Author Topic: Jeff Sessions: Trump Isn’t ‘Banning All Muslims’ or ‘Saying Muslims Can’t Enter,’ But a ‘Pause’ ‘Based On the Nations That They Come From’  (Read 1180 times)

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by Ian Hanchett15 Jun 2016

Sessions said, “I believe people have misread, though, what he’s saying. He’s not banning all Muslims, not saying Muslims can’t enter into America. he’s saying we have a problem. there’s a radical element there, that is threatening a safety of america, and if i’m given the power, as president, we’re going to have a pause, and we’re going to figure out what’s going on, and improve it. and i think if our people would listen to that full message, they’d feel a lot better about it.”

Sessions added that Trump supports “a temporary pause on immigration until we’ve developed some good policies to –” after host Erin Burnett cut in, “Based on religion.” Sessions stated, “Based on the nations that they come from.”

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/06/15/jeff-sessions-trump-isnt-banning-all-muslims-or-saying-muslims-cant-enter-but-a-pause-based-on-the-nations-that-they-come-from/

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Funny how what Trump says practically always requires a translator to tell us what he really said... Why is that? And why on earth do people believe such a person should lead the US in such difficult times?

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Funny how what Trump says practically always requires a translator to tell us what he really said... Why is that? And why on earth do people believe such a person should lead the US in such difficult times?

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That's an easy one.

For the same reason SO MANY PEOPLE SLAM DUNKED Jeb Bush, John Kasich, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Chris Christie, Carly Fiorina, Rick Santorum, Ran Paul, Jim Gilmore, Ben Carson, and Mike Huckabee.

Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell's terror reigns are coming to an end soon also.

Any more questions?

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by Ian Hanchett15 Jun 2016

Sessions said, “I believe people have misread, though, what he’s saying. He’s not banning all Muslims, not saying Muslims can’t enter into America. he’s saying we have a problem. there’s a radical element there, that is threatening a safety of america, and if i’m given the power, as president, we’re going to have a pause, and we’re going to figure out what’s going on, and improve it. and i think if our people would listen to that full message, they’d feel a lot better about it.”

Sessions added that Trump supports “a temporary pause on immigration until we’ve developed some good policies to –” after host Erin Burnett cut in, “Based on religion.” Sessions stated, “Based on the nations that they come from.”

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/06/15/jeff-sessions-trump-isnt-banning-all-muslims-or-saying-muslims-cant-enter-but-a-pause-based-on-the-nations-that-they-come-from/

I would point out that this is a radical change from his first position calling for a complete and total ban on Muslims from entering the country.  Second, banning immigration only would do nothing to prevent any of the recent terrorist attacks, all of which were either performed by a U.S. citizen or, as in the case of the 9/11 crew, were here on visas.  Third, I would assume his ban would have to include France and Belgium since their latest terror acts were committed by homegrown terrorists and by Sessions own statements would mean no immigration from France or Belgium for any reason?  Finally, or if not everyone then how would he identify Muslims from non-Muslims?

And as a postscript I would add that Sessions might as well shut the heck up because there is nothing that he can say to try and clarify Trump's remarks that will make them sound any more effective or even remotely rational.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2016, 01:07:50 pm by RedHead »

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.../ Second, banning immigration only would do nothing to prevent any of the recent terrorist attacks.../

Actually, a thorough vetting process would have identified the shooter's father as an active and radical Taliban leader.

Then we would have had a decision to make based on all of the facts. 


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Funny how what Trump says practically always requires a translator to tell us what he really said... Why is that? And why on earth do people believe such a person should lead the US in such difficult times?

Like a toddler throwing his food on the floor, the adults always have to come in and clean up the mess.

This always happens.  So, why is the toddler the nominee?
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Funny how what Trump says practically always requires a translator to tell us what he really said...

Actually, Sessions is quoting Trump here.  This is something Trump has said repeatedly in interviews and at his rallies.

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Actually, a thorough vetting process would have identified the shooter's father as an active and radical Taliban leader.

Then we would have had a decision to make based on all of the facts.

Uh, the US was fighting on the side of the Taliban in 1980 when the father and mother immigrated.  Russia had invaded Afghanistan.

He was not considered "radical" then and we were welcoming Afghan immigrants all through the Reagan administration.

Those are the facts.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Actually, a thorough vetting process would have identified the shooter's father as an active and radical Taliban leader.

Then we would have had a decision to make based on all of the facts.

Well it's a shame that the FBI doesn't have someone of your talent running things then. 

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by Ian Hanchett15 Jun 2016

Sessions said, “I believe people have misread, though, what he’s saying. He’s not banning all Muslims, not saying Muslims can’t enter into America. he’s saying we have a problem. there’s a radical element there, that is threatening a safety of america, and if i’m given the power, as president, we’re going to have a pause, and we’re going to figure out what’s going on, and improve it. and i think if our people would listen to that full message, they’d feel a lot better about it.”

Sessions added that Trump supports “a temporary pause on immigration until we’ve developed some good policies to –” after host Erin Burnett cut in, “Based on religion.” Sessions stated, “Based on the nations that they come from.”

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/06/15/jeff-sessions-trump-isnt-banning-all-muslims-or-saying-muslims-cant-enter-but-a-pause-based-on-the-nations-that-they-come-from/

From respected seasoned conservative to Orange Hand Puppet in one lesson and six months. 
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Uh, the US was fighting on the side of the Taliban in 1980 when the father and mother immigrated.  Russia had invaded Afghanistan.

