Ryan challenger Nehlen says Trump's Muslim ban cannot be implemented, so we should discuss total Muslim deportation

[don-o]

I listened until he started quoting "...a Free Republic poll..." and stopped right there.

This guy is clearly nuttier than the porta-potty at a Peanut Festival.

Moving on.

 

Just rolling the vid. He REALLY says that??? 

[catfish1957]

My position on islam and muslims is well-known here.

I wish I could have the pleasure of casting a vote for Mr. Nehlen.

I support a ban on new Muslims, but I would like for you to go on record and say that peaceful Muslims whose families have been here 150 years need to be deported.

[kevindavis007]

My position on islam and muslims is well-known here.

I wish I could have the pleasure of casting a vote for Mr. Nehlen.

So you are OK with deporting American citizens who just happened to be Muslim as well?

[unknown]

You really think deporting someone on what God they believe in is constitutional?

Take this is two parts:
1) For immigrants, immigrants are not citizens; so where the constitution applies to citizens it does not apply to immigrants. Any immigrant that exposes themselves as actively engaging the subversion of the constitution and the United States, then they should be imprisoned or deported.
2) When a citizen or groups actively show that they are subverting the constitution and the United States (and are starting to create violence), then that individual or group exposes themselves to imprisonment.

Sharia Law definitely goes against the Constitution. Khizr Khan has written extensively on Sharia Law and its authority over all other forms of law. While that alone does not incite violence and overthrow, it exposes him as a possible problem. I don't believe this can be worked out completely on this forum. But this is an issue.

[catfish1957]

Take this is two parts:
1) For immigrants, immigrants are not citizens; so where the constitution applies to citizens it does not apply to immigrants. Any immigrant that exposes themselves as actively engaging the subversion of the constitution and the United States, then they should be imprisoned or departed.
2) When someone or groups actively show that they are subverting the constitution and the United States (and are starting to create violence), then that individual or group exposes themselves to imprisonment.

Sharia Law definitely goes against the Constitution. Khizr Khan has written extensively on Sharia Law and its authority over all other forms of law. While that alone does not incite violence and overthrow, it exposes him as a possible problem. I don't believe this can be worked out completely on this forum. But this is an issue.

That's a lot different than total Muslim deportation, which seems to be his statement.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Take this is two parts:
1) For immigrants, immigrants are not citizens

Let's start there. Some immigrants are citizens. I'm not sure of the numbers, but many apply to become citizens. So what are you proposing for them?

[unknown]

Let's start there. Some immigrants are citizens. I'm not sure of the numbers, but many apply to become citizens. So what are you proposing for them?

If they are not citizens then they get treated as such.

If they become citizens then they get treated as such, they are no longer considered immigrants under the law. I think you are trying to create a gray area where one doesn't exist, a "citizen immigrant." I don't see this anywhere else except your comment above.

Part of this discussion in this country right now is where many people have said that the constitution applies to immigrants. That is not true. In this thread there is a discussion regarding where the Federal Statute says that a Religious test can apply. http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,219142.0.html

Under federal law, the executive branch is expressly required to take religion into account in determining who is granted asylum. Under the provision governing asylum (section 1158 of Title 8, U.S. Code),

[Cripplecreek]

The thought of deporting someone who happens to be a Muslim. What about American citizens who are Muslim? Deport them to?

Yup, like it or not a lot of those muslims are citizens of the USA and in many cases 3rd 4th and 5th generation citizens. Its no different than the nazis deporting Jewish citizens.

[Cripplecreek]

I support a ban on new Muslims, but I would like for you to go on record and say that peaceful Muslims whose families have been here 150 years need to be deported.

The real issue here is assimilation. America has always encouraged assimilation but we don't do that any more. In fact, the left actively opposes assimilation.

[LottieDah]

That guy is more insane than Trump, apparently

Agreed.  That may be the reason Sarah Palin supports both Trump and Nehlen -- they are both insane.  It doesn't say much for her judgement.

[GrouchoTex]

What part is unconstitutional?

I they were born in the USA, or went through the naturalization process, you can't deport them based on their religion (or, even, lack thereof).
They would have the same 1st amendment protection you and I have.
The best you could hope for, is what Carter did (of all people) and what Cruz proposed, and what Trump has hinted towards lately.
Ban people coming in from countries with known hostilities towards the USA.
Can't ban them if they are already citizens.
If you could, every flag burner would kicked out.
It is unconstitutional to do so.
Imagine if the next President or congress member decided that we had to get rid of all the Christians, or all the Jews?

[kevindavis007]

I they were born in the USA, or went through the naturalization process, you can't deport them based on their religion (or, even, lack thereof).
They would have the same 1st amendment protection you and I have.
The best you could hope for, is what Carter did (of all people) and what Cruz proposed, and what Trump has hinted towards lately.
Ban people coming in from countries with known hostilities towards the USA.
Can't ban them if they are already citizens.
If you could, every flag burner would kicked out.
It is unconstitutional to do so.
Imagine if the next President or congress member decided that we had to get rid of all the Christians, or all the Jews?

Hell some people would like to get rid of the Mormons..

[GrouchoTex]

Hell some people would like to get rid of the Mormons..

Oh yeah, I remember 2012....

[kevindavis007]

Oh yeah, I remember 2012....

Yep.....  The Constitution is a suicide pact.