
The graphic is also racist. They have Thomas in the back of the bus on that seating chart. Outrageous.

Justice Hugo Black's revenge maybe?
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« Reply #77 on: February 01, 2017, 04:26:27 pm »
Perhaps true, but the image is not an @endicom creation.  It is a re-post.


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Re: Neil Gorsuch: A Worthy Heir to Scalia
« Reply #78 on: February 01, 2017, 04:30:11 pm »
The guy who made that chart doesn't appear to have any qualifications at all to make his opinion worth anything on that issue.  But, I did click on the link and look at his Twitter feed, and saw this:

"The current political tension is because all the things that were left unsaid are now being said, the between the lines now in the open."

I think that's completely true.


Fernandez (Belmont Club) has long been popular for his presenting of ideas. He's conservative and his own man.

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Re: Neil Gorsuch: A Worthy Heir to Scalia
« Reply #79 on: February 01, 2017, 04:43:42 pm »
Wait...the chart was courtesy of the NY Times...isn't this were we are supposed to shout "FAKE NEWS" from the rooftops?
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« Reply #80 on: February 01, 2017, 04:45:09 pm »

Fernandez (Belmont Club) has long been popular for his presenting of ideas. He's conservative and his own man.

He may be.  But he still doesn't seem to have the legal background necessary to make an accurate determination as to where Gorsuch should fit on that spectrum.  To do that fairly takes a lot of reading, and a good legal background.  If he was referencing links to the Volokh Conspiracy, or some other respected legal blogs, then fine.  But that wasn't apparent from the link.

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Re: Neil Gorsuch: A Worthy Heir to Scalia
« Reply #81 on: February 01, 2017, 09:25:05 pm »
@SZonian

Cruz supported Roberts' nomination once it was made, but he says he would have nominated his former boss, Mike Luttig, if he'd had the choice.

Either way, I don't expect Ted to be perfect.  And considering the meaning of "boi", I certainly would not apply that derogatory term to him.
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I was playing a bit of devil's advocate about folks and their penchant for placing too much trust into one person's opinion of someone. 

I suppose my skepticism of things and especially people got the better of me.

And I apologize for the use of "boi" with regards to Ted Cruz. 

He is, after all, why I am here vs. TOS as recent threads and comments over there about him will attest.
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Re: Neil Gorsuch: A Worthy Heir to Scalia
« Reply #82 on: February 01, 2017, 09:27:03 pm »
Knock it off Arnie...seriously.

Election is over...find some new taunts.

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Re: Neil Gorsuch: A Worthy Heir to Scalia
« Reply #83 on: February 02, 2017, 01:48:54 am »
@CatherineofAragon @Frank Cannon@libertybele

I was playing a bit of devil's advocate about folks and their penchant for placing too much trust into one person's opinion of someone. 

I suppose my skepticism of things and especially people got the better of me.

And I apologize for the use of "boi" with regards to Ted Cruz. 

He is, after all, why I am here vs. TOS as recent threads and comments over there about him will attest.

@SZonian, I apologize for jumping on you.  I'm very sorry.

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Re: Neil Gorsuch: A Worthy Heir to Scalia
« Reply #84 on: February 02, 2017, 03:56:39 am »
@CatherineofAragon @Frank Cannon@libertybele

I was playing a bit of devil's advocate about folks and their penchant for placing too much trust into one person's opinion of someone. 

I suppose my skepticism of things and especially people got the better of me.

And I apologize for the use of "boi" with regards to Ted Cruz. 

He is, after all, why I am here vs. TOS as recent threads and comments over there about him will attest.

It is sometimes better to trust the opinion of someone with more knowledge rather than to form an ill-informed opinion of your own.

Truly understanding a guy like Gorsuch would require reading almost everything he's written, his speeches, etc., as well as having a decent understanding of jurisprudential techniques, schools of thought, etc..  That is basically impossible for most of us.  However, there are things like the Federalist Society, which is easily the most respected, pre-eminent association of conservative legal thinkers in the country.  There are also outstanding conservative lawyers who have read many of his opinions, heard him speak, etc..  Again, that is not knowledge that most of us are in a position to recreate on our own.

So, relying on the opinions of strong conservatives with much more knowledge than we have is really the best most of us can do.  Sure, we can read a few articles, etc., but unless we're reading the actual opinions, and maybe even getting more educated on the facts or issues raised in the lower court, trusting a few blurbs in a critical article as being a fair or accurate representation of his views is dangerous.

I've had two cases in front of him, and personally heard him speak in April of this year.  That's not enough for me to give a guarantee on how he will rule, though it did tell me he is ridiculously intelligent and at least professes to a strong belief in textualism, which is a major positive.  But nobody can ever be absolutely sure about how someone will rule on the Court -- sometimes the views of the justices themselves evolve.  Generally, though, the people vouching for him are essentially a who's who of conservative legal thought and scholarship.  It's not really possible to do much better than that, because someone can find some wart on every single potential nominee.
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Re: Neil Gorsuch: A Worthy Heir to Scalia
« Reply #85 on: February 02, 2017, 04:02:52 am »
@SZonian, I apologize for jumping on you.  I'm very sorry.
No worries... :beer:
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