He was not considered "radical" then and we were welcoming Afghan immigrants all through the Reagan administration.

Those are the facts.

Then he would have been allowed in and it would have been up to the FBI to keep track of the shooter--once identified as a potential threat. 

But this doesn't mean we don't go forward with implementing a thorough, lengthy vetting process based on known 21st century threats.  Not to do so is beyond foolish.


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Well it's a shame that the FBI doesn't have someone of your talent running things then.

Sarcasm noted.

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I would point out that this is a radical change from his first position calling for a complete and total ban on Muslims from entering the country.  Second, banning immigration only would do nothing to prevent any of the recent terrorist attacks, all of which were either performed by a U.S. citizen or, as in the case of the 9/11 crew, were here on visas.  Fourth, I would assume his ban would have to include France and Belgium since their latest terror acts were committed by homegrown terrorists.  Finally, how would he identify Muslims from non-Muslims.

Ad as a postscript I would add that Sessions might as well shut the heck up because there is nothing that he can say to try and clarify Trump's remarks that will make them sound any more effective or even remotely rational.

I am not a Trump supporter and he has flipped on just about every issue including this one.  He is accused of being outlandish on some of his statements and ideals and in turn tones it down.  This issue is no different. However, in this particular case, Trump NEVER stated the word "ban".  He used the term "suspend".  Huge difference.  It is the liberal media and the gun control nuts putting their usual spin on things.  I agree with Trump on this issue 100%.  Your references to "ban" are incorrect.  Secondly, he clearly stated he would "suspend" immigration into this country from regions of known terrorists.  To allow immigration into this country that harbor known terrorists who have stated that they hate us and want to destroy us is absolute lunacy.  There is nothing rational about doing so.  Most importantly were his comments regarding "until we can figure this out" so irrational?  What is wrong with getting a handle on immigration policy, especially from an area of known terrorists??? It is needed and necessary. Your statement "banning immigration only would do nothing to prevent any of the recent terrorist attacks", I see as a very weak point.  Had immigration from that region of the world been curtailed long ago perhaps 9/11 could have been avoided.  Could have, should have would have. The time to do something IS NOW.  We have to start somewhere.  Certainly our current immigration policies aren't working.  They are getting us killed! 
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Funny how what Trump says practically always requires a translator to tell us what he really said... Why is that? And why on earth do people believe such a person should lead the US in such difficult times?

Because you have to become a full-fledged member of the Trump cult before they'll give you the secret decoder ring that will let you gaze on the revealed truth that is The Word of Trump. 

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Because you have to become a full-fledged member of the Trump cult before they'll give you the secret decoder ring that will let you gaze on the revealed truth that is The Word of Trump.
Or you could actually listen t what he says when he says it. The vast majority of the Trump hit pieces are dishonest either changing what Trump said, taking what he said out of context or outright lying about what he said.

With respect to this one he has said exactly what Sessions said clearly multiple times and its in the videos posted on here. Normal people have no problem hearing what Trump said as it was not focus-group-approved lawyer-speak for 8th graders.
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Or you could actually listen t what he says when he says it. The vast majority of the Trump hit pieces are dishonest either changing what Trump said, taking what he said out of context or outright lying about what he said.

With respect to this one he has said exactly what Sessions said clearly multiple times and its in the videos posted on here. Normal people have no problem hearing what Trump said as it was not focus-group-approved lawyer-speak for 8th graders.

Trump didn't clarify or specify, he made a blanket statement. If he hadn't, Sessions wouldn't have had to come out and spin it.  Put down the decoder ring and the koolaid sometime. 

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Trump didn't clarify or specify, he made a blanket statement. If he hadn't, Sessions wouldn't have had to come out and spin it.  Put down the decoder ring and the koolaid sometime.
Like I said, its in the videos posted here and its exactly what Sessions said. The ones twisting it saying its not clear are dishonest.
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Like I said, its in the videos posted here and its exactly what Sessions said. The ones twisting it saying its not clear are dishonest.


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http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/13/donald-trump-renews-muslim-ban-will-suspend-immigration-areas-history-terrorism/

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“I called for a ban after San Bernardino, and was met with great scorn and anger but now, many are saying I was right to do so — and although the pause is temporary, we must find out what is going on. The ban will be lifted when we as a nation are in a position to properly and perfectly screen those people coming into our country,” Trump explained during his speech addressing the terrorist attack in Orlando, Florida that killed roughly 50 people.

    The immigration laws of the United States give the President the power to suspend entry into the country of any class of persons that the President deems detrimental to the interests or security of the United States, as he deems appropriate.

    I will use this power to protect the American people. When I am elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world when there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies, until we understand how to end these threats.

“After a full, impartial and long overdue security assessment, we will develop a responsible immigration policy that serves the interests and values of America,” he added. “We cannot continue to allow thousands upon thousands of people to pour into our country, many of whom have the same thought process as this savage killer.”

no decoder ring necessary.
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Good luck.  Ted Cruz introduced this bill on the floor of the Senate at the time of the attacks in Paris and it went nowhere.

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Good luck.  Ted Cruz introduced this bill on the floor of the Senate at the time of the attacks in Paris and it went nowhere.

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That is back tracked to exactly THREE PEOPLE: 

#1 - Barack Obama

#2 - John Boehner

#3 - Mitch McConnell