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Offline AnybodyButaDem

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Re: Donald Trump Jr: Ted Cruz has to bribe delegates to win
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2016, 02:45:13 am »
Cruz is doing quite well in the conventions which is why Trump and most of his supporters are crying like babies instead of admitting Trump's ineptitude at the conventions so far.  Trump has done well at selling 30-45% of primary voters and will be rewarded for that on the 1st ballot.

Yeah, and it will lead to a massive landslide for Hillary as Cruz continues to go against the will of GOP voters and makes many sit at home. 

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/24/cbs-polls-trump-leads-by-five-in-indiana-by-23-in-pennsylvania/

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Cruz’s delegate operation in Pennsylvania isn’t as dominant as it’s been in other states (there are actually fewer pro-Cruz candidates running for delegate than there are pro-Trump ones) and dozens of delegate candidates say they’ll back whoever wins the popular vote in their district, which is likely to be Trump in most or all cases. There’s nothing holding them to that promise, but the bigger Trump’s landslide in Pennsylvania is, the more public pressure there’ll be on the Pennsylvania delegation to stick with Trump in Cleveland. In fact, per CBS/YouGov, 68 percent of Pennsylvania Republicans say delegates should back the statewide winner. That’s a big deal given how close he’s likely to be to 1,237 when the convention begins. If you’re a Trumper, the numbers in today’s poll are exactly what you want to see to make Pennsylvania’s delegates think twice about backing Cruz.
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Re: Donald Trump Jr: Ted Cruz has to bribe delegates to win
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2016, 02:46:04 am »
Do you think a system where a presidential candidate gets less than 50% of the delegates in a state, yet 100% of the electoral votes, is reflective of the will of the voter?

What do delegates have to do with electoral votes?  You're drinkin' some bad whiskey, man.
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Re: Donald Trump Jr: Ted Cruz has to bribe delegates to win
« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2016, 02:48:57 am »
What do delegates have to do with electoral votes?  You're drinkin' some bad whiskey, man.

I edited it and ALMOST said that's what you would jump on, since you can't argue the substance of the post.

Check your PM, by the way.  I did predict your "drinking" slam, as you will see.   :silly:
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Re: Donald Trump Jr: Ted Cruz has to bribe delegates to win
« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2016, 02:50:23 am »
What do delegates have to do with electoral votes?  You're drinkin' some bad whiskey, man.

What's funny is that with the time stamp, I edited my mistake before you posted your predictable non-substantive insult. 
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Re: Donald Trump Jr: Ted Cruz has to bribe delegates to win
« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2016, 02:56:30 am »
Yeah, and it will lead to a massive landslide for Hillary as Cruz continues to go against the will of GOP voters and makes many sit at home. 
The will of the GOP voters is determined by who gets the majority(1237) at the National Convention. 

Trump's nomination may lead to a Hillary landslide over Trump anyway if he can't improve on his record unfavorability numbers.
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Re: Donald Trump Jr: Ted Cruz has to bribe delegates to win
« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2016, 03:09:27 am »
The will of the GOP voters is determined by who gets the majority(1237) at the National Convention. 

I don't think you understand the difference between "will of the voters" and "will of the delegates."

Unless you think the only vote that counts is that of a delegate?
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Re: Donald Trump Jr: Ted Cruz has to bribe delegates to win
« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2016, 03:44:34 am »
I don't think you understand the difference between "will of the voters" and "will of the delegates."

Unless you think the only vote that counts is that of a delegate?

The delegate count is bound to  the outcome of the state vote on the 1st ballot and even the 2nd ballot for some.

If no candidate has a majority, then they will vote until someone does.  That is the process in place to reflect the will of the republican voters.
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Re: Donald Trump Jr: Ted Cruz has to bribe delegates to win
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2016, 04:34:42 am »
Cruz is doing quite well in the conventions which is why Trump and most of his supporters are crying like babies instead of admitting Trump's ineptitude at the conventions so far.  Trump has done well at selling 30-45% of primary voters and will be rewarded for that on the 1st ballot.

So every candidate is incompetent, but the one with the most delegates is the most competent.

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Re: Donald Trump Jr: Ted Cruz has to bribe delegates to win
« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2016, 01:24:29 pm »
The delegate count is bound to  the outcome of the state vote on the 1st ballot and even the 2nd ballot for some.

If no candidate has a majority, then they will vote until someone does.  That is the process in place to reflect the will of the republican voters.

Yes, people forget (not people here) that we are a representative constitutional republic - not a democracy.  Of course, there's been an all-out effort for the last 40-60 years to re-write our origins and form of government.

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Re: Donald Trump Jr: Ted Cruz has to bribe delegates to win
« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2016, 03:38:24 pm »

Trumping the Left

The left calls Trump a fascist but uses fascist tactics against him.  Notice that Trump’s supporters do not reciprocate.  They make no concerted effort to interfere with or shut down Bernie’s events.  Hillary’s events of course need no interference as they are rare and sparsely attended.  Hacks are lazy I guess.  Shouting opponents down is a Freudian slip by the left that constitutes a confession of their essential intellectual bankruptcy.  As I demonstrated in my book, progressivism is not a rational system of thought.  Leftism is progressivism on steroids, an apt metaphor for emotional infantilism and rage masquerading as an ideology.

Trump spoke for about an hour giving his usual stump speech.  I was paying more attention to the crowd as I have heard the speech many times.  Except for the part about “New York values” where he looked at notes, he winged it and never stumbled.  This is in sharp contrast to professional politicians addicted to speech writers and teleprompters.  Love him or hate him, you have to admire the talent and the brains.  He has run circles around his opponents and outfoxed the most powerful forces in American life, all the while being outspent many times to one. 

The crowd loved his speech, however, near the end, the Monday blues took effect and the energy level declined.  Hating Mondays is not the natural state of man.  However, after experiencing what life in a peaceful, free, and prosperous society would be like over the weekend, it’s depressing to go back to work for the progressive, welfare-warfare corporate state that sucks half your wages away by taxes and inflation leaves you with little to show for it after half of lifetime of hard work.  So, yes, the folks got tired but Trump’s energetic finale revived them into yet another frenzy, whereupon Trump was mobbed like a rock star for autographs.

http://artvoice.com/2016/04/21/trumping-the-left/#.Vx4mNPkrJD8