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SOURCE: HOTAIR.COM

URL: http://hotair.com/archives/2016/07/28/suffolk-poll-shows-trump-trailing-by-9-in-pa/

by: Ed Morrissey



Up to now, Republicans had some reason for optimism in Pennsylvania, although not necessarily in the presidential election. Only one poll this year showed Donald Trump in the lead in the Keystone State, a Quinnipiac poll from mid-July. However, two out of three recent polls showed incumbent US Senator Pat Toomey with a lead over Democrat Katie McGinty, in one Q-poll by ten points.

Today, though, Suffolk University’s new poll casts a considerable pall on GOP hopes in Pennsylvania for both races:

   
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Just hours before Democrat Hillary Clinton is set to make history in Philadelphia as the first woman to accept her party’s U.S. presidential nomination, a new Suffolk University poll of likely general-election voters in Pennsylvania shows Clinton with a commanding lead over Republican Donald Trump. In a two-way matchup, she led Trump 50 percent to 41 percent, with 8 percent undecided.

    Pennsylvania has voted Democratic in the past six presidential elections, going back to Bill Clinton’s first win in 1992. Yet it is a rust belt state that could be in play, as indicated by recent general-election polling showing a close race.

    In a four-way scenario, with Green Party nominee Jill Stein and Libertarian Gary Johnson added into the mix, Clinton led Trump 46 percent to 37 percent, with Libertarian Gary Johnson at 5 percent, Green Party nominee Jill Stein receiving 3 percent, and 9 percent undecided.

    “Hillary Clinton is flirting with fifty thanks to Philly,” said David Paleologos, director of the Suffolk University Research Center in Boston. “At this point Clinton’s large lead in the Philadelphia area is offsetting losses to Trump in other parts of the state. She also is amassing the support of women and thus drowning out Trump’s marginal lead among men.”

It’s not looking good for Pat Toomey, either:

   
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In Pennsylvania’s U.S. Senate contest, Democrat Katie McGinty (43 percent) led incumbent U.S. Sen. Pat Toomey (36 percent), with a considerably high 20 percent still undecided or refused.

The demographics in the binary presidential contest do not look at all encouraging. Trump only scores a 48/44 lead among men, and trails 35/56 among women. Among white voters — Trump’s strong suit in the Rust Belt — he only scores 48/42, not even getting to a majority.  Hillary wins among independents 46/41, and non-whites 80/14. Trump does well in the western part of Pennsylvania, 55/38, but only gets to 48/41 in the central part and trails 24/72 in Philadelphia.

Could this be an outlier? Possibly, although the latest Marist poll for the NBC/Wall Street Journal series showed similar results. In that poll released two weeks ago, Toomey trailed McGinty by three points, while Hillary led by an identical nine-point gap, only with the numbers at 45/36 rather than 50/41. For those who tend to look at sample composition, the split was D+9 at 48/39.4 on a sample of 500; 2012 turnout was 45/35 Democrat, while the 2014 midterm turnout was 40/38 Democrat. At the least, it’s within range of reasonable.

More concerning is the timing of these results. The survey period started three days after the end of the Republican convention, into the disastrous start of the Democratic convention. One would have expected to see a Trump bounce in that period. Instead, Suffolk’s data strongly suggests that the convention in Cleveland failed to move the needle at all in Pennsylvania, a state on which Trump has staked his campaign-strategy credibility. If it’s an outlier, we should see markedly different results from pollsters other than Suffolk and Marist soon … or at least Republicans hope.

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That is very anchor on down ballot races

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I live in PA and anyone who thinks that Trump has a chance in hell is smoking crack. All the major cities like Pitt, Philthy, Harrisburg, Scranton/Wilkes Barre, the ABE area is populated with Rat drone welfare junkies and there isn't enough people in the suburbs to counter that.

Toomey had half a shot here but he went all left on gun grabbing with Manchin and now has Trump around his neck. It sucks because McGinty is a POS.

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I live in Pennsylvania.  I don't think this poll is very representative of the current state of the electorate here.  Toomey is in a tight race, but he is probably not behind at this point. 

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I live in Pennsylvania.  I don't think this poll is very representative of the current state of the electorate here.  Toomey is in a tight race, but he is probably not behind at this point.

I don;t know where you live, but do you see any Trump stickers on cars? By this time in an election cycle there is a fair amount of propaganda festooned on rear windows. I see nothing and I live in a fairly metropolitan area. As a matter of fact all I see are Bernie stickers.

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I don;t know where you live, but do you see any Trump stickers on cars? By this time in an election cycle there is a fair amount of propaganda festooned on rear windows. I see nothing and I live in a fairly metropolitan area. As a matter of fact all I see are Bernie stickers.

I live in Lancaster County and saw the first Trump sticker on a car just yesterday.  Among the guys in my golf club, there is not much enthusiasm for Trump except among a minority, and the guys in that minority are mad for the guy.  Most seemed resigned to having to vote for him.

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I live in Lancaster County and saw the first Trump sticker on a car just yesterday.  Among the guys in my golf club, there is not much enthusiasm for Trump except among a minority, and the guys in that minority are mad for the guy.  Most seemed resigned to having to vote for him.

Same boat here. I up in the Allentown suburbs and all the reliably right wing folks I know are less than excited.....and some of these folks were genuinely enthusiastic about Dole.

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I live in Pennsylvania.  I don't think this poll is very representative of the current state of the electorate here.  Toomey is in a tight race, but he is probably not behind at this point.
I'm suspecting this is an outlier as well. Not that I think Trump will win—after all, he'd have to do something no Republican has done since GHWB at this point—but if it's showing Toomey 7 points down when all the other polls show him still up AND with the power of incumbency, there's something a bit fishy.

The lead among men also looks suspiciously small.
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Toomey is in a tight race, but he is probably not behind at this point.

Give Trump a chance to tweet a few more times.
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Could be an outlier, but I just saw another poll with trump getting a whopping 1% of the African American vote in Missouri (which is better than the 0% he gets in some states if that is even possible).

Trump is not going to win PA.  That's a pipe dream by Trump supporters.
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I live in Lancaster County and saw the first Trump sticker on a car just yesterday.  Among the guys in my golf club, there is not much enthusiasm for Trump except among a minority, and the guys in that minority are mad for the guy.  Most seemed resigned to having to vote for him.

I see a surprising amount of support for him in Massachusetts of all places. Of course, we voted heavily for Trump (although I didn't).

But I see pro-Trump signs in Boston even. Be nice to turn that place red.